I have a gun control question

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I have a question for people who say gun control could work. I am in no way saying that opinion is valid or not, and not attempting to insult anyone who believes it, but I would like to know from someone who has thought about it..

How? How do you take guns away from tens of millions of Americans? How do you logistically do it?
 
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I have a question for people who say gun control could work. I am in no way saying that opinion is valid or not, and not attempting to insult anyone who believes it, but I would like to know from someone who has thought about it..

How? How do you take guns away from tens of millions of Americans? How do you logistically do it?
You tell them that they can't have them anymore, and then you go pick them up. There will be a number of deaths, but that would be a small price to pay to make the liberals feel better, at least until they get rounded up and taken away.
 
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The only people that would lose guns if they were taken would be legal owners. They wouldn’t even attempt to go in the streets and disarm gangs and criminals.
 
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The only people that would lose guns if they were taken would be legal owners. They wouldn’t even attempt to go in the streets and disarm gangs and criminals.


Guns are confiscated from criminals and gang members 247--thousands of them. It wouldn't be that hard to get rid of all, say, handguns in America. It would take some time, but you could get rid of 90 percent of them with a reasonable amount of time. If you ban the manufacture and sale and importation of guns, and the trading, and confiscate guns from all criminals, together with turn-in-your-gun efforts and other measures, you could get rid of the vast majority of handguns and assault rifles pretty quickly. The idea that you can't is just more self-serving nonsense from the pro-gun crowd. It is ever harder to solve problems in America because of the right-wing bull$hit industry. I mean, think about it: right-wing politicians and conservative individuals now choose to ignore scientific conclusions because they don't like the conclusions. Conservative voters prefer disinformation--bull$****--to real information. It's like EPA chief and pro-energy industry hack Scott Pruitt saying recently that he's "not convinced" that asbestos is a health hazard! Really. What a disreputable, loathsome individual. It's like one of us saying that we don't believe 2 + 2 equals 4 because we have a problem with the number 4. That's kind of where we are in America nowadays, sadly.
 
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Guns are confiscated from criminals and gang members 247--thousands of them. It wouldn't be that hard to get rid of all, say, handguns in America. It would take some time, but you could get rid of 90 percent of them with a reasonable amount of time. If you ban the manufacture and sale and importation of guns, and the trading, and confiscate guns from all criminals, together with turn-in-your-gun efforts and other measures, you could get rid of the vast majority of handguns and assault rifles pretty quickly. The idea that you can't is just more self-serving nonsense from the pro-gun crowd. It is ever harder to solve problems in America because of the right-wing bull$hit industry. I mean, think about it: right-wing politicians and conservative individuals now choose to ignore scientific conclusions because they don't like the conclusions. Conservative voters prefer disinformation--bull$****--to real information. It's like EPA chief and pro-energy industry hack Scott Pruitt saying recently that he's "not convinced" that asbestos is a health hazard! Really. What a disreputable, loathsome individual. It's like one of us saying that we don't believe 2 + 2 equals 4 because we have a problem with the number 4. That's kind of where we are in America nowadays, sadly.

Chicago says hello. Explain to me how convicted felons all over have guns? The only way these guys lose guns is if they get pulled over or something.
 
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Australia.

"... the Australian government “banned automatic and semiautomatic firearms, adopted new licensing requirements, established a national firearms registry, and instituted a 28-day waiting period for gun purchases. It also bought and destroyed more than 600,000 civilian-owned firearms, in a scheme that cost half a billion dollars and was funded by raising taxes.” The entire overhaul, Friedman pointed out, took just months to implement."

"...The number of mass shootings in Australia—defined as incidents in which a gunman killed five or more people other than himself, which is notably a higher casualty count than is generally applied for tallying mass shootings in the U.S.—dropped from 13 in the 18-year period before 1996 to zero after the Port Arthur massacre. Between 1995 and 2006, gun-related homicides and suicides in the country dropped by 59 percent and 65 percent, respectively, though these declines appear to have since leveled off. Two academics who have studied the impact of the reform initiative estimate that the gun-buyback program saves at least 200 lives each year, according to The New York Times."

