Ideas for Stadium

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#126
OrngeJuiceJones said:
I went out there. Its loud, it isn't top 4 in SEC.
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True and the “record” at dB at arrowhead is totally bogus piped in noise no way it’s 20 points higher than other recordings.
Neyland is acoustically loud but not as loud as it used to be in 1990. More chairbacks mean quieter people, so I’m only in favor of the modernization improvements, party decks, standing zones, and some limited chair back additions but the bleachers really are part of what makes it! If you want more comfort, stay home, you probably complain about people standing up too!
 
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HiltonHeadVol said:
So you don't feel our younger generation's attention span is any factor in this? Think again
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I think there are several problems. 1st off it's usually more like 4 hours. And several years ago they made the game shorter by going to a running playclock, yet now they've added so many commercials it's ridiculous. I saw something several years ago something to the effect of in football, you get like 15 minutes of actual game play. So 4 hours to watch 8 minutes of a game is not just about attention spans. Watch a HS football game, the quarters are 12 minutes instead of 15 but those games usually run about 2 hours.

Honestly a lot of times I don't watch the 1st half of a game (college or pro) because the commercials make it so long. And the 1st half really doesn't matter anyway. You can blow a 3 score lead in the 3rd quarter; you can come back from a 3 score deficit in the 3rd quarter. That's why if you want people to continue to come to Neyland once the current generation dies/retire their tickets, it has to be comfortable and more than just about the in-person experience.
 
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Boca Vol said:
I posed the question on here a while back if fans would be interested in doing something like the Yankees did when they built the New, New, Yankee Stadium back in 2009 which looks very similar to the old stadium but much more modern.

I agree about the $$$$ spent on the stadium recently. IMO, it doesn't make sense to sink hundreds if millions into a 100 year old stadium that is used fewer than 10 times per year. The reason these new Billion dollar stadiums "sort-of" make sense is they host events all the time. Games, concerts, Monster Rally's, etc.
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Yep that's my argument make it a multi use venue. New smokies stadium is doing the same. A nice modern venue that's capable of making money 10 to 12 months out of the year. Idk why colleges dont do this. They just sink money in old venues that are used 3 months out of the yr that are uncomfortable outdated
 
#129
#129
Brave Volunteer said:
I dont understand this "golden calf" of 100,000 seating capacity that so many think is so important. It's not relevant anymore folks. It's an arbitrary number that means absolutely nothing. Recruits could not care less. You think Clemson's recruiting is hurting due to their "paltry" 81,000 seat stadium? Or Georgia's "miniscule" 93,000? Oklahoma seats 86,000. Notre Dame only seats 77,000. Florida 88,000. All of which have far better programs than we do right now! I would much rather see us reduce seating capacity to make it a better GameDay experience than cling to some asinine bragging right that doesn't mean a hill of beans. Neyland would be every bit as loud at 85,000 as it is at 102,000.
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I've heard Neyland with 85k and no it wouldn't. Hell, half the time we're not that loud with 100k.
 
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#130
beachvol23 said:
True and the “record” at dB at arrowhead is totally bogus piped in noise no way it’s 20 points higher than other recordings.
Neyland is acoustically loud but not as loud as it used to be in 1990. More chairbacks mean quieter people, so I’m only in favor of the modernization improvements, party decks, standing zones, and some limited chair back additions but the bleachers really are part of what makes it! If you want more comfort, stay home, you probably complain about people standing up too!
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The noise record at Neyland was supposedly achieved in 2015.
 
#131
#131
Blimp restaurants attached to the top level. Two of them. One Orange, One White. The Vol Air Force.
After the game win or lose, they detach from the stadium and you float around Knoxville-drinking ,socializing and partying until the traffic dies down 🌅🧡
 
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#132
JohnnyJava said:
I like your ideas. I thought that selling burial plots under the field for cremated ashes would be a real money maker. What Vol fan would not want to resurrect inside Neyland? Plus imagine all of the spooky ghost stories you could invent to play tricks with opponents... my ideas are usually not very good.
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Sounds like a slight twist on the storyline from The Blind Side.
 
