I just realized that it's gotten to the point where

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GBO97

GBO97

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I really have no trust or confidence in anyone involved in this program (with a few exceptions for players and asst. coaches).

I have little to no confidence that the players will make the big plays we need to win, esp. late with the game on the line.

I have little to no confidence that many of the position coaches will adequately fix issues and improve their positions on gameday.

I have little to no confidence that Butch will prepare this team to win on a weekly basis, that he will make necessary adjustments in-game, that he will play to win a game instead of not to lose one, or that he will stop making baffling decisions in certain instances.

I have little to no confidence that Hart will make the decisions that will give UT football the greatest opportunity to succeed, including the potential head coaching change, and it's timing, negotiations, and selection of successor.

I have little to no confidence that Cheek is placing a heavy priority on athletics at UT, that he is taking an active role in helping our sports teams be at their best, or that he would correctly handle an AD change if it happened.

It goes from the very top all the way down. And it's bad and it sucks and I hate it. I want to believe that we have all the personnel in place to get it done at a high level here but it seems like everyone has a bad track record. Although it probably won't happen, I (part of me at least) would love to us clean house completely and start from scratch with the exception of the players. And I know that that would wreck stability and bring a lot of uncertainty and concern. I just hate that I'm always saying things with certainty like "we won't win this game," "we won't turn it around this year," or "we'll screw up the next coaching hire again." I hate being so cynical about everyone in this program that I love so much, even though a lot of it is warranted. Just my 2¢. GBO
 
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GBO97 said:
I really have no trust or confidence in anyone involved in this program (with a few exceptions for players and asst. coaches).

I have little to no confidence that the players will make the big plays we need to win, esp. late with the game on the line.

I have little to no confidence that many of the position coaches will adequately fix issues and improve their positions on gameday.

I have little to no confidence that Butch will prepare this team to win on a weekly basis, that he will make necessary adjustments in-game, that he will play to win a game instead of not to lose one, or that he will stop making baffling decisions in certain instances.

I have little to no confidence that Hart will make the decisions that will give UT football the greatest opportunity to succeed, including the potential head coaching change, and it's timing, negotiations, and selection of successor.

I have little to no confidence that Cheek is placing a heavy priority on athletics at UT, that he is taking an active role in helping our sports teams be at their best, or that he would correctly handle an AD change if it happened.

It goes from the very top all the way down. And it's bad and it sucks and I hate it. I want to believe that we have all the personnel in place to get it done at a high level here but it seems like everyone has a bad track record. Although it probably won't happen, I (part of me at least) would love to us clean house completely and start from scratch with the exception of the players. And I know that that would wreck stability and bring a lot of uncertainty and concern. I just hate that I'm always saying things with certainty like "we won't win this game," "we won't turn it around this year," or "we'll screw up the next coaching hire again." I hate being so cynical about everyone in this program that I love so much, even though a lot of it is warranted. Just my 2¢. GBO
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I agree with you. But you people might as well get over it. Because Tennessee will never spend the big bucks to get a good coach. If Butch was to leave we will go after a mid major coach with a lot of upside. That's what we will be told.
 
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Had a hard time deciding where I stand on the situation this year. I've finally decided that the program is leaps and bounds better than it was when CBJ took over. He may not take us all the way back, but he wasn't a bad hire. Despite some questionable game day coaching, I think he's earned the chance to finish the rebuild. If he fails we will be in way better shape to hire the one that can finish the job. The depth should be there for instant success for the next coach if recruiting stays on the level it has been. Just my view. GBO! Regardless.
 
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rickyyrs said:
I agree with you. But you people might as well get over it. Because Tennessee will never spend the big bucks to get a good coach. If Butch was to leave we will go after a mid major coach with a lot of upside. That's what we will be told.
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I agree with that logic. That's what bothers me, as I said in the OP.
 
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I feel the same.... sense of resignation. I think I felt the same way after I knew the 08 season was going south on Fulmer with the only possible way of recovery being his termination.

I really find little reason to believe he can put a winner together. Now... it is just a matter of how long it takes to run its course.
 
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66volfan said:
Had a hard time deciding where I stand on the situation this year. I've finally decided that the program is leaps and bounds better than it was when CBJ took over. He may not take us all the way back, but he wasn't a bad hire. Despite some questionable game day coaching, I think he's earned the chance to finish the rebuild. If he fails we will be in way better shape to hire the one that can finish the job. The depth should be there for instant success for the next coach if recruiting stays on the level it has been. Just my view. GBO! Regardless.
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depth is a major problem for sure,the Defense is getting gassed in the 2nd half,that is a depth issue for them

of course part of the problem is the Offense isn't doing much in the 2nd half to help them out,the Offense needs to be able to have some sustained drives

and we are back to a lack of SEC depth on the Offensive line and elsewhere, for that to happen and no passing game just adds fuel to the fire

to me these problems will be around,till the team gets more SEC experience and Dobbs can hit some deep passes

and no I don't know who CBJ is trying to recruit for the Offensive line this year,that is a glaring concern and the linebackers need a lot of help also

these are things that only time and great recruiting are going to fix,we know that CBJ can recruit great,now it will be time to see if he can recruit to the Teams greatest needs

and will he make adjustments in his coaching staff is another question,is it coaching or the lack of depth and talent,or a combination of both ?

it will take time,but CBJs team are improving each year,that is hard to over look
 
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66volfan said:
Had a hard time deciding where I stand on the situation this year. I've finally decided that the program is leaps and bounds better than it was when CBJ took over. He may not take us all the way back, but he wasn't a bad hire. Despite some questionable game day coaching, I think he's earned the chance to finish the rebuild. If he fails we will be in way better shape to hire the one that can finish the job. The depth should be there for instant success for the next coach if recruiting stays on the level it has been. Just my view. GBO! Regardless.
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Valid points. I think that, unlike with the last two coaches, IF we can actually get a good coach in here, he'll have the talent at his disposal to start winning year 1, rather than undergoing a massive rebuild. That's encouraging, but also a big if, especially with Dave Hart's history of hires so far. And it's possible Butch could wake up on Saturday suddenly knowing exactly how to coach his team to success, but it's not likely. I think there's almost no chance of him being gone at the end of this year barring a total collapse. I think it's more likely Butch's successor fixes things here than it is that he does, but at this point it's all just a bunch of uncertainly and we have to just ride it out.
 
