I love, love, love Heupel, BUT

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jeffreync said:
I really do think Heupel is an excellent coach, and I enjoy the hell out of the teams he's been putting out there. From an entertainment/fan perspective, as well as the type of humans it seems he's recruiting. Seems like a fun culture, and one that the fans can get behind. BUT, sometimes the stuff he does is mind boggling to me. And, the worst part of it is he always seems to double down on these decisions. I'm hoping it's just his way of answering a media question. I'm currently referring to the clock management at the end of the game Saturday. CLEARLY, that was a blunder. Now a lot of people will criticize the move to run the clock down initially to 45 seconds. I'm actually with Heup at this point. This was, in my opinion, the winningest time management strategy to deploy. (would gladly debate that as well) The blunder was not using the two timeouts. We could have easily got 2/3 more plays to get the yardage needed had we just called the timeouts when we should have. After the game, when asked, Heup just said something about well we already had the play called. Well that might have been your reasoning that led to a follied conclusion, but the lack of acknowledgment is bewildering sometimes to me. Hit me up Heupel if you need an onfield guy help you with some clock management! I'm cheap! The end of the first half was also botched imo.
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There's a thread for that...
 
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jp1 said:
2) While I agree that Boo is the more dynamic returner, Staley actually fielded the first punt of the season, and has been back there numerous times.
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He took the first punt of the season because Boo was still being punished. I'd hope that we are over that by now. Either commit to playing him or kick him off the team.

I would love to see Boo move to safety during the off week. That would be a step toward having our best 11 on the field at the same time.
 
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Big Orange Captain said:
Heup needs to shave and lose some weight. Look at him in college at OU and what he looks like now like a totally different person. Yea i get it people age significantly from 22 to 47 but he could tidy himself up a little bit.
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You know you sound like a girl who wants to date him. Or a nagging wife. Somewhere in that ball park.

You do you, brother.

Go Vols!
 
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PastorVolFan said:
Don't disagree...some definite head-scratcher decisions...

And...this one I'll admit is really petty...but geez, I kinda wish he cared more about his appearance on the sideline. The slobb-ish look seems to be getting worse the longer he's here. He looks like a Dad on vacation at the beach who decided not to shave for a week.
(Admittedly not the most important thing, but that job deserves a little more image effort, IMO)
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My goodness, nit picking by a Pastor. Go ahead cast that stone.
 
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Big Orange Captain said:
Appearance matters especially when you are in a high profile position like Heup is. Derek Dooley was a horrid coach but always looked like a million bucks i will give him that.
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maybe DD spent too much time working on his appearance instead of working on his coaching
 
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Below is a cut/paste from an article in the Daily Beacon where, in Heuple speak, he sorta kinda addresses the shot clock issue. I did not link the article as it longer and had other stuff in it besides this part.
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“We actually had the second play ready to go (after the Bishop 1st down run) with the time on the clock, whether it was right or wrong, but the two timeouts, being able to get it out quick and burn it,” Heupel said about preserving the timeout after Bishop's run.

“We had the second play ready to go,” Heupel said. “That’s why I didn’t use it there. With the time that it ended up, probably would have been right. Joey scrambles around on the play and burns the clock.”
 
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OrangeBeachVol said:
Below is a cut/paste from an article in the Daily Beacon where, in Heuple speak, he sorta kinda addresses the shot clock issue. I did not link the article as it longer and had other stuff in it besides this part.
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“We actually had the second play ready to go (after the Bishop 1st down run) with the time on the clock, whether it was right or wrong, but the two timeouts, being able to get it out quick and burn it,” Heupel said about preserving the timeout after Bishop's run.

“We had the second play ready to go,” Heupel said. “That’s why I didn’t use it there. With the time that it ended up, probably would have been right. Joey scrambles around on the play and burns the clock.”
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Still a crazy double down... We got the first down with 13-14 seconds left and 2 timeouts. We could have spiked the ball because there was no way we'd get 3 plays off in 14 seconds so save the timeouts.

We only needed 10-12 yards for FG attempt. There was just no real world scenario where we would needed 2 timeouts with 13 seconds left.
 
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Prayivm3rcy said:
I dont see where calling any timeouts would have saved time that Aguilar burned off by holding onto the ball for too long
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Yeah after Heuple's explanation and seeing the plays again I agree, Joey is one who didn't manage the time. Not blaming him as he was just trying to make a play but Hueple not entirely at fault here.
 
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CNCVol88 said:
I disagree. I don't think it was a blunder. I think it was a calculated decision and one that paid off.
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Imo a terrible blunder, should have tried to score in regulation, instead of letting too much time run off the clock and giving us a chance to score. I really like Hype and 100% support him as our hc, however, this was terrible clock management.
 
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OrangeBeachVol said:
Below is a cut/paste from an article in the Daily Beacon where, in Heuple speak, he sorta kinda addresses the shot clock issue. I did not link the article as it longer and had other stuff in it besides this part.
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“We actually had the second play ready to go (after the Bishop 1st down run) with the time on the clock, whether it was right or wrong, but the two timeouts, being able to get it out quick and burn it,” Heupel said about preserving the timeout after Bishop's run.

“We had the second play ready to go,” Heupel said. “That’s why I didn’t use it there. With the time that it ended up, probably would have been right. Joey scrambles around on the play and burns the clock.”
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What did Hype think Joey should have done, take a sack?
 