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#133
LittleVol said:
Blimp restaurants attached to the top level. Two of them. One Orange, One White. The Vol Air Force.
After the game win or lose, they detach from the stadium and you float around Knoxville-drinking ,socializing and partying until the traffic dies down 🌅🧡
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What happens when the wind pick ups and they crash like last year's Vols team playing Kentucky with JG at QB?
 
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Wireless1 said:
While the attention span of the teens, twenties and thirties might be a little shorter than those of us that’ll take a nap if things get boring, when we have teams that are playing at a highly competitive level and Neyland is rocking, you’ll have people of all ages lined up to get in. It’s like cocaine, if you’ve been there for a Florida or Alabama win......
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You've obviously been talking to some of us old geezers.
 
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vegasvolfan said:
Not sure if there is a thread for this but AD Danny White is looking for ideas...

Build the first pedestrian only lounge, shops, etc... bridge as an entrance from South Knoxville to the Stadium. Stretch it to the RiverWalk.it will have views of the river from above the River. Charge rent.

Create more enclosed seating that isn’t a skybox etc.

Create a Uboat biz like Uber and shuttle people via River to Neyland for a cost.
I can’t help but wonder if they could build more sky boxes that have panoramic views on all sides.
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I know this isn’t their stadium but I like the lounge idea for Neyland that is in here... I think we should get a casino architect to look at our ultimate future of Neyland stadium. Many of the ideas I have presented such as connecting the south side to a bridge concourse that connects South Knoxville to the south side of the stadium has to do with sustaining the cost whether we sell a lot of tickets or not which of course is still the goal, but if we do something to the stadium that it is connected to or that makes itself a destination spot outside of game day, it becomes much more of a revenue generator and attraction to Knoxville.

 
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rocky top buzz said:
I think there are several problems. 1st off it's usually more like 4 hours. And several years ago they made the game shorter by going to a running playclock, yet now they've added so many commercials it's ridiculous. I saw something several years ago something to the effect of in football, you get like 15 minutes of actual game play. So 4 hours to watch 8 minutes of a game is not just about attention spans. Watch a HS football game, the quarters are 12 minutes instead of 15 but those games usually run about 2 hours.

Honestly a lot of times I don't watch the 1st half of a game (college or pro) because the commercials make it so long. And the 1st half really doesn't matter anyway. You can blow a 3 score lead in the 3rd quarter; you can come back from a 3 score deficit in the 3rd quarter. That's why if you want people to continue to come to Neyland once the current generation dies/retire their tickets, it has to be comfortable and more than just about the in-person experience.
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Notice the severe drop in TV ratings for college games as well. Many items are viewed as possible answers to explain this.......competition from other sources of entertainment, too many games offered, loss of traditional rivals due to scheduling, etc. But one might consider the total slant in rules for offense and against defense as well. Loss of real kickoffs, seemingly arbitrary targeting rulings, among others are given as well. But to me, the attempt to make college (and perhaps pro) games into "video game format" with outlandish scoring encouraged by rule change (or interpretation) has made the game honestly less interesting to me. I openly admit that I'm approaching retirement age and likely don't represent cutting edge thinking, but I wonder if these scoring-fests we now see are somehow unhealthy for the game.
I remember telling my brothers that I wasn't at all sure how I felt about the read-option game taking over college football. And now here we are. What thoughts have you guys?
 
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beachvol23 said:
True and the “record” at dB at arrowhead is totally bogus piped in noise no way it’s 20 points higher than other recordings.
Neyland is acoustically loud but not as loud as it used to be in 1990. More chairbacks mean quieter people, so I’m only in favor of the modernization improvements, party decks, standing zones, and some limited chair back additions but the bleachers really are part of what makes it! If you want more comfort, stay home, you probably complain about people standing up too!
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Umm im one of the standing, i might be the loudest person on all of Volnation LOL
 
#142
#142
rocky top buzz said:
I think there are several problems. 1st off it's usually more like 4 hours. And several years ago they made the game shorter by going to a running playclock, yet now they've added so many commercials it's ridiculous. I saw something several years ago something to the effect of in football, you get like 15 minutes of actual game play. So 4 hours to watch 8 minutes of a game is not just about attention spans. Watch a HS football game, the quarters are 12 minutes instead of 15 but those games usually run about 2 hours.

