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I agree it’s a little out of hand. But if a school is making NIL deals without some stipulation of staying at that school in order to continue receiving payments, they’re doing it wrong.More or less. But, they can market themselves all the live long day wherever they happen to be.
I would be in favor of a system where someone accepts a 3 year contract from the University of Tennessee with whatever benefits that comes with and that player can't just jump ship in 5 seconds. That's just an example.
I haven't worked out all the details, but there's a reason the professional leagues don't have the entire labor market hit free agency all at once.
I think there’s a discussion to be had about the combination of unregulated money with an open transfer portal. The ability for college kids to leverage a new deal each year is new and IMO is the biggest problem with the current situation .Oh, it’s always existed, it was just hidden behind fake LLC’s and Mom and Dad’s name.
You can argue if players SHOULD be getting paid at all, but you can’t be mad about NIL just because what’s been happening since the first game college football game is legal now.
Sorry.
Ah the backhanded swipe at UT and what they're doing. All these "it just isn't the same" people just can't admit that it being out in the open evens the playing field. Not to mention their built in recruiting advantage takes a hit
I want to say at the outset that this is not a complaint about fairness. this isn't about winning or losing. This isn't about thinking that my school is now at an advantage or disadvantage.
I foresee a future where sometimes they're on top and sometimes they're not. And I'm ok with that. That's the way it's always been.
But, this NIL stuff. I surrender. The joy I had watching college football.....and I will still watch.....and I will still cheer......I'm not going to be one of those people who says they're through and you know damn well they're still watching. I'll be watching.
But, it's never going to be the same. And it sucks. It truly does.
It will not bring me the same level of joy it once did.
But, as you follow recruiting and the portal, it is utter madness. And one can say it's always been the case with recruits and money, but that's hogwash. It's never been close to this.
You've got portal numbers of anywhere from 10-20 players and recruiting classes of 20-25. Half the roster will be at the school for a year. You can't even get excited about recruiting because no one knows if the player is willing to wait two years to see the field.
It will never, ever be the same. Everyone will adapt because that's what you have to do to survive.
But, this isn't good.
The portal only concerns me for the ones who enter but then have nowhere to go. That needs to be addressed. Other than that they should have the same rights as coaches to move freely. They only have a 5yr window anywaysI agree about the NIL as $$$ exchanged hands yrs ago ( SMU, Miami, Ohio State, USC, etc). It’s in the open now but the portal does concern me.
The portal only concerns me for the ones who enter but then have nowhere to go. That needs to be addressed. Other than that they should have the same rights as coaches to move freely. They only have a 5yr window anyways
You'll really be done after we spank the gatas by 50 this year. . .I want to say at the outset that this is not a complaint about fairness. this isn't about winning or losing. This isn't about thinking that my school is now at an advantage or disadvantage.
I foresee a future where sometimes they're on top and sometimes they're not. And I'm ok with that. That's the way it's always been.
But, this NIL stuff. I surrender. The joy I had watching college football.....and I will still watch.....and I will still cheer......I'm not going to be one of those people who says they're through and you know damn well they're still watching. I'll be watching.
But, it's never going to be the same. And it sucks. It truly does.
It will not bring me the same level of joy it once did.
But, as you follow recruiting and the portal, it is utter madness. And one can say it's always been the case with recruits and money, but that's hogwash. It's never been close to this.
You've got portal numbers of anywhere from 10-20 players and recruiting classes of 20-25. Half the roster will be at the school for a year. You can't even get excited about recruiting because no one knows if the player is willing to wait two years to see the field.
It will never, ever be the same. Everyone will adapt because that's what you have to do to survive.
But, this isn't good.
I agree it’s a little out of hand. But if a school is making NIL deals without some stipulation of staying at that school in order to continue receiving payments, they’re doing it wrong.
The portal only concerns me for the ones who enter but then have nowhere to go. That needs to be addressed. Other than that they should have the same rights as coaches to move freely. They only have a 5yr window anyways
I've gone back and forth on this myself. I guess I keep coming back to the same question. If coaches can leave anytime for more money, or worse, use other offers to extort money from their current school, why shouldn't players having the same opportunity?