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jeffreync said:
I really do think Heupel is an excellent coach, and I enjoy the hell out of the teams he's been putting out there. From an entertainment/fan perspective, as well as the type of humans it seems he's recruiting. Seems like a fun culture, and one that the fans can get behind. BUT, sometimes the stuff he does is mind boggling to me. And, the worst part of it is he always seems to double down on these decisions. I'm hoping it's just his way of answering a media question. I'm currently referring to the clock management at the end of the game Saturday. CLEARLY, that was a blunder. Now a lot of people will criticize the move to run the clock down initially to 45 seconds. I'm actually with Heup at this point. This was, in my opinion, the winningest time management strategy to deploy. (would gladly debate that as well) The blunder was not using the two timeouts. We could have easily got 2/3 more plays to get the yardage needed had we just called the timeouts when we should have. After the game, when asked, Heup just said something about well we already had the play called. Well that might have been your reasoning that led to a follied conclusion, but the lack of acknowledgment is bewildering sometimes to me. Hit me up Heupel if you need an onfield guy help you with some clock management! I'm cheap! The end of the first half was also botched imo.
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Not all coaching works the way you want. When it works, you are golden. When it doesn't everyone notices. I was more perplexed with putting Staley back to field the first two punts on Saturday vs. Boo. I think it led to Staley having his worst day in a vols uniform. You could make the argument this decision alone set the tone for a close game with his fumble after a great opening D series and then after we kicked a FG to pull the score the 7-3 Staley let the next punt drop and roll to the 1 yard line . It was destined to be a close game after this and MS ST realizing they could run on us. If they were down 10-0 or 14-0 maybe the MS ST play calling is different and the game is never as close as it turned out to be.
 
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OrangeBeachVol said:
Yeah after Heuple's explanation and seeing the plays again I agree, Joey is one who didn't manage the time. Not blaming him as he was just trying to make a play but Hueple not entirely at fault here.
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I think we burnt too much time before that play just standing over the ball before hiking it that put us in that situation. I think we should've at least got closer to FG range before burning clock. We had seemed to be in rhythm before the time burn
 
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I agree with most of the comments about clock management. I was most puzzled/upset with the end of the first half. I think if you go back to the last play of regulation, when the team hurried back to the line instead of a timeout, I really believe CJH had a plan that would have worked. On that last play, Deshean Bishop sprinted to the sideline and was wide open. JA looked right at him and then made an odd decision and ran the ball up the middle making it impossible to stop the clock. Had he thrown and completed the pass to DB, he may have been able to pickup the 10 yards or so needed and then gotten out of bounds. That would have allowed enough time to kick a field goal. I don't believe the end of regulation was actually a mistake by our coach.
 
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Big Orange Captain said:
Appearance matters especially when you are in a high profile position like Heup is. Derek Dooley was a horrid coach but always looked like a million bucks i will give him that.
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Dooley: Clean shaven, well dressed, complete failure

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I can't believe anyone really used him as an example but here we are
 
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WeeohdeeWood said:
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How he looks on the sideline, press conference means nothing to me. Coach our team and find someone on the staff to help him with clock management at the end of the half and game. No way he should have kept the timeouts in his pocket at the end of regulation. In Josh we trust! Go Vols! The king of the rough look!
 
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TheVolsFrog said:
I think we burnt too much time before that play just standing over the ball before hiking it that put us in that situation. I think we should've at least got closer to FG range before burning clock. We had seemed to be in rhythm before the time burn
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Its subjective whether you think 45 secs was enough time to move the ball into fg range. I personally think if executed right 45 secs was enough time for our offense to move the ball and not give Miss st an chance to get the ball back.
 
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volfanhill said:
What if he was dead set on them not got getting the ball
Back? He's not going to publicly say "don't trust the D"
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Exactly. That plus JA using up a little extra time blew Heupel's plan. He wanted to make sure he left MSU nothing on the clock.

I get attacked for saying so but I would not trust Banks when matching wits with any above average playcaller. Lebby knows how to call plays. Yes. UT is missing some key guys but that's not why he gets twisted in knots... not a new problem.
 
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Prayivm3rcy said:
Its subjective whether you think 45 secs was enough time to move the ball into fg range. I personally think if executed right 45 secs was enough time for our offense to move the ball and not give Miss st an chance to get the ball back.
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That's what they were trying to do apparently and didn't execute well. Heupel has a hand in it but he must have felt better about the risks of OT than about making a mistake at the 50 yard line.
 
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PastorVolFan said:
Don't disagree...some definite head-scratcher decisions...

And...this one I'll admit is really petty...but geez, I kinda wish he cared more about his appearance on the sideline. The slobb-ish look seems to be getting worse the longer he's here. He looks like a Dad on vacation at the beach who decided not to shave for a week.
(Admittedly not the most important thing, but that job deserves a little more image effort, IMO)
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I agree with you. I miss the days when coaches respected the game, the university, the fans and most of all their players to represent themselves professionally. He reminds me of "Otis" on Andy Griffith. Really like CJH, just wished he took to appearance game to the next level or two. Feel free to disagree with the "as long as we're winning, I don't care". Fine, remember that when your daughter brings home a real loser and says, "But daddy, I'm happy".

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