Honestly a lot of times I don't watch the 1st half of a game (college or pro) because the commercials make it so long. And the 1st half really doesn't matter anyway. You can blow a 3 score lead in the 3rd quarter; you can come back from a 3 score deficit in the 3rd quarter. That's why if you want people to continue to come to Neyland once the current generation dies/retire their tickets, it has to be comfortable and more than just about the in-person experience.
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The average game last 3 hours and 12 minutes with the ball in play for an average of 11 minutes.
I know, I googled it.😎
GBO!!
 
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HiltonHeadVol said:
Notice the severe drop in TV ratings for college games as well. Many items are viewed as possible answers to explain this.......competition from other sources of entertainment, too many games offered, loss of traditional rivals due to scheduling, etc. But one might consider the total slant in rules for offense and against defense as well. Loss of real kickoffs, seemingly arbitrary targeting rulings, among others are given as well. But to me, the attempt to make college (and perhaps pro) games into "video game format" with outlandish scoring encouraged by rule change (or interpretation) has made the game honestly less interesting to me. I openly admit that I'm approaching retirement age and likely don't represent cutting edge thinking, but I wonder if these scoring-fests we now see are somehow unhealthy for the game.
I remember telling my brothers that I wasn't at all sure how I felt about the read-option game taking over college football. And now here we are. What thoughts have you guys?
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add in theSAME teams going to the playoffs every year.
collegefans don’t want to see that.
 
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#147
HiltonHeadVol said:
Notice the severe drop in TV ratings for college games as well. Many items are viewed as possible answers to explain this.......competition from other sources of entertainment, too many games offered, loss of traditional rivals due to scheduling, etc. But one might consider the total slant in rules for offense and against defense as well. Loss of real kickoffs, seemingly arbitrary targeting rulings, among others are given as well. But to me, the attempt to make college (and perhaps pro) games into "video game format" with outlandish scoring encouraged by rule change (or interpretation) has made the game honestly less interesting to me. I openly admit that I'm approaching retirement age and likely don't represent cutting edge thinking, but I wonder if these scoring-fests we now see are somehow unhealthy for the game.
I remember telling my brothers that I wasn't at all sure how I felt about the read-option game taking over college football. And now here we are. What thoughts have you guys?
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I’ll agree with some of this as well, but I don’t know if that really is affecting the ratings or crowds for games or not, but it does some of my enjoyment. I remember when a 31-28 game felt like a shoot out, but now shootouts seem to be in the 40s and 50s regularly.
But I think it truly is that there are so many more options now for entertainment and for activities especially for children and younger adults. If kids are involved in things like sports or other events, they can really book up most weekends all year long, and they also have literally all movies, tv shows, and video games at their fingertips. I grew up with 3 sports available, and 3 channels available. I followed my team and watched any other sports that were on tv when I could. Now I only watch my teams play, and I think a lot of kids have been growing up the same way so they’re less interested in watching and going to sporting events unless they really have a passion for it. I work with kids pretty often and even the ones that play sports or wear team merchandise, I’ll try to talk to them about their favorite team’s recent game and they’ll say they didn’t watch. We’re just in different times I think.
 
#149
#149
turnuptheVOLtage said:
Y’all seem like the boring type at parties. I enjoy the college feel of bleachers. Do not reduce the size of Neyland...
Of course it’s not as fun when you score 14 points per game and get destroyed by Kentucky at home.
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They will kill the atmosphere. I’d be depressed if they did this to Neyland. If they had their way they’d turn it into a soulless pro stadium. Luckily I don’t think it makes financial sense to do this. We will easily pack the place when we put a decent product on the field. If you want suites take off the roof on the north upper deck and put sky boxes there. Better yet leave my stadium alone. Unless you want to put VOLS back on the scoreboard
 
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#150
Pride85 said:
From a long time VOL and a person who has spent many games in that stadium, I completely disagree with your stance. WHY on earth would you take away the true meaning of home field advantage once we get back to a school that can fill a stadium on any given Saturday. The roar of 100,000 people is terrifying for players coming in to our stadium when it is in full throat!
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There’s nothing like Neyland when it’s full and angry. I’m shocked how soft some of our fans have gotten
 
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