I hope the star gazers are watching SF

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Boca Vol

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Colin Kaepernick:

Kaepernick achieved most of his accolades in high school as a baseball pitcher and received several scholarship offers in that sport,[1] yet he desperately wanted to play football in college. He was almost 6' 5" as a senior, but he only weighed 170 pounds (77 kg) and his coaches generally kept him from running the ball to limit his risk of injury.[2] Additionally, he had poor throwing mechanics, despite his strong arm.[1] During his junior year, Pitman's head coach at the time, Larry Nigro, made a highlight tape which Colin's brother Kyle copied to DVD and then sent to about one hundred Division I-A (now FBS) programs, receiving some interest but no offers for scholarship.[1] Even as a senior, he received little attention from FBS schools. Although the Wolf Pack coaching staff frequently watched video of his high school team, no one from Nevada's staff came to Turlock to see him play during his senior football season.[2] Wolf Pack head coach Chris Ault decided to offer him a scholarship after one of his assistants, Barry Sacks, saw Kaepernick dominate a high school basketball game on an evening he was suffering from a fever of 102 °F (39 °C). Nevada was the only school that offered him a football scholarship, but was concerned that he would opt for baseball until he signed in February 2006.[2]
 
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cool.

you build your team with players offered scholarships by only 1 school. you sign 85 guys that no other division 1 schools want.

i'll sign 85 guys who every school in the country would want.

we'll play whenever you want and see what happens.
 
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My point was there are "players" out there beyond the "*" ratings.

Coaching and desire have a lot to do with it.
 
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Boca Vol said:
My point was there are "players" out there beyond the "*" ratings.

Coaching and desire have a lot to do with it.
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Exactly.

I know a lot of people here s*** on Bray, but he was a good QB that dealt with crap defenses. His only other two offers were San Diego St. and Fresno St.

Go figure
 
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Boca Vol said:
My point was there are "players" out there beyond the "*" ratings.

Coaching and desire have a lot to do with it.
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i get it, but this is always about probability.

no one ever suggested, at least i haven't, that any ratings system is 100% accurate.

highly rated well sought after recruits are more likely to perform at a higher level than lower rated recruits who are not as sought after.

so, again, i suggest taking the pepsi challenge and putting together a roster loaded with players who aren't highly thought of and very few schools are offering a scholarship to. see how far that gets anyone
 
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Boca Vol said:
Colin Kaepernick:

Kaepernick achieved most of his accolades in high school as a baseball pitcher and received several scholarship offers in that sport,[1] yet he desperately wanted to play football in college. He was almost 6' 5" as a senior, but he only weighed 170 pounds (77 kg) and his coaches generally kept him from running the ball to limit his risk of injury.[2] Additionally, he had poor throwing mechanics, despite his strong arm.[1] During his junior year, Pitman's head coach at the time, Larry Nigro, made a highlight tape which Colin's brother Kyle copied to DVD and then sent to about one hundred Division I-A (now FBS) programs, receiving some interest but no offers for scholarship.[1] Even as a senior, he received little attention from FBS schools. Although the Wolf Pack coaching staff frequently watched video of his high school team, no one from Nevada's staff came to Turlock to see him play during his senior football season.[2] Wolf Pack head coach Chris Ault decided to offer him a scholarship after one of his assistants, Barry Sacks, saw Kaepernick dominate a high school basketball game on an evening he was suffering from a fever of 102 °F (39 °C). Nevada was the only school that offered him a football scholarship, but was concerned that he would opt for baseball until he signed in February 2006.[2]
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exception to the rule...not the rule. by the way, peyton was a 5 star...best in orange ever.
 
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aaronvol said:
exception to the rule...not the rule. by the way, peyton was a 5 star...best in orange ever.
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And he will be watching next week. Nothing is exact in this world.

My point to the all the star gazers,,,STOP! What matters is what happens when they get on campus and the coaches get a hold of them.

I don't care where UT's recruiting class ranks, I care about where they end up.
 
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99gator said:
i get it, but this is always about probability.

no one ever suggested, at least i haven't, that any ratings system is 100% accurate.

highly rated well sought after recruits are more likely to perform at a higher level than lower rated recruits who are not as sought after.

so, again, i suggest taking the pepsi challenge and putting together a roster loaded with players who aren't highly thought of and very few schools are offering a scholarship to. see how far that gets anyone
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Could we just load a roster of players that aren't highly thought of by UF?






