I snagged this from Gatorcountry...

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and I'm a little ticked. It is written by one of their columnists. Why can't we get the magic back?

"In life, it is good to quit smoking. It is acceptable to quit at politics. And, yes, apparently even not so bad these days to quit at marriage. But among the things where quitting is frowned upon is in the heat of sports competition and in fox holes. Derek Baldry has been in both.

Baldry never saw anybody quit in Afghanistan, where he served two tours of duty as an Army Ranger. And until last Saturday, Baldry had never seen anybody quit on the football field until a player from Tennessee pulled a “no mas.” On the 49th point, the Vol defender waived the white flag.

‘I don’t want to rush this s--- anymore, I’m too f----g tired.” the unidentified player reportedly told Baldry about defending Florida’s extra point.

When the exhausted Vol begged off the contact in the fourth quarter, the Gator tight end couldn’t wait to run off the field and tell strength and conditioning coach Mickey Marotti.

It wasn’t about gloating or chiding the opponent. In Urban Meyer’s “Plan to Win,” the players begin pushing themselves in the off-season so they can be in tip-top shape. It is uppermost in their minds to win the fourth quarter --- and in doing so, finish off the opponent. They just don’t expect SEC players in big-time programs to give up.

Baldry, 25, is a 6-6, 269-pound walk-on senior from Gainesville High School and Santa Fe Community college who plays special teams as a blocker for field goals extra points. His story is one of courage and bravery and tenacity, carved out on the battlefields where he jumped out of planes and waded through ambushes with fellow Rangers.

Sometimes Baldry’s teammates didn’t survive. On one mission Baldry was heroic enough to be nominated for a Bronze star. He says this part was “overblown,” but he did decline the nomination because he felt he didn’t deserve it. Others on his team were wounded; he also said his commanding officer was new to combat and didn’t understand what it was like.

But it was there, in the hot, arid climate of this foreign soil, that Derek Baldry learned his first football moves.

“One of my really good friends over there (Jeff Meredith) was a huge LSU fan,” Baldry said. “So when we beat them in 2003 it was an awesome deal.”

In Afghanistan he began tossing a football around --- “we ran the red routes” --- with Meredith. In their training for the Rangers, they also sometimes emulated football-like conditioning. He had never played football before in his life, but his agility, size impressed friends so much they began encouraging him to try out for football one day.

He joined the Army before 9/11, arriving in Afghanistan Oct. 2001 and staying to January 2002. Then he returned on July 2003 and stayed through April of 2004. From there he returned home and finished community college in 18 months.

On Valentine’s Day 2006, he went out for the Gator team. Marotti told some of the coaches about his size and agility. They never really asked about his high school football experience until later, but Urban Meyer was impressed with his commitment to physical fitness. Finally, right before two-a-days practice in 2006, Baldry was awarded a scholarship. He soon learned that his conditioning and training as a Ranger was an asset.

Around the Florida locker rooms there are signs everywhere, pushing the athletes to the limit that he says “are competitive and almost comical.” Everywhere you turn there is another sign that says “4-6 seconds, go as hard as you can.”

The point is that “if you buy into it and work real hard, you can make guys quit if you try real hard,” said Baldry.

Right up to kickoff Saturday, Marotti was going around the locker room chanting, “you train for this s---. This is what we train for. They’re over their worrying about the heat.”

The heat, and the Gators, overwhelmed Phil Fulmer’s team.

Baldry was both amazed and elated that the enemy had been dominated morally, physically and on the scoreboard. This game of football is still relatively new to him, but having lived his life on the principles of his Army Ranger training, Baldry just expected his opponent to fight to the end.

As a Ranger, Baldry was taught never to give up. He couldn’t fathom somebody rolling over on his teammates. “This guy was just giving up,” said Baldry, almost aghast at the thought.

“The whole week leading up to it, we were told the best conditioned team, mentally and physically, is going to win the game. They harped on this day after today, for five or six days --- that preparation was everything and ‘we’re going to out-condition them.’ Coach Meyer brought up statistics of how Tennessee dominated us in the fourth quarter in previous games, but also provided examples of how we dominated the fourth quarter since he’s been coaching here.

“On the point-after attempt, after the 48th point, one of the guys rushing, I guess, decided he didn’t want to go too hard. Instead of shooting through the gap, which is where he would have come through me, he kind of ran into me and kind of pulled up and said ‘whoa, whoa, whoa’ as if I were going to deliver a hit to him. Verbatim he said, ‘I don’t want to rush this s--- anymore, I’m too f----g tired.’ That’s what he said.

“As he was saying ‘whoa, whoa, whoa,’ I thought the play had been whistle dead or a flag had been thrown or something. I didn’t understand what was going on. I kind of looked around real quick and I saw the refs with his arms up in the air, showing it was a good kick, and that’s when I tapped him on the head and ran off.”

Baldry isn’t sure of the player’s number, but believes it was a linebacker or safety. But when he came off the field, he couldn’t wait to tell Marotti and the other coaches and players what had transpired. Why?

“Because that was the culmination of everything we worked for. They had harped on us that we were the ones that decided when they quit and they didn’t have a choice. It was up to us when we were going to drive that stake home. Basically we did that. And to have it pan out was phenomenal.”

Marotti was pleased to hear Baldry’s news.

