I think we underestimate the time put into being a college football coach

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fade route said:
What's the point here OP? That we should give Dools some slack because doggonit, he works really hard? I'm pretty sure Dools knew what was required of him when he signed the contract. 8 wins next year minimum or bye bye Dooley famly....that's all.
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Guess how much time the average student athelete puts into football a day.
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tvols75 said:
This is not necessarily a Dooley thread, so please post the other drivel in one of the other threads.

When we think of a college football coach, we think of someone who is game planning and recruits. In that game planning, coaches study several years of tapes of the various places a coordinator or head coach has been. Also, on those tapes the coaches are looking for tendencies of the opposing team when they are faced with certain situations and also tendencies by certain players that may give away what is about to be ran.

Along with that, they have to constantly recruit in preparation for the future. What got me thinking about the time that is spent by the coaches was what the coaches did for Matt Rolin (a 2013 LB recruit). They had a film study with him where they broke down many aspects of his game tape, showed him different schemes, and then showed him how Sal liked us to use McClain. They spent 3.5 hours with him just in that film study, and I cannot imagine how long they took to prepare for just that one film study with a recruit. Then you consider they do that for numerous prospects.

When Rolin and the rest of the recruits go home, they will get numerous calls, e-mails, and letters from the coaches. That is just two aspects of a football coaches' life. Then you must consider that they have to somehow oversee the behavior, academics, etc... of the current football players and plan for their future (VFL, Dooley introducing the deal with the suit company for the football players, etc...). Makes you wonder how they have any time for their families when this process must occur daily.
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its a minimum 12 hour a day job and during the season (from AUgust practice through bowl games) is easily an 18 hour a day job.

just a couple examples:

first one has to do with recruiting trip in January:

Coach leaves Knoxville on Monday morning headed to San Diego on recruiting trip. Arrives late afternoon and makes visit to recruits high school. Leaves the high school and makes home visit with recruit and family that evening. Catches a flight out of SD and flies to Chicago. Arrives in Chicago about 3:00 AM. Goes to visit the recruits parent at the store owned by the parent. Parent not there yet so sits on stoop waiting for parent to show up. Visits with parent. Goes to high school to visit with recruit and coaching staff about mid morning. Leaves after lunch to fly into Iowa to visit third recruit on this trip. Makes appearance at high school and then visits with parents that evening in the home. Leaves Iowa headed home arrving around midnight. This trip included no hotel stays if you noticed.

second example is a coach going to watch recruits play in a Friday night game.

Leaves Knoxville early afternoon on Friday. Flies to Houston. Rents car and makes 2 hour drive to small town of recruit. Watches game and visits with high school coaches after game. Drives back to Houston and catches return flight to Knoxville arrving at 5:00. Leaves airport and heads right over to football complex to prep for that afternoons game.

These examples from early 2000's. Tennessee has never been an easy job for coaches. IMO, these examples are reasons some coaches won't hang around here a long time. No family life.. much easier coaching at Bama, Florida, LSU, Auburn, Georgia and many, many other places.
 
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LWSVOL said:
its a minimum 12 hour a day job and during the season (from AUgust practice through bowl games) is easily an 18 hour a day job.

just a couple examples:

first one has to do with recruiting trip in January:

Coach leaves Knoxville on Monday morning headed to San Diego on recruiting trip. Arrives late afternoon and makes visit to recruits high school. Leaves the high school and makes home visit with recruit and family that evening. Catches a flight out of SD and flies to Chicago. Arrives in Chicago about 3:00 AM. Goes to visit the recruits parent at the store owned by the parent. Parent not there yet so sits on stoop waiting for parent to show up. Visits with parent. Goes to high school to visit with recruit and coaching staff about mid morning. Leaves after lunch to fly into Iowa to visit third recruit on this trip. Makes appearance at high school and then visits with parents that evening in the home. Leaves Iowa headed home arrving around midnight. This trip included no hotel stays if you noticed.

second example is a coach going to watch recruits play in a Friday night game.

Leaves Knoxville early afternoon on Friday. Flies to Houston. Rents car and makes 2 hour drive to small town of recruit. Watches game and visits with high school coaches after game. Drives back to Houston and catches return flight to Knoxville arrving at 5:00. Leaves airport and heads right over to football complex to prep for that afternoons game.

These examples from early 2000's. Tennessee has never been an easy job for coaches. IMO, these examples are reasons some coaches won't hang around here a long [/B]time. No family life.. much easier coaching at Bama, Florida, LSU, Auburn, Georgia and many, many other places.
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Until we start winning!!!

I've always wondered the logistics when a coach goes to watch recruit's game on fri night then make it back for the game. :good!:
 
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smashmouth98 said:
Until we start winning!!!

I've always wondered the logistics when a coach goes to watch recruit's game on fri night then make it back for the game. :good!:
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I think Dooley has limited it a lot during the season. saves wear and tear on staff.
 
