I really hope Jim Chaney was taking notes from MNF last night...

[VolNExile]

You will likely see results like this again one day when Tennessee discontinues it's SEC membership and accepts a bid to become the newest member of the Big East.

This staff and team is severely outmatched in all phases of the game against conference competition.

Oh gosh, that's right. We're always going to be understaffed and inexperienced. :crazy:

 

[utvolpj]

Well Vandy's running game is their only strength on Offense really... Their D is still my biggest concern.. Stacy has like 850 something rushing on the year.. By no means is he even comparable to AP though.. I still think if we can shut him down.. and do something halfway productive on offense against their D... Then we will come out WINNING!

he does have a good rushing total but it's pretty inflated against bad competition. His only 100yd game against a decent opponent is Ark.

USCjr: 18yd
bama: 4yd
UF: 49yd

 

[GmanTN]

You will likely see results like this again one day when Tennessee discontinues it's SEC membership and accepts a bid to become the newest member of the Big East.

This staff and team is severely outmatched in all phases of the game against conference competition.

Spoken like a true Vol for Life :crazy:

 

[tvols75]

You will likely see results like this again one day when Tennessee discontinues it's SEC membership and accepts a bid to become the newest member of the Big East.

This staff and team is severely outmatched in all phases of the game against conference competition.

Yeah ok.

 

[Vols4us]

Agree OP. Your mistake is you are trying to have an intelligent discussion.

The offense the Pack uses is similiar in scheme when we actually run what we started the year with. With Hunter out they went into a shell to protect something - what they want to protect I am not sure since they obviously have nothing left to protect. Instead of going wide open they first go conservative with Simms after Bray gets hurt and dumb down an offense that cannot run the ball. Now they have a rookie QB that they did not get ready until Simms proved he stunk trying to run an offense that was set up for Bray. No adjustments for the talent they are using at QB, WR, RB or O-line. I am amazed they make the money they make to be this dumb and embarrass the players, the university and fanbase.

On defense I am more inclined to accept the youth and inexperience excuses. When the best you have in several starting positions are true freshmen it is obvious that it will take time there. Painful now, beneficial later.

Special teams - we have one good player - a true freshman that many on here did not want them to take. Kind of like Blanc and Bullard this year. Which gives you some idea of how many think on here. Immediate help next season in an area of severe need. Future help on defense at safety - an area that certainly needs some assistance obviously.

Which goes to my point of CDD doing some really good things in recruiting. But there is much more to the job than being a CEO and recruiter. I am fine with Wilcox. I am not fine with offense at all and with the progress of special teams. If CDD doesn't change the offensive side right after the season I think he is gone in 1 or 2 more years. Which I do not want to see happen.

 

[BOBeLITE]

he does have a good rushing total but it's pretty inflated against bad competition. His only 100yd game against a decent opponent is Ark.

USCjr: 18yd
bama: 4yd
UF: 49yd

Yeah good point.. I still think he is their only spark on offense though...He shouldn't be that hard to stop though.. If our offense can get clicking halfway decent against their D.. Then I think we will be fine.. Also. We will have to score in the second half... lol

 

[tvols75]

Agree OP. Your mistake is you are trying to have an intelligent discussion.

The offense the Pack uses is similiar in scheme when we actually run what we started the year with. With Hunter out they went into a shell to protect something - what they want to protect I am not sure since they obviously have nothing left to protect. Instead of going wide open they first go conservative with Simms after Bray gets hurt and dumb down an offense that cannot run the ball. Now they have a rookie QB that they did not get ready until Simms proved he stunk trying to run an offense that was set up for Bray. No adjustments for the talent they are using at QB, WR, RB or O-line. I am amazed they make the money they make to be this dumb and embarrass the players, the university and fanbase.

On defense I am more inclined to accept the youth and inexperience excuses. When the best you have in several starting positions are true freshmen it is obvious that it will take time there. Painful now, beneficial later.

Special teams - we have one good player - a true freshman that many on here did not want them to take. Kind of like Blanc and Bullard this year. Which gives you some idea of how many think on here. Immediate help next season in an area of severe need. Future help on defense at safety - an area that certainly needs some assistance obviously.

Which goes to my point of CDD doing some really good things in recruiting. But there is much more to the job than being a CEO and recruiter. I am fine with Wilcox. I am not fine with offense at all and with the progress of special teams. If CDD doesn't change the offensive side right after the season I think he is gone in 1 or 2 more years. Which I do not want to see happen.

