I really wanted Butch Jones to do well at TN.

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Boca Vol said:
I've never been a fan of Jones. He does a lot of "look over here...not over there" and has to go out of his way to discuss "successes". Not to mention he's just a cornball.
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In a lot of ways he's not too different from Dooley. Maybe cornball works better with a midwestern accent.
 
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He has done WELL. With the buyout and a great Financial Planer, he may not have to work again. I define that as doing well.
 
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I wanted Tennessee to do well.. that's it. Butch wasn't the guy.

I don't blame him for taking the job. If I were going to a small time company like he was and a giant company offered me a bunch of money to do a job that was over my head, I'd accept it as quickly as he did and try to keep it as long as possible.

I do blame him for all the results. Every single one is his fault. He's well paid and the head coach.


Eff him. He's done.
 
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Lack of player development and inability to adapt his system to fit the players....hard headed to a fault, and corny to boot....mid level coach at best:popcorn:
 
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samanderson said:
I wanted Kiffin to do well.
I wanted Dooley to do well.
I wanted Butch to do well.
I want the next coach to do well.

So WTF is new?
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This is me,I want whoever is the head coach to do well while they are here.
I was wrong wrong about Butch Jones so I'll take my crow well done with hot sauce just like I did with the others. The Florida game started losing my faith and it just snowballed from there. He did improve us some but I think this is as far as he can take us. I still hope they can win some games and I'll never pull for a loss.
 
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whobethis16 said:
Fulmer never called plays, neither did Cutcliffe. They turned out find. The promoting in and of itself was not the problem as you're making it out to be.
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Are you really trying to defend these three losers.

Fulmer and Cutcliffe had proven themselves to the head coaches that hired them by being on successful staffs for years. Any logical person can see there is no comparison here.
 
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Backwards K said:
Are you really trying to defend these three. Fulmer and
Cutcliffe had proven themselves to the head coaches that hired them by being on successful staffs for years. There is no comparison here.

You are dumber than you make yourself out to be.
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All I did is poke a hole in your simpleton comment. I'm not defending anything.
 
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whobethis16 said:
All I did is poke a hole in your simpleton comment. I'm not defending anything.
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Keep trying doofus. As usual, you type before you think.

If you can't see the difference between someone who has been on a winning staff for several years being promoted vs a grad asst and two other guys with no experience with UT and the positions they are in, you have no room to call any idea simple.
 
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DocVol said:
Good grief. The man has robbed over $15M from a state school and is about to be FIRED AND STEAL ANOTHER $9M in the process. I feel so terrible for him.

Gimme a break.
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He failed but didn't steal a cent.

He signed a contract that paid his salary and defined his buyout.

End of story.
 
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ice said:
I really did. I like him. The simple truth is he was given a great opportunity here but failed. It was his own fault. The buck stops with the HC.
I wish the best for him and his family but it is hard to feel sorry for someone making millions of dollars off UT.
Wish it would have turned out different.
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He’s become a multimillionaire, he’ll be just fine
 
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Backwards K said:
Keep trying doofus. As usual, you type before you think.

If you can't see the difference between someone who has been on a winning staff for several years being promoted vs a grad asst and two other guys with no experience with UT and the positions they are in, you have no room to call any idea simple.
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Larry Scott had 14 years as a position coach experience, plus a few games as the head honcho, before becoming OC. Fulmer had 15. Cutcliffe had 17. Not really all that different.
 
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sjt18 said:
I wanted him to do well also.

I was critical. Many didn't like that. But the patterns and trends within his decisions and small scale results is what has brought us to this point. He's had injury issues since the second year. The offensive scheme has been a problem from the start. Attrition and/or poor recruit selection has been a problem. Development is a problem.

None of the things being talked about now are new. Many if not most were evident by the Vandy loss of year 1 and certainly no later than the UF loss of year 3.
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#41
#41
I always want UT to succeed.
I think he's worked his butt off for UT.
And he's done a good job recruitin.
He goes 8-4 and I'd say roll the dice.
If he blows out the rest of the schedule and wins the bowl game big.
And keeps the Bama game respectable.
 
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