I give tony eury jr 3 more races

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doozer said:
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thanks, after the day i had, i needed that laugh.
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Yeah because open wheel is so much harder to break into than Nascar. :eek:lol: Richard Petty has a harder time getting all his cup cars in the Daytona 500 than he did putting a ride in the Indy 500. I wouldn't be surprised if the Coca-Cola 600 gets better ratings than the Indy 500 and once Indy is over no one cares about open wheel for another year. But....you think the top two owners in cup couldn't figure out open wheel. No, thank you for the laugh. I guess they're smart enough not to waste money on a series that is relevant only once a year.
 
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615 Vol said:
Yeah because open wheel is so much harder to break into than Nascar. :eek:lol: Richard Petty has a harder time getting all his cup cars in the Daytona 500 than he did putting a ride in the Indy 500. I wouldn't be surprised if the Coca-Cola 600 gets better ratings than the Indy 500 and once Indy is over no one cares about open wheel for another year. But....you think the top two owners in cup couldn't figure out open wheel. No, thank you for the laugh. I guess they're smart enough not to waste money on a series that is relevant only once a year.
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do you actually believe what you type or do you just like to hear yourself bang the keys?
 
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rbroyles said:
Rick Hendrick doesn't come anywhere close to Roger Penske as far as being businessmen. Success in NASCAR or Indy Cars is no measure for business acumen. Penske sits on more Board of Directors than Hendrick has dealerships.

BTW I follow the IRL quite closely, and the racing is usually more entertaining than NASCAR as far as close finishes. NASCAR is more competitive overall.
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I'll ask you the same thing I ask doozer, what does their business venture have to do with the success they have on the track? That was the point I was making, I'm not disputing that Penske has a larger bank account than Rick Hendrick. Magic Johnson is probably a better businessman than Michael Jordan but we know who was better on the court. I'm saying that Hendrick, despite having less money, is more dominant in Nascar. As far as open wheel, ratings don't lie, Nascar is doing much better and has been for some time.
 
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615 Vol said:
I'll ask you the same thing I ask doozer, what does their business venture have to do with the success they have on the track? That was the point I was making, I'm not disputing that Penske has a larger bank account than Rick Hendrick. Magic Johnson is probably a better businessman than Michael Jordan but we know who was better on the court. I'm saying that Hendrick, despite having less money, is more dominant in Nascar. As far as open wheel, ratings don't lie, Nascar is doing much better and has been for some time.
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I do not dispute any of this, but NASCAR has been more favorable to Hendrick over the years than other owners. Penske's record in NASCAR has been hindered by the less competitive Dodges they are campaigning. I do dispute the assertion that Hendrick would own Penske in Indy car.
 
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615 Vol said:
Apparently you hate it when people treat you the same way you treat everyone else on here.
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no, i hate it when people say stupid things like Rousch and Hendrick would own Penske in open wheel cars.

oh, and Petty getting his car in the Indy 500 wasn't easy by any stretch of the imagination. in fact, with about 30 minutes to go in the final day of qualifying, it looked like he wasn't going to happen.
 
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doozer said:
no, i hate it when people say stupid things like Rousch and Hendrick would own Penske in open wheel cars.
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You're right, they wouldn't own Penske in open wheel. I went too far on that one but I do think that if either man decided to give open wheel a try they would be very successful. Have a nice day, doozer.
 
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doozer said:
yeah, the money has nothing to do with it. it's all about people who care and competition. forget the paycheck.
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Television has something to do with it. I'm sure Hendrick is perfectly more content being a champion owner in the Nascar Series than being an owner of a team that has a majority of its events on VERSUS.
 
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TennesseeFan07 said:
Television has something to do with it. I'm sure Hendrick is perfectly more content being a champion owner in the Nascar Series than being an owner of a team that has a majority of its events on VERSUS.
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yeah, great.

that comment was in relation to why drivers go from IRL to NASCAR, though.

and television = money.
 
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doozer said:
yeah, great.

that comment was in relation to why drivers go from IRL to NASCAR, though.

and television = money.
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The casual sports fan can name no more than probably 3 IRL drivers. They can name a whole lot more stock car drivers.
 
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TennesseeFan07 said:
The casual sports fan can name no more than probably 3 IRL drivers. They can name a whole lot more stock car drivers.
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you realize you just proved doozer's point?

it's not a competition thing that makes the move from IRL to NASCAR, it's a TV and money thing. The TV thing makes them more prominent and makes them more money.
 
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also, worth mentioning that throughout the world, the majority of drivers wind up in open wheel racing. Why aren't all the South Americans and Europeans going the NASCAR route?
 
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TennesseeFan07 said:
That was my point.
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that was my point too. so basically you just repeated what i said.

volfanbill said:
also, worth mentioning that throughout the world, the majority of drivers wind up in open wheel racing. Why aren't all the South Americans and Europeans going the NASCAR route?
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because the real money is in F1. NASCAR and IRL pay in peanuts compared to F1.
 
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doozer said:
because the real money is in F1. NASCAR and IRL pay in peanuts compared to F1.
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That and the fact that there are those in open wheel outside the US that still look down their nose at NASCAR. Call it taxi racing. In many countries there is no grass routes racing other than the open wheel route - karts, F-Ford, F-Atlantic, F- Mazda etc.
 
#41
#41
This is sad news, I rather enjoyed watching Jr tank every race, LOL. That prolly won't change but now fans will have to find another reason why he is still just an average driver.

Flame on Jr fans....
 
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but what if Tony Eury Jr really was the problem?
what if Rick Hendrick actually knows what he is doing?
what if Dale Jr turns his season around?
what if all you anti-Jr experts are wrong?
will there be anything to talk about if you are all wrong?
will Doozer still find a way to blame Jr?
 
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d4ster3 said:
but what if Tony Eury Jr really was the problem?
what if Rick Hendrick actually knows what he is doing?
what if Dale Jr turns his season around?
what if all you anti-Jr experts are wrong?
will there be anything to talk about if you are all wrong?
will Doozer still find a way to blame Jr?
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No doubt. It was only 2006 when he was in the chase and finished 5th in points. I don't think he forgot how to drive in 2 and 1/3 seasons. Just last season he started out as the strongest car at Hendrick until falling into his current slump. Jeff Gordon and Ryan Newman are recent drivers to go through a slump and even Dale Sr. had a dry spell before winning the Daytona 500 in 98. Maybe it is Dale Jr. but I agree with you, lets wait and see if he starts to run better before deciding if he is the problem or not.
 
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d4ster3 said:
but what if Tony Eury Jr really was the problem?
what if Rick Hendrick actually knows what he is doing?
what if Dale Jr turns his season around?
what if all you anti-Jr experts are wrong?
will there be anything to talk about if you are all wrong?
will Doozer still find a way to blame Jr?
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I'm not anti-Jr, and do not claim to be an expert. I actually like him as a person, but I do think the majority of his fans over rate him.

Hendrick definitely knows what he is doing.
 
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