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TNHopeful505

TNHopeful505

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But whatever happened to your word? I'm not talking about committment...I'm talking about making statements like these, and then going back on it.

Santos: "I'm 99.9% Committed."

Peters: "Nobody has anything to worry about. I'm a VFL. There is no way that I don't sign with Tennessee on Wednesday"

I mean, don't say those things unless you are completely sure that you are going to sign with Tennessee. I understand things change, but you can't say those things one day, and then go back on it the next.

Not trying to be butthurt, just frustrating that those comments were made and put out.
 
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For the past couple of years, it seems that UT has been the laughing stock for recruits. It's almost like they enjoy playing around with UT just to make a splash and get media attention.
 
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Yeah, all of these kids were born in the 90's, and as such they can't remember when we were dominant.
 
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Look at our families, government...heck, just look around you or flip the TV channels around for a few minutes, we arent teachin our youth about commitment anymore. A mans word used to be his vow, most ain't worth a dime anymore.
 
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LynxVol said:
For the past couple of years, it seems that UT has been the laughing stock for recruits. It's almost like they enjoy playing around with UT just to make a splash and get media attention.
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I am pretty sure that this happens to most Universities. These kids are being pulled in a number of different directions.
 
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TNHopeful505 said:
But whatever happened to your word? I'm not talking about committment...I'm talking about making statements like these, and then going back on it.

Santos: "I'm 99.9% Committed."

Peters: "Nobody has anything to worry about. I'm a VFL. There is no way that I don't sign with Tennessee on Wednesday"

I mean, don't say those things unless you are completely sure that you are going to sign with Tennessee. I understand things change, but you can't say those things one day, and then go back on it the next.

Not trying to be butthurt, just frustrating that those comments were made and put out.
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I don't necessarily hold it against them. Recruiting is dirty and places an incredibly large public spotlight on high school seniors, especially now that there are media outlets dedicated to covering it. I mean, few had ever heard of Al Wilson before he was a stud at UT. Now these kids are expected to be the "white Al Wilson" or next Leonard Little, etc, before they're even a member of the team. There is a ton of pressure in today's world that most people will never, ever understand.

With the new signing limits, pressure to commit early (not necessarily by the UT coaching staff) is higher than ever. I'm a big proponent of an early signing period to alleviate a lot of this pressure. The fact is, these kids have to do what's right for THEM, not what the fanbase thinks is right for the program.
 
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It's understandable with Santos because circumstances changed and he got an offer from his dream school.

But Peters? Inexcusable, and he deserves to be TRASHED by media and fans for lying so blatantly.
 
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I just appreciate Dalton Santos much more now. He was straight up about it, never lied, and told our coaches in person. Yes, I'm ticked that he said 99.9% committed and then switched, but that's MUCH better than saying "you got nothing to worry about."
 
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HSVol said:
I don't necessarily hold it against them. Recruiting is dirty and places an incredibly large public spotlight on high school seniors, especially now that there are media outlets dedicated to covering it. I mean, few had ever heard of Al Wilson before he was a stud at UT. Now these kids are expected to be the "white Al Wilson" or next Leonard Little, etc, before they're even a member of the team. There is a ton of pressure in today's world that most people will never, ever understand.

With the new signing limits, pressure to commit early (not necessarily by the UT coaching staff) is higher than ever. I'm a big proponent of an early signing period to alleviate a lot of this pressure. The fact is, these kids have to do what's right for THEM, not what the fanbase thinks is right for the program.
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None of us are arguing that they should not do what's right for them. By all means, do what is appropriate for you. BUT HANDLE IT LIKE A MAN.
 
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UTRavens said:
But Peters? Inexcusable, and he deserves to be TRASHED by media and fans for lying so blatantly.
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It's not like he lied to you.

Regardless if he lied or not, the freak out is exactly the same. Deal with it.
 
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1allvol said:
Look at our families, government...heck, just look around you or flip the TV channels around for a few minutes, we arent teachin our youth about commitment anymore. A mans word used to be his vow, most ain't worth a dime anymore.
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You're exactly right you can't expect someone to shake your hand and stick to their word anymore it's just not there anymore. Sad times we live in.
 
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I wonder how Henderson and Cross feel about this thread? Good for goose...good for gander. Early signing period is the only thing that solves it.
 