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I would agree. It takes a machine to travel, watch game, travel back, coach game all in about 24 hours. Unbelieveable if coaches DID do that frequently.
 
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tvols75 said:
In the NFL, you get a little bit of a break. There is no break in college football. In 2012, you better start forming relationship with 2014 and 2015 recruits and families. You add being a UT coach where you are lacking the resources at home, and I think you even have a tougher job (not an excuse for Dooley just realizing what all the UT coaches have had to work through over years).
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Actually Spurrier talked about the grind of the NFL being even more difficult than college. Either way both college and pro coaches put in extraordinary hours.
 
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tvols75 said:
This is not necessarily a Dooley thread, so please post the other drivel in one of the other threads.

When we think of a college football coach, we think of someone who is game planning and recruits. In that game planning, coaches study several years of tapes of the various places a coordinator or head coach has been. Also, on those tapes the coaches are looking for tendencies of the opposing team when they are faced with certain situations and also tendencies by certain players that may give away what is about to be ran.

Along with that, they have to constantly recruit in preparation for the future. What got me thinking about the time that is spent by the coaches was what the coaches did for Matt Rolin (a 2013 LB recruit). They had a film study with him where they broke down many aspects of his game tape, showed him different schemes, and then showed him how Sal liked us to use McClain. They spent 3.5 hours with him just in that film study, and I cannot imagine how long they took to prepare for just that one film study with a recruit. Then you consider they do that for numerous prospects.

When Rolin and the rest of the recruits go home, they will get numerous calls, e-mails, and letters from the coaches. That is just two aspects of a football coaches' life. Then you must consider that they have to somehow oversee the behavior, academics, etc... of the current football players and plan for their future (VFL, Dooley introducing the deal with the suit company for the football players, etc...). Makes you wonder how they have any time for their families when this process must occur daily.
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Weird that a fan of today even gives a ****. Normally we just expect them to win a title in 2 years and if they don't we just call them a no-good (insert gratuitous insult here) and run them out of town. I know they chose their profession, but it is still a heck of an undertaking, one way or the other. Especially at a BCS school. It is a wonder that every coach is not divorced. Great post my friend. :good!:.
 
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It's even tougher in the always tough SEC.

I wonder where the coaches find the time or the energy to make a baby, LOL!

VFL...GBO!!!
 
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Beware long post... :)

LWSVOL, thanks for some of the insight you gave on some of the time involved... I coached High School in the 90's and even at our level our hours were brutal.

Saturday- 8:00 a.m. to 2 p.m.
Sunday- 10:00 a.m. to 1:00 a.m.
Monday- Teach 7:50 to 1:50 Football 1:50 to 9:00
Tuesday- Teach 7:50 to 1:50 Football 1:50 to 9:00
Wednesday- Teach 7:50 to 1:50 Football 1:50 to 9:00
Thursday- Teach 7:50 to 1:50 Football 1:50 to 11:00
Friday- Teach 7:50 to 1:50 Football 1:50 to 12:00

Classroom 30 hours

Football 61 hours

Total roughly 91 hours a week during season


Below covers some of the football things that the time covered-

Saturday
- meet coach halfway point to exchange tape

- return to field house and start copies of exchange tapes

- help with treatments and finish cleaning up field house and laundry

- 2 full and 1 half practice field attention

- grade tape from the night before of your players offensive and defensive side of the ball


Sunday
-watch minimum 3 different games of next opponent and make a spreadsheet of every play which includes yardline, dd, hash, formation, play name, play type, to which player, direction, to/away from bench, yds gained.

-take spreadsheet and chart field pos plays as a top view

-create tendency charts

-players arrive for previous game tape review with coaches and receive their grades

-whole staff meets and reviews defensive game plan and offensive game plan

-staff creates scouting report and prints them usually around 20 pages for each player that we would put together

-meeting to cover the practice schedule for the next day


Monday
-half of the team to weight training the other half review scouting report/film study

-flip it

-on field practice

-treatments

-coaches meeting to review practice, plan the next day’s practice and watch more film


Tuesday
-on field practice

-scout report review/film study a different game

-treatments

-coaches meeting to review practice, plan the next day’s practice and watch more film


Wednesday
-half of the team to weight training the other half review scouting report/film study 3rd game

-flip it

-on field practice

-treatments

-2 full and 1 half practice field attention

-coaches meeting to review practice, plan the next day’s practice and watch more film


Thursday

-light field practice run thru game preps

-review scouting reports watch selected films with players

-prepare for JV game- which are always away

-JV game

-clean up field house after the game


Friday
-prepare for game- which everything has to be packed up since even our home stadium is about 5 miles away

-return, unpack, check on any injuries, start laundry

-start recording copies of the game for the swap in the morning and for other coaches to have for review
 
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What gets me is the heartless remarks made about CDD such as fade route made about "what's the point" I CDD doesn't win at least 8 games, he's gone! fired, no reason to even think. Doesn't matter that he has totally revamped the program and brought it out of the gutter so to speak, Continueing to harp, "CDD's on the hot seat regardles of what he did last week against (______(fill in the blank of the Team. Even if it was Bama! Someone doing things of this nature are the one's that undermine the program, and the fodder that opposing coaches use against up. Something as simple as showing a recruit something such as that statement about "it's 8 or he's gone" can be enough to turn a recruit against us and to one of our competitrs, and the idiots on here that do this need to find another team ot root for becuase they aren't true Vol fans! It's as simple as keeping your mout shut!
 