I stopped reading after you expected our offense to go "wide open" with Simms rather than be conservative.

 

[BOBeLITE]

Agree OP. Your mistake is you are trying to have an intelligent discussion.

The offense the Pack uses is similiar in scheme when we actually run what we started the year with. With Hunter out they went into a shell to protect something - what they want to protect I am not sure since they obviously have nothing left to protect. Instead of going wide open they first go conservative with Simms after Bray gets hurt and dumb down an offense that cannot run the ball. Now they have a rookie QB that they did not get ready until Simms proved he stunk trying to run an offense that was set up for Bray. No adjustments for the talent they are using at QB, WR, RB or O-line. I am amazed they make the money they make to be this dumb and embarrass the players, the university and fanbase.

On defense I am more inclined to accept the youth and inexperience excuses. When the best you have in several starting positions are true freshmen it is obvious that it will take time there. Painful now, beneficial later.

Special teams - we have one good player - a true freshman that many on here did not want them to take. Kind of like Blanc and Bullard this year. Which gives you some idea of how many think on here. Immediate help next season in an area of severe need. Future help on defense at safety - an area that certainly needs some assistance obviously.

Which goes to my point of CDD doing some really good things in recruiting. But there is much more to the job than being a CEO and recruiter. I am fine with Wilcox. I am not fine with offense at all and with the progress of special teams. If CDD doesn't change the offensive side right after the season I think he is gone in 1 or 2 more years. Which I do not want to see happen.

Thanks for actually making an intelligent comment anyways.. I did expect more out of Simms.. I think that after a few plays it was apparent that we would have to hold back with him at QB.. I just hope we can get back with Bray and get back to that almost unstoppable offense we saw in the first 2 weeks of the season.. I think GB clicking on all cylinders last night reminded me of what we saw at the first of the season..

 

[ETV]

Oh gosh, that's right. We're always going to be understaffed and inexperienced. :crazy:

University of Tennessee Athletics: Football

Let me know if you find inexperience here or a staff that is "understaffed".

 

[BOBeLITE]

You will likely see results like this again one day when Tennessee discontinues it's SEC membership and accepts a bid to become the newest member of the Big East.

This staff and team is severely outmatched in all phases of the game against conference competition.

First of all.. We will never be joining the Big East.. Yeah in a weaker conference we would look better and win more games.. But what does that matter if you really aren't that good of a team and can't win against top competition...

 

[papatomany]

Wow... people really have no sense on here anymore... Make one reference to the NFL and "NO NO NO that's Apples to Oranges" They have a lot of connections.. Yes the NFL is full of talent and College football doesn't always have the same.. But schematically they can do a lot of the same things... Hell GB was running out of the spread half of last night... We use the spread formation some... Why is that so wrong to compare??

Pearls before swine, bob.

 

[DC Vol]

Offense is a different beast with Bray in the game. Well, the team is a different beast with Bray in the game.

 

[ETV]

First of all.. We will never be joining the Big East.. Yeah in a weaker conference we would look better and win more games.. But what does that matter if you really aren't that good of a team and can't win against top competition...

Sarcasm was the point of the Big East conference affiliation. It wasn't meant to be taken serious as some other responses have said.

I was referencing the positive offensive production numbers against lesser competition and for this team to achieve that again in the near future may require a schedule slated against teams of that caliber so that we can obtain a bowl bid after the SEC schedule.

 

[BOBeLITE]

Sarcasm was the point of the Big East conference affiliation. It wasn't meant to be taken serious as some other responses have said.

I was referencing the positive offensive production numbers against lesser competition and for this team to achieve that again in the near future may require a schedule slated against teams of that caliber so that we can obtain a bowl bid after the SEC schedule.

Oh I see.. My bad had my sarcasm switch off...

 

[papatomany]

Incidentally, all you folks who keep saying we have no receivers aren't watching the same guys I'm watching. It probably just looks like we have no receivers because Zach keeps playing. (Anybody else see the potential TD hit him in the head?) Beyond Da'Rick... Arnett catches everything; Rivera is solid; Dallas showed what he can do by powering for a first on a short ball; Neal has big play skills; Young and even Poole catch well out of the backfield. There's enough there to throw the ball around.

 

[CiTiBoY]

Dare I say it? Looks like 'Johnny Ball' is back at UT..