How Australia Restricted Guns After a 1996 Massacre - The Atlantic
 
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Guns are confiscated from criminals and gang members 247--thousands of them. It wouldn't be that hard to get rid of all, say, handguns in America. It would take some time, but you could get rid of 90 percent of them with a reasonable amount of time. If you ban the manufacture and sale and importation of guns, and the trading, and confiscate guns from all criminals, together with turn-in-your-gun efforts and other measures, you could get rid of the vast majority of handguns and assault rifles pretty quickly. The idea that you can't is just more self-serving nonsense from the pro-gun crowd. It is ever harder to solve problems in America because of the right-wing bull$hit industry. I mean, think about it: right-wing politicians and conservative individuals now choose to ignore scientific conclusions because they don't like the conclusions. Conservative voters prefer disinformation--bull$****--to real information. It's like EPA chief and pro-energy industry hack Scott Pruitt saying recently that he's "not convinced" that asbestos is a health hazard! Really. What a disreputable, loathsome individual. It's like one of us saying that we don't believe 2 + 2 equals 4 because we have a problem with the number 4. That's kind of where we are in America nowadays, sadly.

Blaming the right wing again. What is stopping you from cleaning up the streets?
 
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Australia.

"... the Australian government “banned automatic and semiautomatic firearms, adopted new licensing requirements, established a national firearms registry, and instituted a 28-day waiting period for gun purchases. It also bought and destroyed more than 600,000 civilian-owned firearms, in a scheme that cost half a billion dollars and was funded by raising taxes.” The entire overhaul, Friedman pointed out, took just months to implement."

"...The number of mass shootings in Australia—defined as incidents in which a gunman killed five or more people other than himself, which is notably a higher casualty count than is generally applied for tallying mass shootings in the U.S.—dropped from 13 in the 18-year period before 1996 to zero after the Port Arthur massacre. Between 1995 and 2006, gun-related homicides and suicides in the country dropped by 59 percent and 65 percent, respectively, though these declines appear to have since leveled off. Two academics who have studied the impact of the reform initiative estimate that the gun-buyback program saves at least 200 lives each year, according to The New York Times."

How Australia Restricted Guns After a 1996 Massacre - The Atlantic

Apples and Outback Oranges
 
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Gun control works.

Deep slow breaths. Squeeze don't jerk. Keep one eye open. Control.

And I just looked and none of mine have kilt anybody today so they are still under control.
 
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Guns are confiscated from criminals and gang members 247--thousands of them. It wouldn't be that hard to get rid of all, say, handguns in America. It would take some time, but you could get rid of 90 percent of them with a reasonable amount of time. If you ban the manufacture and sale and importation of guns, and the trading, and confiscate guns from all criminals, together with turn-in-your-gun efforts and other measures, you could get rid of the vast majority of handguns and assault rifles pretty quickly. The idea that you can't is just more self-serving nonsense from the pro-gun crowd. It is ever harder to solve problems in America because of the right-wing bull$hit industry. I mean, think about it: right-wing politicians and conservative individuals now choose to ignore scientific conclusions because they don't like the conclusions. Conservative voters prefer disinformation--bull$****--to real information. It's like EPA chief and pro-energy industry hack Scott Pruitt saying recently that he's "not convinced" that asbestos is a health hazard! Really. What a disreputable, loathsome individual. It's like one of us saying that we don't believe 2 + 2 equals 4 because we have a problem with the number 4. That's kind of where we are in America nowadays, sadly.


How are you going to stop 3D printing that is just around the corner? Make it against the law?
 
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How are you going to stop 3D printing that is just around the corner? Make it against the law?

Just like there is never a definition of "climate change" there is no definition of "gun control". It means countless things so it really means nothing. Mexico has some tough gun standards and regulation. Not sure the Mexican mafia really cares.
 
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Oh yeah? Do tell...

Well lets see, based on current setimates Australia has roughly 24.5 million people. The United States has around 330 million. The US has a larger immigrant, legal and illegal, population that Australia's total population. Australia does not border one of the most dangerous countries in the world. I mean these are just a few facts that you can choose to ignore if you want to. But they are facts none the less.
 