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tvols75 said:
This is not necessarily a Dooley thread, so please post the other drivel in one of the other threads.

When we think of a college football coach, we think of someone who is game planning and recruits. In that game planning, coaches study several years of tapes of the various places a coordinator or head coach has been. Also, on those tapes the coaches are looking for tendencies of the opposing team when they are faced with certain situations and also tendencies by certain players that may give away what is about to be ran.

Along with that, they have to constantly recruit in preparation for the future. What got me thinking about the time that is spent by the coaches was what the coaches did for Matt Rolin (a 2013 LB recruit). They had a film study with him where they broke down many aspects of his game tape, showed him different schemes, and then showed him how Sal liked us to use McClain. They spent 3.5 hours with him just in that film study, and I cannot imagine how long they took to prepare for just that one film study with a recruit. Then you consider they do that for numerous prospects.

When Rolin and the rest of the recruits go home, they will get numerous calls, e-mails, and letters from the coaches. That is just two aspects of a football coaches' life. Then you must consider that they have to somehow oversee the behavior, academics, etc... of the current football players and plan for their future (VFL, Dooley introducing the deal with the suit company for the football players, etc...). Makes you wonder how they have any time for their families when this process must occur daily.
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You forgot to mention how low paid they are too...
 
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I think the ever evolving recruiting game is what doomed fulmer. Richt, Meyer, and saban took it up a notch and fulmer just didn't have it in him to revamp his staff and dig deep again. Staying the course doesn't work so well once you've already been passed by the crowd. Say what u will about Dooley but I'd rather have him (a young healthy motivated guy) than what we had in fulmer
 
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A lot of people wouldn't consider coaching football work, more like a passion they have.
 
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As a coach I would read Volnation and recruit based off that...problem of time is now solved
 
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tvols75 said:
This is not necessarily a Dooley thread, so please post the other drivel in one of the other threads.

When we think of a college football coach, we think of someone who is game planning and recruits. In that game planning, coaches study several years of tapes of the various places a coordinator or head coach has been. Also, on those tapes the coaches are looking for tendencies of the opposing team when they are faced with certain situations and also tendencies by certain players that may give away what is about to be ran.

Along with that, they have to constantly recruit in preparation for the future. What got me thinking about the time that is spent by the coaches was what the coaches did for Matt Rolin (a 2013 LB recruit). They had a film study with him where they broke down many aspects of his game tape, showed him different schemes, and then showed him how Sal liked us to use McClain. They spent 3.5 hours with him just in that film study, and I cannot imagine how long they took to prepare for just that one film study with a recruit. Then you consider they do that for numerous prospects.

When Rolin and the rest of the recruits go home, they will get numerous calls, e-mails, and letters from the coaches. That is just two aspects of a football coaches' life. Then you must consider that they have to somehow oversee the behavior, academics, etc... of the current football players and plan for their future (VFL, Dooley introducing the deal with the suit company for the football players, etc...). Makes you wonder how they have any time for their families when this process must occur daily.
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Big bucks. That's why they get them. Know a lot of people putting in that much work and time on their jobs for $30K and less.
 
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tvols75 said:
This is not necessarily a Dooley thread, so please post the other drivel in one of the other threads.

When we think of a college football coach, we think of someone who is game planning and recruits. In that game planning, coaches study several years of tapes of the various places a coordinator or head coach has been. Also, on those tapes the coaches are looking for tendencies of the opposing team when they are faced with certain situations and also tendencies by certain players that may give away what is about to be ran.

Along with that, they have to constantly recruit in preparation for the future. What got me thinking about the time that is spent by the coaches was what the coaches did for Matt Rolin (a 2013 LB recruit). They had a film study with him where they broke down many aspects of his game tape, showed him different schemes, and then showed him how Sal liked us to use McClain. They spent 3.5 hours with him just in that film study, and I cannot imagine how long they took to prepare for just that one film study with a recruit. Then you consider they do that for numerous prospects.

When Rolin and the rest of the recruits go home, they will get numerous calls, e-mails, and letters from the coaches. That is just two aspects of a football coaches' life. Then you must consider that they have to somehow oversee the behavior, academics, etc... of the current football players and plan for their future (VFL, Dooley introducing the deal with the suit company for the football players, etc...). Makes you wonder how they have any time for their families when this process must occur daily.
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work like heck, watch the films
 
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