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TennesseeT

TennesseeT

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All of you for putting the entire blame on the coaching staff and somehow believing that is where it belongs. Were any of you college or even high school athletes or even play competitive sports today. When you lose it is because you didn't play well bottom line. For instance Hefney, a proven player all would say, for some reason has decided to shoulder tackle this year instead of wrapping up. Do you think he is coached that? No! Dropped passes are not the coaches fault, staying in lanes on special teams is not the coaches fault, fighting off blocks, etc. When you tell a punter, a proven punter all would say, to kick it out of bounds and he kicks it right to the person he's not supposed to is it the coaches fault. No! We all knew this team had questions all over the field and all hoped the questions marks would turn out to be positives. Guess what they haven't and it's because the players have been playing terribly. Quit searching for excuses and just admit the truth that this is not one of UT's better teams end of story.
 
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Coaches bear the brunt of the criticism. Especially at a school like UT. They are CEO's of a major money making machine.
 
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When the players aren't responding to coaching you find some that do. And how is play-calling a player's fault?
 
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TennesseeT said:
All of you for putting the entire blame on the coaching staff and somehow believing that is where it belongs. Were any of you college or even high school athletes or even play competitive sports today. When you lose it is because you didn't play well bottom line. For instance Hefney, a proven player all would say, for some reason has decided to shoulder tackle this year instead of wrapping up. Do you think he is coached that? No! Dropped passes are not the coaches fault, staying in lanes on special teams is not the coaches fault, fighting off blocks, etc. When you tell a punter, a proven punter all would say, to kick it out of bounds and he kicks it right to the person he's not supposed to is it the coaches fault. No! We all knew this team had questions all over the field and all hoped the questions marks would turn out to be positives. Guess what they haven't and it's because the players have been playing terribly. Quit searching for excuses and just admit the truth that this is not one of UT's better teams end of story.
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uhhhh.....this is the type of silliness that keeps people holding on to a staff too long. I've played one heckuva lot of sports at the HS and college level so don't assume lack of experience is driving my answer.

It is the coach's function to get his players to do what he's asking them to do. If they don't replace them or find a new technique for getting them to perform. A few losses here and there can be blamed on young kids not doing as they're told. However, what we've witnessed for the past 5-6 years is more than just an indicator - it's a full blown trend.

Make all the excuses you'd like regarding our current staff, but the truth is that they are no longer getting it done.
 
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Exactly who keeps putting guys who apparently don't follow orders back in games?
 
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It's not just this game or the current players. As I've stated on here before it's a trend. Previous games, previous players, previous seasons have all had similar problems. Poor Tackling( A trademark of a Chavis defense) Poor Special Teams (Fulmers Trademark). Yes players have to make plays, but the coaches must get them prepaired. To me this looks like '05 all over again. Only this time our Defense sucks.
 
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TennesseeT said:
All of you for putting the entire blame on the coaching staff and somehow believing that is where it belongs. Were any of you college or even high school athletes or even play competitive sports today. When you lose it is because you didn't play well bottom line. For instance Hefney, a proven player all would say, for some reason has decided to shoulder tackle this year instead of wrapping up. Do you think he is coached that? No! Dropped passes are not the coaches fault, staying in lanes on special teams is not the coaches fault, fighting off blocks, etc. When you tell a punter, a proven punter all would say, to kick it out of bounds and he kicks it right to the person he's not supposed to is it the coaches fault. No! We all knew this team had questions all over the field and all hoped the questions marks would turn out to be positives. Guess what they haven't and it's because the players have been playing terribly. Quit searching for excuses and just admit the truth that this is not one of UT's better teams end of story.
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The head coach is responsible for everything you just metioned and Fulmer would agree with me.
 
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TennesseeT said:
All of you for putting the entire blame on the coaching staff and somehow believing that is where it belongs. Were any of you college or even high school athletes or even play competitive sports today. When you lose it is because you didn't play well bottom line. For instance Hefney, a proven player all would say, for some reason has decided to shoulder tackle this year instead of wrapping up. Do you think he is coached that? No! Dropped passes are not the coaches fault, staying in lanes on special teams is not the coaches fault, fighting off blocks, etc. When you tell a punter, a proven punter all would say, to kick it out of bounds and he kicks it right to the person he's not supposed to is it the coaches fault. No! We all knew this team had questions all over the field and all hoped the questions marks would turn out to be positives. Guess what they haven't and it's because the players have been playing terribly. Quit searching for excuses and just admit the truth that this is not one of UT's better teams end of story.
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Several straight years of bad technique, bad schemes and poor motivation absolutely falls back on the coaches.

And several straight years of piss poor special teams absolutely falls back on the coaches.

Top 10 recruiting classes and top 3 in terms of players in the NFL should not equal outside of the top 25. Aggregiously deficient coaching is the ONLY answer. I'm glad that our problems are this easy to identify, frankly.
 
