I have a feeling

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JwolfeVFL said:
I don't know why but I have a feeling that we will be better than most think.
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These threads kick in every year around this time. Last year it was darkhorse playoff contender (nobody even QUESTIONED our winning the east). It's the excitement of a new season; we're undefeated.

But, one of these days the "we're better than most think" prediction is bound to be right...right?
 
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Are we really crying because CBJ hasnt named a starter? Really, there are lots of things to criticize
 
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molsen81 said:
You seem to be forgetting one thing. Butchy can't name a starter @ QB. That's not good.
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By now, one of the two should be taking 70-80% of the snaps with the ones. Named or not... anyone with access to practice knows who the starter is.
 
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Jones has built a team that can win 10+ games.

Jones now has to show he can get the most out of a team rather than leaving wins on the field.
 
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I think we will be better also. I feel we can be a 10 win team this year. We have experience, we have better (on paper) assistants, and I think these guys are a TEAM.

I feel Qb play will be better and our D will be better. If it weren't for injuries and our D being gutted last year, that alone should have been worth 1 more win. If we have production at de and our front 7 are solid then I'm not worried one bit.

Can't wait for the season to start!!
 
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Behr said:
Like what?
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-4 years of little development of players
-in game coaching
-attempting to control every narrative
-mishandling of star players
-poor practice program leading to more injuries
-poor strength and condition program in previous years.
-ill timed slogans
-not allowing coaches to coach, trys to have too much control


He has many positives as well
- not throwing players under the bus
- great work ethic
- solid recruiting
- good ethics and morals
 
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sjt18 said:
What do you mean? Are you saying that talent is not on the roster to win 10 games against this year's schedule?
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Dont know, we will see. We have had the talent to win 10+ games the last two years and failed to do go. So until he wins 10+ games in a season, then he hasnt assembled a team capbale of winning 10 games.
 
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volfannbama said:
-4 years of little development of players
-in game coaching
-attempting to control every narrative
-mishandling of star players
-poor practice program leading to more injuries
-poor strength and condition program in previous years.
-ill timed slogans
-not allowing coaches to coach, trys to have too much control


He has many positives as well
- not throwing players under the bus
- great work ethic
- solid recruiting
- good ethics and morals
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The degree to which he resolves some of these issues will determine UT's success this year.

Oddly, it seems that players he has put into the NFL supposedly have good skill development.
 
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volfannbama said:
Dont know, we will see. We have had the talent to win 10+ games the last two years and failed to do go. So until he wins 10+ games in a season, then he hasnt assembled a team capbale of winning 10 games.
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That's not a logical claim. It is the equivalent to saying a gallon milk jug is not capable of holding a gallon of milk until you put a gallon of milk into it.

Capacity or potential aren't limited by the failure to fulfill them.
 
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sjt18 said:
The degree to which he resolves some of these issues will determine UT's success this year.

Oddly, it seems that players he has put into the NFL supposedly have good skill development.
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There have been a few. But lets not fool ourselves. Barnett and Kamara were going to be great regardless. He did a pretty good job with Dobbs. Overall, the player development has simply not been good.

Jones has some great qualities, coaching big time football is not one. He is going to have to recognize that deficiency and surround himself with a really solid group of coaches and allow them the control for their respective position groups. Right now it looks like he is doing that, but in knowing that he can put it all together, ill have to see it to believe it.
 
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sjt18 said:
That's not a logical claim. It is the equivalent to saying a gallon milk jug is not capable of holding a gallon of milk until you put a gallon of milk into it.

Capacity or potential aren't limited by the failure to fulfill them.
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The gallon of milk is a known object with measurable content. Saying Jones has a team capable of winning 10 games is not a known. There is absolutely zero real proof of that other than someone saying it. The only real proof is when the 10th game has been won, and that has yet to be done.
 
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JwolfeVFL said:
I don't know why but I have a feeling that we will be better than most think....
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It's more than a feeling, Jwolfe, it's what's gonna happen. Anyone who wants to bet 7 wins is our ceiling this season, I'll be happy to put money on that with them. I'll take 8 and over, they get 7 and under.

Go Vols!

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSR6ZzjDZ94[/youtube]
 
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volfannbama said:
There have been a few. But lets not fool ourselves. Barnett and Kamara were going to be great regardless. He did a pretty good job with Dobbs. Overall, the player development has simply not been good.

Jones has some great qualities, coaching big time football is not one. He is going to have to recognize that deficiency and surround himself with a really solid group of coaches and allow them the control for their respective position groups. Right now it looks like he is doing that, but in knowing that he can put it all together, ill have to see it to believe it.
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Lewis appears to be doing well as does Malone.

I think he did a poor job brining SEC quality coaches with him. I don't think we have a disagreement there. I am still a little upset that he had a very, very good OL coach willing to stay and didn't keep him.

My argument is simply that he has not achieved the potential of the talent he's assembled. The last two years he's missed it by 2 or 3 games.
 
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JwolfeVFL said:
At least we have two good ones to choose from. I do believe that whom ever ends up being the starter will be a "good" if not "great" SEC QB. Besides I bet money that he already knows by now who's going to be starting. Other wise hes just a pushover and don't want to " hurt anyone's feelings". I for one like to think he has learned his lesson on that by now.
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The truth is that if he names a starter, the other QB will transfer.
 
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volfannbama said:
The gallon of milk is a known object with measurable content. Saying Jones has a team capable of winning 10 games is not a known. There is absolutely zero real proof of that other than someone saying it. The only real proof is when the 10th game has been won, and that has yet to be done.
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So you don't think the potential of athletes can be measured with a reasonable degree of accuracy? If that's true then why should we hold Jones accountable if he were to lose 10 games? Maybe the players just aren't any good. It isn't fair to fire him for something he was incapable of knowing, right?

It isn't something that can be done with absolute precision... but even the recruiting rankings system demonstrates that it can be measured in a meaningful way.
 
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TucsonVol said:
The truth is that if he names a starter, the other QB will transfer.
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No. That's not necessarily the "truth". Healthy programs have good QB's who develop behind someone else then start for a couple of years.

I don't know if QD would transfer. JG would have no good reason to do so. He'll get his shot.
 
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