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Just like there is never a definition of "climate change" there is no definition of "gun control". It means countless things so it really means nothing. Mexico has some tough gun standards and regulation. Not sure the Mexican mafia really cares.
Exactly. It shows even more how emotionally blinded guys like The Stool really are.
 
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Well lets see, based on current setimates Australia has roughly 24.5 million people. The United States has around 330 million. The US has a larger immigrant, legal and illegal, population that Australia's total population. Australia does not border one of the most dangerous countries in the world. I mean these are just a few facts that you can choose to ignore if you want to. But they are facts none the less.

"most dangerous countries in the world."

I can hear the middle east and most of Africa scoffing from here.
 
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Yeah Mexico isn't dangerous at all.

If you saw a Latino on a plane, would you bolt like the time you saw the brown dude who looked middle Eastern?

Certain parts of Mexico are dangerous, but so are certain parts of the U.S.

Man up.
 
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I have a question for people who say gun control could work. I am in no way saying that opinion is valid or not, and not attempting to insult anyone who believes it, but I would like to know from someone who has thought about it..

How? How do you take guns away from tens of millions of Americans? How do you logistically do it?

You don't..... you'd get your ass shot off if you tried
 
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Well lets see, based on current setimates Australia has roughly 24.5 million people. The United States has around 330 million. The US has a larger immigrant, legal and illegal, population that Australia's total population. Australia does not border one of the most dangerous countries in the world. I mean these are just a few facts that you can choose to ignore if you want to. But they are facts none the less.

Australian government “banned automatic and semiautomatic firearms, adopted new licensing requirements, established a national firearms registry, and instituted a 28-day waiting period for gun purchases."

Not following your logic. At all.

How do semi and fully automatic weapons make us (the public) safer from Mexico?

How does our greater population than Australia make such a potential ban less feasible?

And how the hell does our "larger immigrant population" have any bearing on the feasibility of gun control here?
 
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Ruger AR-556 rifle. Responsible for 26+ killed in church this morning. Shooter was 26 year old ex military white guy.

Defend your need to have such a weapon guys?

Save your breath. It has no place in the hands of the public in our society. Period. If you don't realize or acknowledge this simple fact, there's no fixing stupid.
 
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Ruger AR-556 rifle. Responsible for 26+ killed in church this morning. Shooter was 26 year old ex military white guy.

Defend your need to have such a weapon guys?

Save your breath. It has no place in the hands of the public in our society. Period. If you don't realize or acknowledge this simple fact, there's no fixing stupid.

You are right. Based on your horrible understanding of population, its effects on gun control and the fundamental rights of a free citizen in this country, you cannot fix stupid.
 
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You are right. Based on your horrible understanding of population, its effects on gun control and the fundamental rights of a free citizen in this country, you cannot fix stupid.

It's telling that you conveniently avoided my questions altogether.

Your claim about population and gun control is obviously nonsensical. As for your "fundamental rights" claim (thinking you're going with a 2nd Amendment claim here), no sir, eliminating your ability to own and operate a weapon intended for warfare does not constitute any violation of your supposed "fundamental rights" legally, nor does it harm your right to bear reasonable arms as a practical matter.

Your entrenched, unreasonable blanket support of all guns is a minority opinion in this country. Those who continue to blindly support assault weapons "rights" are effectively enablers to those who use them in these mass murders. Perhaps the only way you'll ever see the light is for such a Texas disaster to affect you personally... a 5 year old child was blown away in church along with 25 other people on Sunday by an insane man with an assault rifle - and you argue for his fundamental rights. Equally insane.
 
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Ruger AR-556 rifle. Responsible for 26+ killed in church this morning. Shooter was 26 year old ex military white guy.

Defend your need to have such a weapon guys?

Save your breath. It has no place in the hands of the public in our society. Period. If you don't realize or acknowledge this simple fact, there's no fixing stupid.

Let's not get carried away, he was in the Air Force and couldn't even hack it there. This kid must have been as crazy as he was soft.
 
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