I agree, and think the portal stuff needs to be a "one time transfer" then go back to the old rules of sitting out a year. On NIL, though I don't like it, and ultimately think there will have to be some sort of guard rails, may actually start bringing some parity to what NCAA has refused to address. I mean, who really enjoys starting a college football season knowing it's going to be among 2-3 teams who end up winning it all...except for fans of those teams. JMO, but think having 4 playoff teams has allowed Bama, UGA, OK, OSU...maybe LSU and ND to build a separation from the rest of college football... if there were 8-12 teams, then that would bring in 16+ or so teams that could recruit towards the playoffs. Now, w/ NIL, teams like even Jackson State (Deon Sanders) can bring in top recruits that don't end up at Bama or UGA, etc.The bagman's always existed. An open market bidding war for free agents on one year contracts had not previously existed.
Sorry.
I think there’s a discussion to be had about the combination of unregulated money with an open transfer portal. The ability for college kids to leverage a new deal each year is new and IMO is the biggest problem with the current situation .
I agree it’s ridiculous. NIL is ridiculous, sketchy McDonalds bags full of money is ridiculous, paying coaches millions of dollars is ridiculous, not allowing players to transfer when coaches leave in the middle of the night is/was ridiculous.
The point is, it’s already been happening, you can’t just fake ignorance and pretend they’re playing because they love UT so much.
Back to the point of, its always been like this I disagree, not that it wasn't happening at all. The fire was under control and held in check simply by their ability to hide it. The McDonald's bags are one example. Paying coaches millions is what started the fire and it's been burning out of control ever since. Hey, in the middle of a wildfire someone decided to create the transfer portal! LOL! No stopping it now.
I have no problem with an athlete getting what he or she’s worth on the open market. I think theres a lot of $$ out there and they should have the opportunity to cash in. However, people (Jay Bilas) need to stop pretending that student athletes should be treated the same as every other student. They’re not the same . They live different lives, they get in to school under different circumstances than most students, it’s a completely different way to attend a school. They’re not the same as coaches either. If Pat Narduzzi is offered the USC job, he can accept it, but there’s going to be a large sum of $ that either Pat or someone from USC is going to have to pay Pitt to get him out of that contract. That doesn’t exist for the player. He can just up and leave without any sort of penalty. Like I said, by themselves the “NIL” or the portal can be a good thing, but combined I think they’re bad for the game.The only difference I see is that instead of a player going into his coaches office and saying the players mom would look really good in a new suburban and the coach from the other school is best friends with the owner of a car dealership, he can just take his money and buy his mom a new suburban if he wants.
Dumb example, but I think it gets my point across.
This is a sentiment which will be shared by many, and it is what the NCAA fought hard to protect against... not because they don't want athletes to be treated fairly and compensated for use of their names and likenesses, but because it will open the floodgates to abuses and randomly buying players away from rival teams. It will diminish the popularity of the product.I want to say at the outset that this is not a complaint about fairness. this isn't about winning or losing. This isn't about thinking that my school is now at an advantage or disadvantage.
I foresee a future where sometimes they're on top and sometimes they're not. And I'm ok with that. That's the way it's always been.
But, this NIL stuff. I surrender. The joy I had watching college football.....and I will still watch.....and I will still cheer......I'm not going to be one of those people who says they're through and you know damn well they're still watching. I'll be watching.
But, it's never going to be the same. And it sucks. It truly does.
It will not bring me the same level of joy it once did.
But, as you follow recruiting and the portal, it is utter madness. And one can say it's always been the case with recruits and money, but that's hogwash. It's never been close to this.
You've got portal numbers of anywhere from 10-20 players and recruiting classes of 20-25. Half the roster will be at the school for a year. You can't even get excited about recruiting because no one knows if the player is willing to wait two years to see the field.
It will never, ever be the same. Everyone will adapt because that's what you have to do to survive.
But, this isn't good.