I thought OU would be the second best team...

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MurphyVol said:
They also had the long pass play called back for off interference. Would have been first and goal around the 5.
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Correct. Tulsa has shot themselves in foot. I was hoping that OU could use this game to shore up deficiencies in the O, and for the most part they have. Now the D is doing the Jeckyll/Hyde that we have been acustomed to seeing.
 
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BudBarry said:
I sit here looking at Tulsa's scoring drives

4 plays, 80 yds, :50 sec
10 plays 79 yds, 2:46
1 play, 43 yds, :12 sec
11 plays, 93 yds, 3:59
12 plays, 69 yds, 3:59
One FG blocked

I would venture to say that Montgomery is going in, guns blazing to win. OU has it by 2 TD's at the moment with little over 2 min remaining in 4th. O/U for this game was 71 I believe.
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With the exception of Butch Jones what coach doesnt come in guns blazzin to win a football game?
 
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#54
In all honesty, BudBarry, a dropoff in defensive intensity is not uncommon in the aftermath of a big win. Regardless of personnel or scheme, a Tulsa simply doesn't command the same respect from Oklahoma that a Tennessee does, just as a Bowling Green doesn't automatically command the same respect from Tennessee that an Oklahoma does.

For all of our grievances about playcalling, the Tennessee-Oklahoma game, particularly in regulation time, was an old-fashioned field-position, defensive slugfest. Or about as close to it as you will find in this wide-open era of slide-rule football.
 
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Volosaurus rex said:
In all honesty, BudBarry, a dropoff in defensive intensity is not uncommon in the aftermath of a big win. Regardless of personnel or scheme, a Tulsa simply doesn't command the same respect from Oklahoma that a Tennessee does, just as a Bowling Green doesn't automatically command the same respect from Tennessee that an Oklahoma does.

For all of our grievances about playcalling, the Tennessee-Oklahoma game, particularly in regulation time, was an old-fashioned field-position, defensive slugfest. Or about as close to it as you will find in this wide-open era of slide-rule football.
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Oh, I'm not disagreeing with you at all. Here's the thing that many people don't see or look at when two teams like Tulsa and OU play. This was going to be a slug-fest between 2 OFFENSE's, not Defenses. OU and the Big 12 are conditioned to score as much as you can, limit the other O while on D. Tulsa has a tradition of playing in the same kind of conferences (MV, Mountain West, CUSA, etc) where O's were built to outgun the other opponent. OU-Tulsa series has now concluded with this game. They have been playing for the past few years with H/H series. I can remember when Tulsa didn't have the talent that Okie State had (it was a big in-state rivalry that played out for many years) but yet Tulsa always seemed to find an upset or two with them. Same with Tulsa-ARK series that went on for several years.

It's all strategy, philosophy and what each coach wants to do on O and D within their perspective conf which sometimes dictates the ebb and flow of a game.
 
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vol24/7/365 said:
I think butch came out with guns blazing. Just didn't have the ammunition to last.
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Debatable. At least IMHO. As I said in another thread, it's common for fans to look at another game between a common foe (Tulsa/Sooners) and take away "what ifs".

I think TN had more than enough ammo on the O side of the ball to take it. Just don't understand how it didn't take advantage. Just saying.
 
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They didn't take advantage because the coaches don't trust Dobbs to throw to the middle of the field. Although in my personal opinion those are the throws he makes best.
 
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Voltopia said:
Tulsa's offense averaged about 420 yards a game last year and was primarily a passing offense. Oklahoma never showed that they could handle a passing attack -- they just showed they could outpressure UT before we could make pass plays. Tulsa's OL was ranked in the top 25 last year (they didn't give up a lot of bad plays, basically) and is built out of seniors and juniors with experience, so I imagine they're handling what OU is trying to send at them and forcing them to play honest with coverage. Eh. Just different teams at different places.
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Good points
 
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We lost the only two experienced, veteran OL we had on the starting line in practice this week to injury for this game and our starting CB (Jordan Thomas) was suspended for the 2nd time in three weeks and is being removed from the team. His backups were two true freshmen and they got absolutely abused by Tulsa's WRs.
 
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Voltopia said:
Tulsa's offense averaged about 420 yards a game last year and was primarily a passing offense. Oklahoma never showed that they could handle a passing attack -- they just showed they could outpressure UT before we could make pass plays. Tulsa's OL was ranked in the top 25 last year (they didn't give up a lot of bad plays, basically) and is built out of seniors and juniors with experience, so I imagine they're handling what OU is trying to send at them and forcing them to play honest with coverage. Eh. Just different teams at different places.
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Dang. This is a really good post. Thanks.
 
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vol445 said:
We beat ok if we played them again
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Uh...Tennessee HAD a chance just last week, ya know...

And LOST! Nothing happened in the last 7 days to justify your statement...

Beating up on an FCS school doesn't equate to improvement.
 
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#71
if we play like we are on offense, and i know we lit up an fcs team, but we are in trouble.
 
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I have not seen it mentioned but OU fumbled twice inside TU 's red zone in the 2nd qtr and had they kept the ball on both occasions it would have been over at the half. Having said that we simply struggle vs the Baylor scheme.
 
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aaronvol said:
we played this year. Then they played Tulsa. Ouch. Is this a sign of things to come or just Tulsa catching an Oklahoma team after a huge win?
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I know Oklahoma is not a top 10 team, they are decent if we had lost the game to MIZZ like this the hangover effect would not last as long the name Oklahoma made the defeat worse than it was if we lost the same way to MIZZ we would have said growing pains and this team is still one of the youngest in College Football, i didnt know how young we were till tonight the starters we have lost have a major impact, we lost our best OL before the season and his backup and then last week Curt our 2nd or third best player on Defense and Danny gone 2 of 4 starters on the DL are gone and replace them with freshmen will have major growing pains going forward, people dont wont to hear this but we are still very YOUNG, this team is just not ready for prime time now Florida isnt prime time be pick em game at there place, we need to WIN THIS GAME BAD, more for the fans than the players, the fans will have a melt down if we lose, i am not getting my hopes up and i am keeping my mouth shut,but we need this game bad after what happen last week this will be the closest thing to a must win this early in a season than i every saw as a fan of 45 years, i dont know if the coaching staff can handle the pressure of the game or not and if they cant our team will pick up on it and be the same old story wait till next year.
 
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Guys... OU isn't a very good team. They shouldn't have even been in the game with us. We owned them until the end. If our offense had played remotely decently we would have one by 2+ scores.
 
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Hilarious that people think OU is a bad team. They're likely going to finish 10-2, with losses to TCU and Baylor.
 
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