EDIT: Louisville already completed that challenge and won
 
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Boca Vol said:
And he will be watching next week. Nothing is exact in this world.

My point to the all the star gazers,,,STOP! What matters is what happens when they get on campus and the coaches get a hold of them.

I don't care where UT's recruiting class ranks, I care about where they end up.
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well, of course.

but, do you expect to have better results with a #1 ranked recruiting class or a #50 ranked recruiting class?
 
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Here we go again with the we can compete with the elite teams with lower rated players. Have Nevada play Alabama and get back with us on the importance of recruiting high level talent. There will always be a needle in the haystack.
 
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99gator said:
i suggest pursuing kentucky's football recruiting targets....because, hey, star ratings don't matter.
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Louisville Recruiting Rankings

2011 #29
2012 #42
2013 #57

Florida Recruiting Rankings

2011 #12
2012 #3
2013 #1

Louisville 33 Florida 23.......
 
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99gator said:
well, of course.

but, do you expect to have better results with a #1 ranked recruiting class or a #50 ranked recruiting class?
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Sure! But UT isn't, ever, going to have the #1 ranked recruiting class. Look at UM's mighty class of '08 resulted in...NOTHING!

Players gel or they don't. Hell, Bruce Pearl tool a crappy basketball team and turned them into a #2 seed.

No, football isn't hoops, but coaching is a large part of a team's success. Look at the Bama/ ND game. The Center & QB got into it when the game was in the bag. That's COACHING to PERFECTION.
 
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Just because someone is a great player in the NFL now does not mean they were a great player at 18 years old, and vice versa. I know one 3rd string QB in NY that I would take over any current NFL starter.
 
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"A 15-1 horse won last time I went to the track, so therefore all I need to do from here on out is bet most of my money on 15-1 horses and I'll be a millionaire."
 
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vols-1 said:
Just because someone is a great player in the NFL now does not mean they were a great player at 18 years old, and vice versa. I know one 3rd string QB in NY that I would take over any current NFL starter.
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Tebow? If so, the Jags are making a huge mistake. You're telling me Blaine Gabbert is a better QB than Tebow! No way! Plus, automatic sellouts! IDIOT!
 
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Boca Vol said:
My point was there are "players" out there beyond the "*" ratings.

Coaching and desire have a lot to do with it.
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For certain individuals but not teams. SF was down a lot of years and put together some good pieces with those early draft picks. They were really good last year. Harbaugh is a great coach but that is a talented team.
 
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Boca Vol said:
Colin Kaepernick:

Kaepernick achieved most of his accolades in high school as a baseball pitcher and received several scholarship offers in that sport,[1] yet he desperately wanted to play football in college. He was almost 6' 5" as a senior, but he only weighed 170 pounds (77 kg) and his coaches generally kept him from running the ball to limit his risk of injury.[2] Additionally, he had poor throwing mechanics, despite his strong arm.[1] During his junior year, Pitman's head coach at the time, Larry Nigro, made a highlight tape which Colin's brother Kyle copied to DVD and then sent to about one hundred Division I-A (now FBS) programs, receiving some interest but no offers for scholarship.[1] Even as a senior, he received little attention from FBS schools. Although the Wolf Pack coaching staff frequently watched video of his high school team, no one from Nevada's staff came to Turlock to see him play during his senior football season.[2] Wolf Pack head coach Chris Ault decided to offer him a scholarship after one of his assistants, Barry Sacks, saw Kaepernick dominate a high school basketball game on an evening he was suffering from a fever of 102 °F (39 °C). Nevada was the only school that offered him a football scholarship, but was concerned that he would opt for baseball until he signed in February 2006.[2]
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Thanks for the conversions. This wouldn't have made any sense without them.
 
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catchnburn said:
Louisville Recruiting Rankings

2011 #29
2012 #42
2013 #57

Florida Recruiting Rankings

2011 #12
2012 #3
2013 #1

Louisville 33 Florida 23.......
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Yeah, in a bowl game that ultimately means nothing.

And how have we done the past 8 years?
 
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vols-1 said:
Just because someone is a great player in the NFL now does not mean they were a great player at 18 years old, and vice versa. I know one 3rd string QB in NY that I would take over any current NFL starter.
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Good thing you're not an NFL GM then.
 
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