If Fulmer were told to clean house

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Vols2TheWall

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Do you think he would just go ahead and resign at the end of the season and do what Cutcliffe did at Ole Miss because he doesnt have it in him to fire his best friends? I know Cut was fired and he chose that instead of firing his assistants. Or could you see Fulmer getting rid of Chavis and Cutcliffe and re-doing his whole staff? Or could you see Fulmer just ckeaning the defensive side of the house? God knows Slade should have been gone years ago.
 
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If Fulmer was told he could keep his job if he let go of everyone below him, they could kiss their job goodbye.
 
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I think he's gotta be leaning toward retirement. He showed the look of a man beaten at the end of the Bama game.
 
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They'll offer him a job within the administration of course. He's the kind of guy that could be President of the University one day. haha

I'm not sure if he'd fire all of his coaches or go out with them. That's a tough call. He's loyal, but he loves his job too.

It needs to end quietly and professionally for recruiting sake. Everyone knows the kind of atmosphere Fulmer has created and that's part of why he's so successful. He needs to remain a part of the school and/or team in some way.
 
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He could always find a seat on The Hall's Salvage Sports Report!
 
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Vols2TheWall said:
Do you think he would just go ahead and resign at the end of the season and do what Cutcliffe did at Ole Miss because he doesnt have it in him to fire his best friends? I know Cut was fired and he chose that instead of firing his assistants. Or could you see Fulmer getting rid of Chavis and Cutcliffe and re-doing his whole staff? Or could you see Fulmer just ckeaning the defensive side of the house? God knows Slade should have been gone years ago.
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"Bowden" - cleaned the house... same results...
 
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Offering Phil the opportunity to stay if he cleans house is not a good idea. Assuming he would do it, all we would have is a bitter hfc next year and probably a bunch of former assistants who feel betrayed running around doing tell-all interviews on every possible bit of scandalous informaiton they know of.
 
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i think if an offer like this were made, it would be a larger indictment on the AD and decision makers for refusing not to first acknowledge the larger probelm at hand.

making such an offer stinks of nothing more than a political move which requires no one to make a real decision. simply put, it puts the course of action on CPF himself to determine his fate, and that of his coaches, which would do nothing more than make him a modern day martyr, and make the AD look like a rube that wants to do nothing more than be able to deflect criticism.
 
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I seriously think Fulmer has lost his players and this program and cleaning house of the assistants would only delay the inevitable, if not make things much worse.
 
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Vols2TheWall said:
Do you think he would just go ahead and resign at the end of the season and do what Cutcliffe did at Ole Miss because he doesnt have it in him to fire his best friends? I know Cut was fired and he chose that instead of firing his assistants. Or could you see Fulmer getting rid of Chavis and Cutcliffe and re-doing his whole staff? Or could you see Fulmer just ckeaning the defensive side of the house? God knows Slade should have been gone years ago.
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Anyone who thinks CPF would do that has not ever paid attention to his MO. No matter what you think of him or his coaching ability he is loyal to a fault. That very well could be the reason he is in the spot he is in now.
 
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I think he retires at the end of the year. I know we all want new blood in there, but its going to be wierd not seeing the big guy on the sidelines, and you just have to wonder how will the new guy be
 
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I'll go one further on this topic and state that it would be unfair to retain a head coach while hamstringing his ability to perform the job the way he sees fit by denying him his choice of personnel. This is even more true in a situation where the decision maker(s) have not ever served as a head coach.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
I'll go one further on this topic and state that it would be unfair to retain a head coach while hamstringing his ability to perform the job the way he sees fit by denying him his choice of personnel. This is even more true in a situation where the decision maker(s) have not ever served as a head coach.
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which is why it would be deemed simply a political move only. it reeks of someone who is scared to make a decision.
 
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VolfanMike said:
but its going to be wierd not seeing the big guy on the sidelines
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No Doubt

He's the only coach I've known or associated with Tennessee. He's the only coach my daughters have known or associate with Tennessee, it's going to or will be a very WEIRD experience to not see him, almost sad.
 
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I think he'd do like Cut and resign. I don't think there's anyway he'd ever fire David or Chavis.
 
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He hired those guys. Why would the administration have any confidence in his ability to select their replacements?
 
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hatvol96 said:
He hired those guys. Why would the administration have any confidence in his ability to select their replacements?
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exactly. after the 2005 season one of the things that i firmly believed was that those changes he made would make or break him. if they worked, great for him, if not, there's no place else to hide. they were HIS decisions, HIS guys.

two years later, i don't see any good hiding spots anywhere.
 
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It would be a sad statement about the University of Tennessee if a former football coach became its president. It doesn't work like that in this day and age. I hope it never did.
 
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VolBeef88 said:
Anyone who thinks CPF would do that has not ever paid attention to his MO. No matter what you think of him or his coaching ability he is loyal to a fault. That very well could be the reason he is in the spot he is in now.
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I'm leaning more toward poor coaching.
 
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jakez4ut said:
exactly. after the 2005 season one of the things that i firmly believed was that those changes he made would make or break him. if they worked, great for him, if not, there's no place else to hide. they were HIS decisions, HIS guys.

two years later, i don't see any good hiding spots anywhere.
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I was hoping they would have gone outside the house and hired, gotten rid of everyone except Trooper on the offensive side of the ball, and gotten rid of Caldwell, Brooks, and Slade. Get some new blood. It always helps. New blood always has the best attitude.
 
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Vols2TheWall said:
Do you think he would just go ahead and resign at the end of the season and do what Cutcliffe did at Ole Miss because he doesnt have it in him to fire his best friends? I know Cut was fired and he chose that instead of firing his assistants. Or could you see Fulmer getting rid of Chavis and Cutcliffe and re-doing his whole staff? Or could you see Fulmer just ckeaning the defensive side of the house? God knows Slade should have been gone years ago.
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He is not Cutty, and he had no problem letting Sanders fall on the sword for him. He will save his hide by hook or crook...
 
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TennesseeT said:
I think he's gotta be leaning toward retirement. He showed the look of a man beaten at the end of the Bama game.
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He looked like a beaten man when Dave Neal was interviewing him before the game Saturday. He just didn't have any spark/fire in his eyes.
 
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