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It's dirty recruiting. Everyone under the sun has been telling these commits of ours all the while how Dooley is gone after this year and using any hint of negativity against us. Sadly, many of our own fans have been beating the same drum. You hear enough crap you eventually start to believe in it.
 
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HSVol said:
It's not like he lied to you.

Regardless if he lied or not, the freak out is exactly the same. Deal with it.
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No, but he lied to Tennessee, straight up and repeatedly. That's scumbag behavior right there, and other than actual threats and unwarranted offensive remarks, he deserves whatever treatment he gets.
 
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HSVol said:
I don't necessarily hold it against them. Recruiting is dirty and places an incredibly large public spotlight on high school seniors, especially now that there are media outlets dedicated to covering it. I mean, few had ever heard of Al Wilson before he was a stud at UT. Now these kids are expected to be the "white Al Wilson" or next Leonard Little, etc, before they're even a member of the team. There is a ton of pressure in today's world that most people will never, ever understand.

With the new signing limits, pressure to commit early (not necessarily by the UT coaching staff) is higher than ever. I'm a big proponent of an early signing period to alleviate a lot of this pressure. The fact is, these kids have to do what's right for THEM, not what the fanbase thinks is right for the program.
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Look at the way fans talk about CDD....Other coaches use that crap against us all the time......

There is too damn much negativity around this program and you can point a kid to the any vol site to see it...Coaches use it against us anyway they can especially in recruiting....
 
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It all starts with kiffin ruining the reputation of this prestigious football school.

He made it ok to pretend to be fully committed to UT, then up and leave on almost a whim.

"Im here 100%...unless something "better" comes along on a whim."
 
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UTRavens said:
No, but he lied to Tennessee, straight up and repeatedly. That's scumbag behavior right there, and other than actual threats and unwarranted offensive remarks, he deserves whatever treatment he gets.
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Exactly. You may say, "He didn't lie to you," but to say that, you obviously don't understand what it is to be a fan. When you're a fan, it's like it's YOUR team. You feel ownership in the team. So therefore, when you commit to play for our team, we assume that you want to be part of our family and we take you in, and accept you 100% with usually no reservations. And that sounds totally lame, but it is exactly how we feel. We get stabbed in the front by someone who we truly got excited about seeing in orange. And then to hear him say the reasoning is that we aren't close to a championship? Well, how are we ever going to be when guys like him choose to add to the problem instead of be part of the solution?

Just sucks. Drama.
 
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DaytonLawVol said:
There really needs to be a early signing period for high school recruits.
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I agree and will add this. It's our fault for making the rock stars before they have proved squat!! Never happen but if there wasn't so much attention focused on these players by us the fans I don't think you would see as much of this prima dona crap.
 
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It is not the kids faults. It is 100% our fault. Can you imagine being 16 and having 12 thousand grown men clinging to your every word and discussing it all day on the internet, like a group of 13 year old girls discussing twilight? These kids should not have to be pressured into making commitments until ....well hell, tomorrow. I am sure this kid was absolutely sure he was all Vol when he said it, just like I was sure the first tail I had was the best and only I would ever desire/need, and would have written in my blood at the time.
 
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TNBV said:
It is not the kids faults. It is 100% our fault. Can you imagine being 16 and having 12 thousand grown men clinging to your every word and discussing it all day on the internet, like a group of 13 year old girls discussing twilight? These kids should not have to be pressured into making commitments until ....well hell, tomorrow. I am sure this kid was absolutely sure he was all Vol when he said it, just like I was sure the first tail I had was the best and only I would ever desire/need, and would have written in my blood at the time.
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No, it's the kid's fault. No one forced him to lie over and over again.
 
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OK, I have a ton of experience dealing with the recruitment of 17-18-19 year old kids. I recruited for the military for 8 years and dealt with this issue all the time. Kids will look you right in the eye and lie to you. I know some of you will say "military recruiters" lie but I never did.

The issue here isn't as much the teenager but as much the parent. Kids are not being shown to honor a committment in our society today. More and more kids are being taught to quit than to follow through with what they started. Now the only defense I have for the kids is schools can pull scholarships at any point during this process. Until there is a punishment for switching your committment or for schools pulling scholarships this will continue to go on.

From someone who has had this happen but in a different way, you just get up dust yourself off and move forward.
 
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