If he hasn't already said it, He did now!!

#77
#77
I don't buy Dooley has to win specific games (FL or GA) but he must put a team on the field that competes for 60 solid minutes against the good teams in the SEC. Last year we were not able to do that. Eventually either the D or the O broke down and we crumbled, especially in the 2nd half. Once behind, we rarely if ever came back. We can't have another Kentucky type melt down, even if we get key injuries. If the team competes at a higher level, if we get a bowl game, and if we can claim one victory against a team we are not favored to beat, Dooley will stay.
 
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#79
#79
So Dooley didn't believe in his first two squads?

Interesting question.

I think he felt like he had 4 years of house money, no matter the results. I think he has taken a different approach since then.
 
#80
#80
So Dooley didn't believe in his first two squads?

I don't believe that is what he said. It is amazing what spin some people want to put on logical statement to make them appear to be illogical. The spin masters are at it again.
 
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#81
#81
I don't believe that is what he said. It is amazing what spin some people want to put on logical statement to make them appear to be illogical. The spin masters are at it again.
damn, you got all of that from a simple question? Who is spinning now?
 
#82
#82
I love how so many people think there's a line in the sand, and everybody is standing on one side or the other. And by gosh you better defend your side, regardless of what you sound like doing it.

Speak the truth, sister!

There isn't a level-headed Vol fan to be found that can't realize the hole our program was in after the departure of the Kiffin regime. The last few classes of the Fulmer years were either weak or fell apart, and our one-year affair with those dirty bastages put us in a very unenviable position.

I, for one, thought we were probably on about a 4-year rebuilding process, best case scenario. The back-to-back losing seasons and the loss to KY probably cost the fanbase a year of patience. Yes, there were injury problems that likely created that problem, but people are tired of hearing excuses (even if they are legitimate).

As I've said before, this year will be the "proving ground" for Dooley. Either, he has solidified a sound coaching staff and some talented recruiting classes, can raise his leadership to a level ready to compete in the SEC, wins a game or two against our rivals and finishes with a nice bowl win, or we flounder again and things take care of themselves (ala Dave Hart).

Either way, there is NO gain from bashing him further and blaming him for the circumstances left by the embarrassing few years prior. Let's get behind our team and hope that we have reason to celebrate over New Years.

If it doesn't happen, then we can cross that bridge.

I see another group,
One that can not understand why there is so much confidence that Dooley will be successful (and thats not winning 8 or 9 games after a 5-7 year, its winning and competing for championships).

He walked into a mess that was left by the 2 previous coaches couple with the AD. When Kiffin left it put UT in a difficult spot to find the HC needed to win and compete for championships in this league. It wasn't Dooleys fault that he was offered and accepted the job. So it has nothing to do with Dooley personally, and it shouldn't.
But to borrow a phrase/idea from coach Dooley that he used in regards to some of the players on last years team:

Being the head coach at the University of Tennessee doesn't mean your a good coach.

He may prove that at some point, so far thru his HC career he hasn't.
 
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#83
#83
Interesting question.

I think he felt like he had 4 years of house money, no matter the results. I think he has taken a different approach since then.

I think this past season, especially at the end, let him know he really was on the hot seat now. I do think this coming year is a make or break season and seems like he knows that too. Year 4 is not guaranteed, but not out of the question either.
 
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#84
I see another group,
One that can not understand why there is so much confidence that Dooley will be successful (and thats not winning 8 or 9 games after a 5-7 year, its winning and competing for championships).

He walked into a mess that was left by the 2 previous coaches couple with the AD. When Kiffin left it put UT in a difficult spot to find the HC needed to win and compete for championships in this league. It wasn't Dooleys fault that he was offered and accepted the job. So it has nothing to do with Dooley personally, and it shouldn't.
But to borrow a phrase/idea from coach Dooley that he used in regards to some of the players on last years team:

Being the head coach at the University of Tennessee doesn't mean your a good coach.

He may prove that at some point, so far thru his HC career he hasn't.


That's as true a statement as you can make. Dooley has not proven he's capable. I truly hope that he proves it next season, because I want the UT football team to return to where it belongs. I like coach Dooley; I really do. I want to be optimistic. I want him to be the coach for a long time. We have to win for that to happen.

I believe we are headed in the right direction, regardless of whether or not Dooley is the coach in 2013. If he isn't, then someone will at least inherit a roster that has talent, something that couldn't be said two years ago. I at least have to give the man some credit for that. But that talent means nothing if it doesn't produce results on the field. And results are something we haven't seen out of Tennessee in a while.

I'm so sick of hearing the fans of every other team in the SEC talk about how we're down and riding a sinking ship. I want to shut them up! The only way to do that is on the field. Please, coach Dooley. Bring us success in 2012. Every Vol fan is tired of being the SEC's punching bag.
 
#85
#85
negavols stfu losing to flordia and georgia would not be the end for dooley.get a f==king clue.If he losses to two teams that the vols are expected to win against his seat may get hot.

IF he loses to UGA and UF, he would need a miracle to save his job. He has to beat a rival this year. I think he can get it done against UF this year but if he can't beat any rival teams it is time to move on.
 
#86
#86
This was from the Pat Forde rivals article. I felt that the negavols need to see this.