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Orange Marlin said:
This is the biggest bunch of BULL 💩💩💩💩 I think I ever read.
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Why didn't you just stop reading it? Since you didn't and decided to call it BS, please enlighten us with your opinion as to why you think it's BS?

Or are there not enough emoticons for you to use that represents your opinion?
 
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GBO97 said:
Valid points. I think that, unlike with the last two coaches, IF we can actually get a good coach in here, he'll have the talent at his disposal to start winning year 1, rather than undergoing a massive rebuild.
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I'm so sick of reading this same bs over and over! Players will transfer and the good recruiting class will be nonexistent. Then your back to three to four year rebuild even if you dig lombardi up and prop him up on the sideline!

Please GBO97, walk around repeating what I have typed over and over tomorrow!
 
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governmentmule said:
depth is a major problem for sure,the Defense is getting gassed in the 2nd half,that is a depth issue for them

of course part of the problem is the Offense isn't doing much in the 2nd half to help them out,the Offense needs to be able to have some sustained drives

and we are back to a lack of SEC depth on the Offensive line and elsewhere, for that to happen and no passing game just adds fuel to the fire

to me these problems will be around,till the team gets more SEC experience and Dobbs can hit some deep passes

and no I don't know who CBJ is trying to recruit for the Offensive line this year,that is a glaring concern and the linebackers need a lot of help also

these are things that only time and great recruiting are going to fix,we know that CBJ can recruit great,now it will be time to see if he can recruit to the Teams greatest needs

and will he make adjustments in his coaching staff is another question,is it coaching or the lack of depth and talent,or a combination of both ?

it will take time,but CBJs team are improving each year,that is hard to over look
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"Great" recruiting doesn't have those kinds of gaping holes in year 3. He's looked good on NSD... but go back and look at how much attrition he's had in those classes and how much was among the highly rated players.

On NSD '14, half of the 4* players from that class are gone. Two of 5 4* from the first class are gone.

Not all but some of those players could have helped.... along with some of the inherited players that Jones basically pushed out.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
I'm so sick of reading this same bs over and over! Players will transfer and the good recruiting class will be nonexistent. Then your back to three to four year rebuild even if you dig lombardi up and prop him up on the sideline!

Please GBO97, walk around repeating what I have typed over and over tomorrow!
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If you didn't notice, Florida and Michigan are coming off of failed coaches, and they're doing just fine right now. We have enough talent at this moment in time that if Hart was able to actually get a good coach, he could get us back to winning his 1st year, or 2nd at the latest. And transfers will happen, but they're usually 75% from backups and role players anyway.
 
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Could you imagine what Art or Kyle would be doing with our roster? If I was a coach I would be calling Hart and begging for the job. All the facilities and all the fans. Neyland freaking stadium. Hell fire, its a damn dream job.
 
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sjt18 said:
"Great" recruiting doesn't have those kinds of gaping holes in year 3. He's looked good on NSD... but go back and look at how much attrition he's had in those classes and how much was among the highly rated players.

On NSD '14, half of the 4* players from that class are gone. Two of 5 4* from the first class are gone.

Not all but some of those players could have helped.... along with some of the inherited players that Jones basically pushed out.
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Can you complain a little harder?
 
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FLSTF-VOL said:
Why didn't you just stop reading it? Since you didn't and decided to call it BS, please enlighten us with your opinion as to why you think it's BS?

Or are there not enough emoticons for you to use that represents your opinion?
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Okay here we go. First of all the decision of coach on the field have not work out as we can see, and it cost the team 3 ball games. I'm hoping that gets better and it should. But all this started before we even played a game this year lost a sr.ol , lost our nb for the year even started, 2nd our jr wr not playing as well another jr wr not been healthy also our sr wr not been playing we lost our captain on defense Curt M. And by loosing him that when the defense change. Just so you remember Oklahoma didn't do much of anything until Curt went down. So in short and I can give you more as we go along, we are down 6 starters before and after the 2nd game. That hurt and rather you like it or not that hurts more then we really can understand. And this is for you ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
 
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66volfan said:
Had a hard time deciding where I stand on the situation this year. I've finally decided that the program is leaps and bounds better than it was when CBJ took over. He may not take us all the way back, but he wasn't a bad hire. Despite some questionable game day coaching, I think he's earned the chance to finish the rebuild. If he fails we will be in way better shape to hire the one that can finish the job. The depth should be there for instant success for the next coach if recruiting stays on the level it has been. Just my view. GBO! Regardless.
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He would have been a good coach had we not given him a 5 year contract extension for beating Iowa. He was always going to be the I between coach. The guy to bring talent in, restore or damaged image, get the VFLs back in the fold. He was never going to get us to the promised land. Problem is that Hart saw the increase in ticket sales and doubled down
 
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