 

[crusse10]

Packers ftw

 

[gnm53108]

Sarcasm was the point of the Big East conference affiliation. It wasn't meant to be taken serious as some other responses have said.

I was referencing the positive offensive production numbers against lesser competition and for this team to achieve that again in the near future may require a schedule slated against teams of that caliber so that we can obtain a bowl bid after the SEC schedule.

Sarcasm noted.

Do you not think that if we had the same personel that was in that cinci game that our numbers would have looked better?

Maybe even simular?

 

[BOBeLITE]

Incidentally, all you folks who keep saying we have no receivers aren't watching the same guys I'm watching. It probably just looks like we have no receivers because Zach keeps playing. (Anybody else see the potential TD hit him in the head?) Beyond Da'Rick... Arnett catches everything; Rivera is solid; Dallas showed what he can do by powering for a first on a short ball; Neal has big play skills; Young and even Poole catch well out of the backfield. There's enough there to throw the ball around.

Agreed.. I expect to see some good things out of these kids next year.. having hunter and DaRick back is going to be awesome.. Then having Dallas, Arnett, and Neal as well.. With any luck and an injury free season.. Our Offense could really show out next year..

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

Is OP serious?

You think that our OC is whats holding us back from playing like the Super Bowl champion Packers? Are you stupid?

 

[BOBeLITE]

Is OP serious?

You think that our OC is whats holding us back from playing like the Super Bowl champion Packers? Are you stupid?

Obviously you didn't read anything on the first 3 pages... Go back and check and maybe if you are smart enough you can understand my point. If not sorry. When did I ever say "that our OC is whats holding us back from playing like the Super Bowl champion Packers." I would like to know... To answer your question.. No I am not stupid. Are you?

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

Obviously you didn't read anything on the first 3 pages... Go back and check and maybe if you are smart enough you can understand my point. If not sorry. When did I ever say "that our OC is whats holding us back from playing like the Super Bowl champion Packers." I would like to know... To answer your question.. No I am not stupid. Are you?

No I didnt read the entire thread, dont have time for such things.

Just going off of your thread title and original post, it seems you think Jim Chaney should run our offense the same way the Packers run theirs, correct?

IMO, thats idiotic. The Packers are probably the most talented team in the world.

jmo

 

[ETV]

Sarcasm noted.

Do you not think that if we had the same personel that was in that cinci game that our numbers would have looked better?

Maybe even simular?

Possibly better but not similar.

The offense wasn't or shouldn't have been focused around one WR. I'm unsure if CJC had attempted that so I'm just speculating at this point.

Even with Bray, Rodgers, Poole and the OL that allowed Poole to rush for over 1k yards in '10, the offense never seemed to find an identity or any rhythm during the conference games.

 

[BOBeLITE]

No I didnt read the entire thread, dont have time for such things.

Just going off of your thread title and original post, it seems you think Jim Chaney should run our offense the same way the Packers run theirs, correct?

IMO, thats idiotic. The Packers are probably the most talented team in the world.

jmo

If you don't have time for such things, you probably shouldn't bother posting at all on Volnation.. I merely meant that GB was a fine tuned scoring machine last night... Our offense since the loss of Bray has been horrible... I don't literally think he should take notes on the GB offense.. I do think the offense we had in first 2 weeks shows some similarities between us and GB. They run a similar style offense.. I wish we could get back to being a top Offense in the nation again.. That is all.. Had you just read my previous post, you would of saved time rather than me explaining it to you all over again.. Please think before you post or call someone stupid.. Go Vols

 

[Ned Ray McWorkher]

God given athleticism and ability is a great thing to have. No doubt. But without a well structured practice regimen you will be hard pressed to show off your God given gifts. What I think you meant OP was that Green Bay is a well oiled machine. They appear to have studied the ART of offensive football. I would be hesitant to explain away Green Bay's success by saying they are merely talented. They are talented but you can clearly see (if you know what you are looking for) that they work like heck (pun intended) at what they are doing. Even Gruden tried to slurp Rodgers on the Countdown Bus before the game, but AR would have none of it! He calmly and clearly told him that we work on those same plays in practice. That is how you get good at something. You learn it, then practice it until you have mastered it. Talent and natural ability can be overrated. Or, better still, hard ****ing work and practice can be SEVERELY and GROSSLY underrated. I bet people think Peyton was "talented". Maybe, but he worked like hell to get where he is. So has Rodgers. So will we, if we expect to win again.
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