If it doesn't generate revenue, cut it

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Tenn_Vol_Authority

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I'm a firm believer in the free market/capitalist system. That's why I believe that we should do away with all non-revenue producing sports. Soccer, tiddly winks, softball... whatver. Football scholarships shouldn't be included in Title IX calculations, either. The NCAA needs to change this restriction.
 
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I'm a firm believer in the free market/capitalist system. That's why I believe that we should do away with all non-revenue producing sports. Soccer, tiddly winks, softball... whatver. Football scholarships shouldn't be included in Title IX calculations, either. The NCAA needs to change this restriction.

:popcorn:
 
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Here, if you'll take this end of the rope for me, I'd appreciate your PUSHING it across this parking lot. Call me when you're finished.
 
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I'm a firm believer in the free market/capitalist system. That's why I believe that we should do away with all non-revenue producing sports. Soccer, tiddly winks, softball... whatver. Football scholarships shouldn't be included in Title IX calculations, either. The NCAA needs to change this restriction.

Who would the Lady Vols basketball team play other than UCONN, Duke and North Carolina? Those are probably the only other women's hoops teams that make any money.
 
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The day is rapidly approaching when many schools are just going to dump football due to title 9.
 
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As if the mission of the athletic department is to turn a profit?


Well, that may not be the "printed" mission, but.....

Consider that almost everyone agrees that the only real obstacle to a Division I-A playoff system is the truckloads of money that the current bowl system generates for the schools.

Consider the NCAA-sponsored mass marketing of NCAA football, March Madness, Women's BB tourney, the College World Series, etc.

Consider the money spent on upgrading athletic facilities, sometimes over academic facilities, with the goal of drawing better athletes, which leads to a better program, which leads to more fans, more exposure, bowl games, and....presumably...more money.

I could be wrong, but it would seem to me that every athletic department would WANT to be profitable. More profit = the ability to field what is commonly known as "non revenue sports", such as the ones TVA mentioned.

As for those non-revenue sports, my vote would be that if the conference you're in has a "league schedule" for that sport, and you have enough athletes, and enough money, field the team. As for associated scholarships, that mess belongs squarely in the lap of the NCAA. Like most everything else they get involved in, it's a wreck. Make 'em fix it. Line up enough AD's at the NCAA doorstep, and watch things happen.

No, I've never been to a UT swim meet, or rugby match, or soccer match...but I'll bet we've graduated some fine alums who participated in those sports.

Hell, back in my day, I was quite the "FrisBeer" player. (And what I would have given for a scholarship to UT for that sport)

Go Vols.
 
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What is there mission?

Call me old-fashioned, but the mission of the athletic department should be the same as the mission of the university as a whole -- to educate and develop young men and women into functioning, productive, and thoughtful members of society. Bills have to be paid, yes, but that's a means to an end, not an end in itself.

I'm not the biggest advocate of Title IX; I would have preferred to see something that didn't require a lot of schools to drop football in order to comply with the rule. But I have no problem at all with the enormous revenue generated by the football program being shared out to other areas -- the University of Tennessee's purpose is NOT to develop football players for the NFL, nor even to win football games. A lot of people, including university officials, sometimes seem to lose sight of that.

Case in point -- when I was a freshman, UT had to scale back its library hours due to budget cuts. At the same time, the athletic department was spending millions constructing its indoor practice field. The argument at the time, of course, was that the athletic department's budget is completely separate. Considering how relatively little it would have cost to keep the library open for eight extra hours at night, though, it would have been nice if some of that vast football revenue could have been used to benefit the university as a whole. The university makes the football team possible, after all, not the other way around.

(Of course, the original poster probably feels that the library doesn't generate any revenue, so it should be cut, too.)
 
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Now I see you in a totally different light.

Assuming you meant to say easy and not "east" there..
I now have a fresher view of you as a poster.
By the way, got to "The Pub" and back to the thread of "Whats Up".. There is a response waiting for you there from me..:shades:

:pimp_2:
 
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Call me old-fashioned, but the mission of the athletic department should be the same as the mission of the university as a whole -- to educate and develop young men and women into functioning, productive, and thoughtful members of society. Bills have to be paid, yes, but that's a means to an end, not an end in itself.

:clapping: These kids are supposed to be ambassadors of our University. For the most part, they also do a good job at it.
 
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I think that is ridiculous. An athletic department's goal is not to create immense profits. It helps out everyone, athletes and non athletes, included. Other than supporting non-revenue making sports, it also provides thousands of dollars each year to general scholarships.

I don't see why, just because a sport doesn't make money, its participants do not deserve scholarships to study at the university.

Personally, I think you're a very uneducated individual who is simply trolling. On the whole, our athletic department makes money, which supporting non-revenue sports as well as gifts to the university for scholarships to non-athletes.

I tell you what...how about your job cuts out any kind of incentives. Health insurance doesn't make them money...why should they carry it? No more company picnics or incentives. No bonuses, either. They need to just save those profits.

Come on, man. Stop being an ******* just so people thing you're hard. I don't care if you don't like revenue making sports, but I happen to enjoy baseball, women's softball, soccer, and volleyball. I don't really watch the other sports, but that doesn't mean they don't deserve to compete and use what they've perfected for a lifetime to help them get an education.
 
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I think that is ridiculous. An athletic department's goal is not to create immense profits. It helps out everyone, athletes and non athletes, included. Other than supporting non-revenue making sports, it also provides thousands of dollars each year to general scholarships.

I don't see why, just because a sport doesn't make money, its participants do not deserve scholarships to study at the university.

Personally, I think you're a very uneducated individual who is simply trolling. On the whole, our athletic department makes money, which supporting non-revenue sports as well as gifts to the university for scholarships to non-athletes.

I tell you what...how about your job cuts out any kind of incentives. Health insurance doesn't make them money...why should they carry it? No more company picnics or incentives. No bonuses, either. They need to just save those profits.

Come on, man. Stop being an ******* just so people thing you're hard. I don't care if you don't like revenue making sports, but I happen to enjoy baseball, women's softball, soccer, and volleyball. I don't really watch the other sports, but that doesn't mean they don't deserve to compete and use what they've perfected for a lifetime to help them get an education.

Well said
 
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