“We have a philosophy that the most invested and best-conditioned team wins the game,” said Florida’s strength and conditioning coach. “That investment has a lot to do with what happens in the off season. The way we prepare then translates into what happens during the course of a Saturday and our goal is to get stronger as the game goes on. When Derek came off the field and told me what happened, it was a credit to the approach our players take.”

Baldry said that the Gators “beat them down for four quarters and they just gave up.”

As they say in the Army, “Mission Accomplished.”
 
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You might want to read the rules on copy and pasting articles. If I am not mistaken it is a pay site as well.
 
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i have no reason to doubt the validity of that article.
...or the reported quote from the player in question..
 
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of course, no one has any reason to believe what anybody says another guy said on the field..

personally, i consider army rangers to be pretty straight shooters (no pun intended).. they have honor and integrity.. i just don't know why this guy would even make something like this up --- and indeed, i'm sure if somebody tivo'd the game (and hasn't deleted it yet) could probably go back and pick out who's who on that PAT... our guys certainly looked pretty worthless at the end, so in my world, that only lends more credence to what he said.

my 2 cents.
 
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of course, no one has any reason to believe what anybody says another guy said on the field..

personally, i consider army rangers to be pretty straight shooters (no pun intended).. they have honor and integrity.. i just don't know why this guy would even make something like this up --- and indeed, i'm sure if somebody tivo'd the game (and hasn't deleted it yet) could probably go back and pick out who's who on that PAT... our guys certainly looked pretty worthless at the end, so in my world, that only lends more credence to what he said.

my 2 cents.

what I don't understand is that we've always been a 4th quarter team. If there was one thing that UT has always had over UF, it was conditioning.
 
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Before you jump my case for what I am about to post read this- If that is, in fact true.

The only one you can place blame for that incident is the weak minded individual that gave up. How many times do you think our players have seen this:

Maxim #7. Carry the fight to our opponent and keep it there for 60 minutes.

No excuse for that individual, no excuse.

If I was the coach of this team I would go to the tape, find out who it was, get their side of the story. Then if I determined it was true I would take extreme action against that player.

Scratch that, I would run the entire team until they all puked, just to get the message across that we never give up at Tennessee.
 
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Before you jump my case for what I am about to post read this- If that is, in fact true.

The only one you can place blame for that incident is the weak minded individual that gave up. How many times do you think our players have seen this:

Maxim #7. Carry the fight to our opponent and keep it there for 60 minutes.

No excuse for that individual, no excuse.

If I was the coach of this team I would go to the tape, find out who it was, get their side of the story. Then if I determined it was true I would take extreme action against that player.

Scratch that, I would run the entire team until they all puked, just to get the message across that we never give up at Tennessee.


i like the way you think.
 
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Speaks volumes about how much phil's lip service is worth every year. Working like heck,getting tougher, got to get better at running the ball. Its all just hot air. I'am losing more respect for him by the minute. He has lost his team just about. The players aren't even giving 100% anymore. We should play all the freshmen now. Just replace all the bad attitude moma boys with guys who want to play and represent tennessee.
 
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Yeah wheres the working like HECK Phil???? If this is true it woundnt surprise me. UNREAL!
 
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Going back and looking at the film, you can't tell what # he wears, but he's on our defensive far right.

It basically just tells us that Florida players are conditioned better. Something the coaches should work on.
 
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Looking back at the Vols' losses the past several seasons, they've almost all been lost in the 4th quarter.
 
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This is probably the guy.
 
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If its true it wouldn't surprise me... easy to be demoralized when you're losing 49-20. No excuses obviously. But that kind of thing shouldn't happen on 2 levels, the first, our players should be in better condition, the second, that exhibits no mental toughness and lack of fight.

Man, its going to be a very long, very bad year.
 
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of course believe the UF player over one dressed in orange. The comments in this thread are unbelievable

Perhaps you missed my point PJ. I don't need a damn Gator to tell me we quit. I saw it with my own eyes.
 
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of course believe the UF player over one dressed in orange. The comments in this thread are unbelievable

I think his point is that regardless of whether or not its true, its still believable given the current state of the program. Its sad that comments like that aren't immediately laughed off. Its just indicative of what our program has deteriorated into... and the cynicism of so much of our fan base, including myself who used to be largely optimistic.
 
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No I got everyone's point but still think it's unbelievable. The subject of this thread was what a UT player said that came thru a coach that came from a player. Maybe they did quit but saying you believe it was said is insulting to the players. But I'm sure that won't slow you down any
 
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No I got everyone's point but still think it's unbelievable. The subject of this thread was what a UT player said that came thru a coach that came from a player. Maybe they did quit but saying you believe it was said is insulting to the players. But I'm sure that won't slow you down any

The hole in your argument is that a UT player hasn't spoken on the matter. There is a difference between saying "I believe" and "that is believable".
 
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No I got everyone's point but still think it's unbelievable. The subject of this thread was what a UT player said that came thru a coach that came from a player. Maybe they did quit but saying you believe it was said is insulting to the players. But I'm sure that won't slow you down any

I don't think any Vol fan is gonna take their anger or throw their insults at the players. I think we're just using it as another excuse to bash Fulmer and his coaching.:birgits_giggle:
 
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No I got everyone's point but still think it's unbelievable. The subject of this thread was what a UT player said that came thru a coach that came from a player. Maybe they did quit but saying you believe it was said is insulting to the players. But I'm sure that won't slow you down any
It's everyone's fault players,coaching all of it.The fact we got whooped by florida's freshmen and sophomores is what's more depressing. That and the fact they were laughing at us on the sidelines.
 

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