I don't get it

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BIGORANGEINKY

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3rd and 12. Down 38-31. A pass to the flat just three yards beyond the line of scrimmage. As a matter of fact, hardly any downfield throws. I thought we had Cutcliffe back.:ermm:
 
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No kidding. I don't think that our veteran receivers are downfield threats. I think that is why they brought Vinson into the game, and he would have been open if we hadn't have been interfeared with once, and held the other time. If we don't get the younger receivers onto the field quickly then expect more losses this year. Lucas Taylor is the only one that showed any gamebreaking ability IMO.
 
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I thought the same thing for a second, but if you go back and look at the play they had us covered well. If ainge tries to force a deep ball it is picked and then we no chance of winning the game.
 
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3rd and 12. Down 38-31. A pass to the flat just three yards beyond the line of scrimmage. As a matter of fact, hardly any downfield throws. I thought we had Cutcliffe back.:ermm:

i dont think that was a designed play, that was probabely ainge's last option...
 
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i dont think that was a designed play, that was probabely ainge's last option...

Unfortunately your correct. We have no downfield threat to speak of. The offense was good enough to win the game. The L sits squarely on the Defense. They actually looked lost all night long. It was pathetic.
 
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Unfortunately your correct. We have no downfield threat to speak of. The offense was good enough to win the game. The L sits squarely on the Defense. They actually looked lost all night long. It was pathetic.

I disagree, I don't think it sits "squarely" on the D, our ST was terrible, deplorable, and something to be ashamed of... It has to get some of the blame also.
 
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I disagree, I don't think it sits "squarely" on the D, our ST was terrible, deplorable, and something to be ashamed of... It has to get some of the blame also.

I think our defense had a pretty good 1st half, really. The ST (and errant TD by their defense) put the D in a hole they didn't seem ready to climb out of. Did Hefney's cramps slow him up?

Also, how did Parrish do last night? I never noticed that McKenzie was in the game..but surely he got some time. I was worried about Parrish going into the game, but I didn't really notice what kind of night he had.
 
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I think our defense had a pretty good 1st half, really. The ST (and errant TD by their defense) put the D in a hole they didn't seem ready to climb out of. Did Hefney's cramps slow him up?

Also, how did Parrish do last night? I never noticed that McKenzie was in the game..but surely he got some time. I was worried about Parrish going into the game, but I didn't really notice what kind of night he had.

Parrish looked like sh*t IMO... He was beat twice for TDs but they passes were dropped. He didn't tackle well and wasn't in a position to make a play ALL night, which was supposed to be his strong suits. I wouldn't be disappointed if he went right back to the bench where he spent the prior 3 years.

Hef looked slowed to me, not like his normal self.

McKenzie only played on ST.
 
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Well then I stand corrected. I thought you were talking about the UT game. What ever game you watched I can't speak on but the UT defense was the reason we lost. The ST was not great but they were not the reason we lost. Not tackling, getting out of position all nite and playing with little to no discipline and over pursuit was the reason.
 
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i dont see why they dont go down the field to rogers or at least bring kenny oneal in on 3rd and long.
 
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Our offence will not be picking up very many 3rd and 12's this year. That is tough to do no matter who your WR's are, and we don't have the best. I'll put it simply, our offence is day old meatloaf. It's good enough to eat and get by on, but it aint a steak dinner and it never will be. Our defence and special teams looked like day old turds, and there isn't a chef in the world that can make day old turds look good.
 
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3rd and 12. Down 38-31. A pass to the flat just three yards beyond the line of scrimmage. As a matter of fact, hardly any downfield throws. I thought we had Cutcliffe back.:ermm:

A very concerning sign. I agree.
 
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Our offence will not be picking up very many 3rd and 12's this year. That is tough to do no matter who your WR's are, and we don't have the best. I'll put it simply, our offence is day old meatloaf. It's good enough to eat and get by on, but it aint a steak dinner and it never will be. Our defence and special teams looked like day old turds, and there isn't a chef in the world that can make day old turds look good.

Well, I'm hungry now.
 
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One more question. WTF are we doing punting the ball on 4th down when we are down 14?? Fill, grow a set and go for it. What's the worst that could happen, we don't get it and Cal gets the ball back? Who gives a fock if they score again. Losing by 21 is no different than 14. Go down swinging, not throwing in the damn towel.
 
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3rd and 12. Down 38-31. A pass to the flat just three yards beyond the line of scrimmage. As a matter of fact, hardly any downfield throws. I thought we had Cutcliffe back.:ermm:

It wasn't like he called a screen that was supposed to go to the back. He called downfield routes, EA looked at them and they weren't open. Our recievers are not good enough to get open downfield against good db's. Instead of forcing a throw into coverage Erik put the ball in the hands of somebody capable of making a play, even though it wasn't a first down it was probably the right decision on the OC and the QB's part. Not to mention the big pass plays we got last year were all on short routes that the reciever turned into big gains. This happened cause the Cal db's were trying to jump the short passes and made it easy for our guys to break tackles. Tedford taught them to keep the WR in front of them and to not give up the big play. He did a heck of job teaching his kids how to beat us, and I'm sure they worked like heck to get it done.
 
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One more question. WTF are we doing punting the ball on 4th down when we are down 14?? Fill, grow a set and go for it. What's the worst that could happen, we don't get it and Cal gets the ball back? Who gives a fock if they score again. Losing by 21 is no different than 14. Go down swinging, not throwing in the damn towel.


If we had picked up the first down it would not have changed the outcome of the game. I was mad about this at the time, but now I realize Fulmer just wanted to get out of Berkeley without any more injuries or further embarrassing his team or himself.
 
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If we had picked up the first down it would not have changed the outcome of the game. I was mad about this at the time, but now I realize Fulmer just wanted to get out of Berkeley without any more injuries or further embarrassing his team or himself.


You can't say that with certainty. What IF we went for it on 4th down, made a 1st, and score on the next play. We then onside kick. My point is, go down swinging, don't throw the towel in. IMO, that was the biggest embarrassment of the game. And before anyone sayd no way that we could have scored, onside kicked and recovered, scored again to tie it, let me remind you nobody in the nation would have predicted Appy State to beat Meechigan at the Big House either.
 
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