I always felt that he was posting facts and not excuses. Either way its going to be viewed postive or negative.

BUT

For those that keep saying he will keep making excuses. I believe we atleast see that he is saying its time to play real football. He acknowledges that he needs to win or face the music as well.

Lets give him this year atleast and stay off his case so much.

for some of you... maybe not. :crazy:

just another excuse by doolittle putting it on the players. wonder what his excuses will be this year.
 
#87
#87
What makes me laugh is that the same people who feigned outrage at the nicknames given to Fulmer are now the same people applying derogatory monikers to Dooley.
 
#88
#88
IF he loses to UGA and UF, he would need a miracle to save his job. He has to beat a rival this year. I think he can get it done against UF this year but if he can't beat any rival teams it is time to move on.

There is no reason we should lose to UF this year. They have no identity on offense this year and lost a lot on both sides of the ball. I realize they are bringing in a lot of big name talent, but the thing a lot of people for get is how rare it is that a true freshman (or sophomore even) makes a large impact on a team. Obviously every year and team has its exceptions, but in this case I feel the loss of Demps and Rainey is too much. Tennessee 31 Florida 14. Book 'em Dan-O
 
#90
#90
I see another group,
One that can not understand why there is so much confidence that Dooley will be successful (and thats not winning 8 or 9 games after a 5-7 year, its winning and competing for championships).

He walked into a mess that was left by the 2 previous coaches couple with the AD. When Kiffin left it put UT in a difficult spot to find the HC needed to win and compete for championships in this league. It wasn't Dooleys fault that he was offered and accepted the job. So it has nothing to do with Dooley personally, and it shouldn't.
But to borrow a phrase/idea from coach Dooley that he used in regards to some of the players on last years team:

Being the head coach at the University of Tennessee doesn't mean your a good coach.

He may prove that at some point, so far thru his HC career he hasn't.

Truth
 
#91
#91
"Why doesn't he tell us anything?"

"He needs to shut up and win."

:eek:lol: Gotta love Vols fans.
 
#92
#92
Prior to the 2011 season, Dooley said that he wasn't going to use youth as an excuse... We all know how well he stuck by that

Youth was a reason... not an excuse. Only an absolute IDIOT would think that having as much youth as UT has had the last two years would not cost them games. It would not have been unreasonable to expect them to lose even more than one game that they should have won over that time.

It is difficult for me not to hope that some of you one day work for a boss who views you like you view Dooley:

You- "Boss, sorry I didn't complete my work but you see someone sent me a virus disguised as a contract so I spent the better part of the day trying to gather the data I needed."

Boss- "You moron. I don't care what happened. I have expectations. It is your job to meet them no matter what. I pay you for results NOT EXCUSES! Get your things. YOU'RE FIRED!"
 
#93
#93
"Why doesn't he tell us anything?"

"He needs to shut up and win."

:eek:lol: Gotta love Vols fans.

Not really. My "negative" impulse is this.

There is a considerable portion of this fanbase that does not deserve a winner. It would fully satisfy my sense of justice if they got to ride on the coachng carousel from now on... NEVER getting a winner. Becoming a perpetual "Vandy" just hoping to make a low level bowl each year. Always griping about the current coach and talking about greener grass. They DESERVE a Charlie Weis type of hire who draws a big salary then falls flat on his face. They DESERVE to continue in the same misery that they are intent on spreading now.
 
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#97
#97
There is a lot of truth to his statement....not excuses. Just play the what if game... if Hunter and Bray had stayed healthy we easily would have been 8-4. Check the results, we would have won against Kentucky, South Carolina, and at least one against either Florida or Georgia. With that scenario it is quite obvious our problem has been quality depth.

My advice is to get off the coaches back and pull for the Big Orange, if you really are a fan. The rebuilding project has been huge. We're just now starting to see over the hill.
 
#98
#98
Not really. My "negative" impulse is this.

There is a considerable portion of this fanbase that does not deserve a winner. It would fully satisfy my sense of justice if they got to ride on the coachng carousel from now on... NEVER getting a winner. Becoming a perpetual "Vandy" just hoping to make a low level bowl each year. Always griping about the current coach and talking about greener grass. They DESERVE a Charlie Weis type of hire who draws a big salary then falls flat on his face. They DESERVE to continue in the same misery that they are intent on spreading now.

You might want to take a break from VN...Looks like some of these numbnuts are starting to get to you.
 
#99
#99
Not really. My "negative" impulse is this.

There is a considerable portion of this fanbase that does not deserve a winner. It would fully satisfy my sense of justice if they got to ride on the coachng carousel from now on... NEVER getting a winner. Becoming a perpetual "Vandy" just hoping to make a low level bowl each year. Always griping about the current coach and talking about greener grass. They DESERVE a Charlie Weis type of hire who draws a big salary then falls flat on his face. They DESERVE to continue in the same misery that they are intent on spreading now.

I honestly can not disagree with this at all.

Guys are calling for right now as if its going to always be possible. I know that rebuilding takes time and it always lasts longer.

Anything that grows too fast will die just the same. Lets build a house on a solid foundation.

Everyone makes mistakes and he was put on a platform where none are given without harsh judgement.
 
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