I think we will regret this for a long time!

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Rasputin_Vol said:
Based off of what could we make that assumption?

We were 3 plays away from losing to USC, VAndy, and KY last season and finishing 6-6. If anything, since 2005, the trend has been to lose 6 games per season...

Edit: I misread this, are you saying SEC East "Championship"? Or SEC Championship?

Geez Louise... an Eastern division "championship"...
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footballref said:
But didn't...a Win is a win and a loss is a loss. At the end of the season, all that matter is the record. Not how we got there.

By your theory, I guess UT should have never won the NC.

against Syracuse...pass interference call on 4th down in the 4th quarter. This kept a drive alive to allow Jeff Hall FG.

Florida...they missed a FG. Had they made it, they could have won.

Arkansas...the fumble

We could go on and on with coulda, woulda, shoulda...the bottom line is what happened.

Last year UT played in Atlanta...that means they ended the SEC season better than any other team in the East.
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Hey Ref, this post is pure genius. I think you have hammered home Rasputin's point. Didn't we play against FSU's third string QB? What was his name Marcus Outzen or something?

I think we pretty much backed into that NC just like we backed into the SECCG last year.

A win is a win and we'll all take it, but it's not like we were the '95 Cornhuskers.
 
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#160
What about this angle?

I am 42. I remember college football seasons being 10 games long. Have a great year and you go to a bowl game and play 11.

Last year we were 10-4. That's .714, or 7-3 in the old days. Those used to be okay years for Auburn, SC, Arkansas, Georgia, Florida and LSU, and were stellar years for Vandy or Ole Miss.

Now a 10 win season (or winning 71.4% of your games) defines greatness???

I love Coach Fulmer and appreciate all he has done for the Vols. I hate how sad this whole thing is and wish it had ended differently. But... it is past time.

7-3 just doesn't get it and neither should 10-4.
 
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transammann said:
I am sure that after we lost to the Gators...there was many that rooted for Fulmer to fail!
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He was so good at it we might as well have rooted for him to lose. Look I don't believe for a minute that people wanted Phil to fail because that was wanting the team to fail. It is just that when he started to fail, people wanted him gone, and rightfully so.
 
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volfanecs said:
Trying the same thing over and over expecting a different result?

150+
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WE HAVE FREAKING 4 WINS THIS YEAR!!!!! Get the F over it. Fulmer cost himself this job! He simply ain't getting it done. All your idiotic argument about "150+" proves is that at some point he was winning. Not any more.
 
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VolMax said:
Hey Ref, this post is pure genius. I think you have hammered home Rasputin's point. Didn't we play against FSU's third string QB? What was his name Marcus Outzen or something?

I think we pretty much backed into that NC just like we backed into the SECCG last year.

A win is a win and we'll all take it, but it's not like we were the '95 Cornhuskers.
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Backed into a National Championship...that is funny. I guess all teams that win the NC "back" into it. Every season the eventual winner gets their share of breaks along the way.

You don't even want to give Fulmer credit for his Championship. I am sure everything is his fault now though.
 
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volmax said:
what about this angle?

I am 42. I remember college football seasons being 10 games long. Have a great year and you go to a bowl game and play 11.

Last year we were 10-4. That's .714, or 7-3 in the old days. Those used to be okay years for auburn, sc, arkansas, georgia, florida and lsu, and were stellar years for vandy or ole miss.

Now a 10 win season (or winning 71.4% of your games) defines greatness???

I love coach fulmer and appreciate all he has done for the vols. I hate how sad this whole thing is and wish it had ended differently. But... It is past time.

7-3 just doesn't get it and neither should 10-4.
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it's about time!
 
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#167
Give him 1 more year?

What decent OC would come here knowing it might possibly be a 1 year gig?

What recruits would come here (if CPF is their sole reason) knowing he might be gone after 1 year?

Could you see CPF beating Fla Bama Ga next year and a SEC ship next year?

...... 1 more year....1 more year....we can turn it around!!!
 
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cd12 said:
Give him 1 more year?

What decent OC would come here knowing it might possibly be a 1 year gig?

What recruits would come here (if CPF is their sole reason) knowing he might be gone after 1 year?

Could you see CPF beating Fla Bama Ga next year and a SEC ship next year?

...... 1 more year....1 more year....we can turn it around!!!
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That could all be solved by letting him stay another decade to work his magic. People these days all expect instant gratification.
 
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#171
I know alot of people who post on here are not old enough to remember Tennessee without fulmer. Its going to be ok, fulmer is not Tennessee Football. We all got over the loss of Johnny Majors, so will you get over losing fulmer.
 
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#172
Doyle Hargraves said:
Are you saying the left picture equals the right? I don't think so.
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Coach Fulmer's career compares favorably to the best coaches in the history of the NCAA. He's well respected everywhere but his home state, which is pretty pathetic of "Vol" fans if you ask me.

Colin Cowherd had a great segment awhile ago on this topic. He smacked Vol fans pretty hard the same way he smacked Penn State fans a couple of years ago. Worst part of it is, we deserved it. We're making a huge mistake that could likely set this program back for a decade or more.
 
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#173
dimera23 said:
Coach Fulmer's career compares favorably to the best coaches in the history of the NCAA. He's well respected everywhere but his home state, which is pretty pathetic of "Vol" fans if you ask me....
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.....especially Alabama. He is also loved in others because they know that they can look at their schedule and count on a "W".
 
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duckman398686 said:
2005 sucked, but i really tried to convince myself that it was just a fluke. almost every good coach has a scewy season every blue moon. but the fact that fulmer has continued to falter against the likes of meyer, miles, saban, etc is what has done it for me. the new guy has to be able to contend with the top tier coaches. and fulmer has definitely not been doing that.
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It isn't that Florida, LSU, Alabama and others have had better coaches than UT lately, they've just had better players for their respective systems.

Florida has been pulling top level horses for more than a decade. That's not going to change no matter who is walking the sidelines in Knoxville. LSU has been great in player evaluation and retention, though we're seeing the first signs of that fizzling given their offensive problems this year, especially at QB. Saban is on the rise at Alabama because of some very good recruiting classes and so is Richt at Georgia.

We pulled an underachieving class recently and lost some very good players to the NFL. We desperately needed this class to reload. Sadly, we're losing it because we foolishly dumped Fulmer.
 
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VolDad said:
.....especially Alabama. He is also loved in others because they know that they can look at their schedule and count on a "W".
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You're probably one of the guys who wanted to bench Manning because he struggled against Florida too aren't you?
 
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