If not Dooley - then who?

#26
#26
I have asked this same ? before. No one can give anyone else that would have been a remote possibility of landing. "Gruden" really? We had no chance of getting him. Its not like they weren't going after top tier coaches they just weren't getting any interest. I think a lot of your top tier coaches were intimidated by the job. I know we all want to think of it as being a premier job. Honestly its not. You have to recruit almost all your kids from out of state. You have 0 depth at any position. This was not a program that you were going to come into and start winning right away. Although us fans want to see immediate results its not going to happen. Why would you come to a program in shambles for barely anymore pay?

I think Dooley has put together a decent staff. If he is halfway decent with x's and o's then we could be a contender in a couple years. I think we were gonna be looking pretty rough this coming year anyway even under Kiffin. He was going to have to deal with most of the same issues that Dooley is. Was his staff better than what Dooley has put together? Who knows yet. I honestly dont think he was that good of a HC. His mouth constantly wrote checks his rear couldn't cash.
 
#30
#30
I wanted Brian Kelly when we hired Kiffin. This time, I wanted Randy Edsall.
That doesn't mean I'm against Dooley by any means, though.
 
#32
#32
SGMVols said:
Getting ready to win a multitude of championships on the west coast.
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Not sure about that one... They may walk through their conference and regular season, but won't walk through an top tier SEC team. They may PLAY for championships but I have my doubts about them winning a "multitude."
 
#34
#34
FlVolDoc said:
I read alot of folks don't think Dooley was the right guy for UT. I thought it would be interesting to get some opinions. If you think Dooley was NOT the right guy then tell the rest of us:
1) Why
2) Who would have been better
3) How would we have been able to get that guy
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Fulmer!!!:rock:
 
#35
#35
FlVolDoc said:
I read alot of folks don't think Dooley was the right guy for UT. I thought it would be interesting to get some opinions. If you think Dooley was NOT the right guy then tell the rest of us:
1) Why
2) Who would have been better
3) How would we have been able to get that guy
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1. He hasn't done anything to get remotely excited about, and has a piss poor record at an extremely low level of competition. We see coaches with success at that level get murdered in the BCS leagues all the time. In case it's not clear, it's not that difficult to win there.
2. That we could have gotten this season? Not sure. Better to have an interim head coach and sacrifice the recruiting class, then go for a huge hire after that.
3. A lot of money.
 
#36
#36
tvolsfan said:
1. He hasn't done anything to get remotely excited about, and has a piss poor record at an extremely low level of competition. We see coaches with success at that level get murdered in the BCS leagues all the time. In case it's not clear, it's not that difficult to win there.
2. That we could have gotten this season? Not sure. Better to have an interim head coach and sacrifice the recruiting class, then go for a huge hire after that.
3. A lot of money.
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1. Ok Hat.
2. What college has ever done that?
3. How do you know?
 
#37
#37
After a few years of SEC seasoning, Dooley will be competitive with Florida and Bama--bank on it!
 
#38
#38
tvolsfan said:
1. He hasn't done anything to get remotely excited about, and has a piss poor record at an extremely low level of competition. We see coaches with success at that level get murdered in the BCS leagues all the time. In case it's not clear, it's not that difficult to win there.
2. That we could have gotten this season? Not sure. Better to have an interim head coach and sacrifice the recruiting class, then go for a huge hire after that.
3. A lot of money.
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Um...really
1. Easy to win at La Tech, you must be out of your freaking mind.
2. No its not better to sacrifice a recruiting class. Instead of being set back potentially two years with a new coach, sacrificing a recruiting class will kill you for about 5. If you doubt, look at what happened to Bama in just losing a bunch of scholarships. They were irrelevant for a decade.

You guys are killing me. Either be a fan and support your coach, or support another team. You wanted Fulmer fired, you wanted someone young and brash so we got Kiffin (who by the way hadn't won on any level as a HC either), he burned us, now we have Dooley. DD is quiet and goes about his business and come this fall we will see what kind of coach he is. You Dooley haters probably are the same people that were hating on Pearl until we made the Elite 8.
 
#39
#39
tvolsfan said:
1. He hasn't done anything to get remotely excited about, and has a piss poor record at an extremely low level of competition. We see coaches with success at that level get murdered in the BCS leagues all the time. In case it's not clear, it's not that difficult to win there.
2. That we could have gotten this season? Not sure. Better to have an interim head coach and sacrifice the recruiting class, then go for a huge hire after that.
3. A lot of money.
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If we sacrificed the recruiting class this season, a lot of additional misery would have been heaped on the current situation. We actually have 2 top 10 classes now back to back. Any big name coach who would ever come in here would want to see that he would at least have a shot at turning it around within a couple of years.
 
#40
#40
tvolsfan said:
He's done very little for anyone to be excited about.
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Maybe you just need to hold your horses. Chizik had a lowsy record before going to Auburn, and he did well with his first season. Dooley somehow salvaged a good recruiting class in light of the disaster we were in, and he's not embarrassed us yet like CLK had done a dozen times by May of 2009. Seriously, just chill and give the guy a chance to blow it before you get all pessimistic. He's the head football coach at Tennessee. As of right now, he's undefeated. That means I'm behind him 100%!
 
#41
#41
ORANGE & WHITE said:
Not sure about that one... They may walk through their conference and regular season, but won't walk through an top tier SEC team. They may PLAY for championships but I have my doubts about them winning a "multitude."
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I didn't say national titles, although I bet they'll win at least one of those as well.
 
#43
#43
SGMVols said:
I didn't say national titles, although I bet they'll win at least one of those as well.
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Oh, ok. Gotcha, that wasn't clear. They will probably win their conference 8 times in the next decade. Sure. But I could give a rats arse who wins the Pac 10.
 
#45
#45
ORANGE & WHITE said:
Oh, ok. Gotcha, that wasn't clear. They will probably win their conference 8 times in the next decade. Sure. But I could give a rats arse who wins the Pac 10.
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Me, either. I'm afraid Wayne has been hitting the weed again. He seems to have this mind-altered view of the greatness of a coach that has a barely-above-.500 college record and sub-.500 pro record.
 
#47
#47
FlVolDoc said:
I read alot of folks don't think Dooley was the right guy for UT. I thought it would be interesting to get some opinions. If you think Dooley was NOT the right guy then tell the rest of us:
1) Why
2) Who would have been better
3) How would we have been able to get that guy
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1) 17-20
2) Mike Leach, Guz Malzahn, etc.
3) Offer them the job
 
#49
#49
SpringBokVol said:
I still wish Kiffin was here.
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I definitely believe Kiffin would have won here in time, but he would also be lucky to win 6 games this coming season. The schedule is brutal, and we would still be lacking depth at key positions. Also, I'm not convinced that we would not have ended up on probation at some point with him and O here. I think they definitely do some shady recruiting.
 
#50
#50
EZE said:
Me, either. I'm afraid Wayne has been hitting the weed again. He seems to have this mind-altered view of the greatness of a coach that has a barely-above-.500 college record and sub-.500 pro record.
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No joke. This BS kills me. Reality check folks. KIFFIN HASN"T WON ANYTHING. PERIOD. He was and still is as unproven as CDD.
 
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