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TennesseeT said:
All of you for putting the entire blame on the coaching staff and somehow believing that is where it belongs. Were any of you college or even high school athletes or even play competitive sports today. When you lose it is because you didn't play well bottom line. For instance Hefney, a proven player all would say, for some reason has decided to shoulder tackle this year instead of wrapping up. Do you think he is coached that? No! Dropped passes are not the coaches fault, staying in lanes on special teams is not the coaches fault, fighting off blocks, etc. When you tell a punter, a proven punter all would say, to kick it out of bounds and he kicks it right to the person he's not supposed to is it the coaches fault. No! We all knew this team had questions all over the field and all hoped the questions marks would turn out to be positives. Guess what they haven't and it's because the players have been playing terribly. Quit searching for excuses and just admit the truth that this is not one of UT's better teams end of story.
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:lolabove::lolabove:Total crap! When your kid fails a class cause he didn't do his homework is it his/her fault for being lazy? Or is it your fault for not instilling the values of hard work and ethics? Same goes for football you teach the kids the game, you pound it into they're freaking heads. You teach them discipline and techinque and if they still sont get it you, MAKE THEM GET IT! None of the players on this team fear the coaching staff the way they should. Im not talking about Hitler fear or anything but there should be a feeling of discipline not buddy-buddy.
 
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Okay beef... I have been waiting on your evaluation of the game. Regardless of our spats I do respect your opinions......
 
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I still feel this team has talent and whether or not it's the coaches fault this team lacks desire and motivation to be good.
 
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well you can say the players are playing badly, but ummm how predictible are our play calls? We have no spark in our offense or defense. With the changes in football and seeing other teams in the SEC watching our plays seems like im watching a re-run of a bad football show, and that my friends is the coaches fault,,,
 
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I've blamed the players for the past five years...

They've come and gone.

Phil and co. are still here and nothing has changed.
 
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BPV, I'm pretty sure if we add up all of the athletic experience on this board it will be more than sufficient to qualify us to speak as to the intricacies of team sports. Conversely, the experience in competitive environments and the management of personnel among the Fulmerites would be hard pressed to fill a thimble. Nothing like watching the clueless and naive try to hang on to a rotting administration.
 
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TennesseeT said:
All of you for putting the entire blame on the coaching staff and somehow believing that is where it belongs. Were any of you college or even high school athletes or even play competitive sports today. When you lose it is because you didn't play well bottom line. For instance Hefney, a proven player all would say, for some reason has decided to shoulder tackle this year instead of wrapping up. Do you think he is coached that? No! Dropped passes are not the coaches fault, staying in lanes on special teams is not the coaches fault, fighting off blocks, etc. When you tell a punter, a proven punter all would say, to kick it out of bounds and he kicks it right to the person he's not supposed to is it the coaches fault. No! We all knew this team had questions all over the field and all hoped the questions marks would turn out to be positives. Guess what they haven't and it's because the players have been playing terribly. Quit searching for excuses and just admit the truth that this is not one of UT's better teams end of story.
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There is no way on Gods green earth you could have liked the way our coaching staff prepared or called that game, NO WAY.
 
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All of you for putting the entire blame on the coaching staff and somehow believing that is where it belongs. Were any of you college or even high school athletes or even play competitive sports today. When you lose it is because you didn't play well bottom line. For instance Hefney, a proven player all would say, for some reason has decided to shoulder tackle this year instead of wrapping up. Do you think he is coached that? No! Dropped passes are not the coaches fault, staying in lanes on special teams is not the coaches fault, fighting off blocks, etc. When you tell a punter, a proven punter all would say, to kick it out of bounds and he kicks it right to the person he's not supposed to is it the coaches fault. No! We all knew this team had questions all over the field and all hoped the questions marks would turn out to be positives. Guess what they haven't and it's because the players have been playing terribly. Quit searching for excuses and just admit the truth that this is not one of UT's better teams end of story.
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I'd like to know what exactly you think a coach is responsible for. There's a reason they bring such a high price tag. There's a reason that the right coaching change can resurrect a dead program.
 
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CPF had nothing to do with our loss he is responsible for bringing the Gatorade which was COOL BERRY FROST this week.
 
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crimedawg12 said:
Okay beef... I have been waiting on your evaluation of the game. Regardless of our spats I do respect your opinions......
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You made me blush!


I will give my review shortly. Right now I'm about to chew a couple staff members asses for a mess up.
 
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Sorry but I just don't see anyone getting it done with this group. I don't see any NFL caliber players on this team and that doesn't happen often. I thought Mayo and Hefney were for sure but they are both having terrible years. Ainge will not make it in the pros. Colquitt maybe!
 
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What, you mean you're not just going to golf clap and hope they do better next time? How dare you hold people accountable?
 
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TennesseeT said:
Sorry but I just don't see anyone getting it done with this group. I don't see any NFL caliber players on this team and that doesn't happen often. I thought Mayo and Hefney were for sure but they are both having terrible years. Ainge will not make it in the pros. Colquitt maybe!
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The coaches do the recruiting don't they?
 
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TennesseeT said:
Sorry but I just don't see anyone getting it done with this group. I don't see any NFL caliber players on this team and that doesn't happen often. I thought Mayo and Hefney were for sure but they are both having terrible years. Ainge will not make it in the pros. Colquitt maybe!
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Look man, I like Fulmer. But he will be the first to tell you this is his team and there for he is responsible for what occurs with it. Good, bad and ugly.
 
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