I challenge anybody to defend Derek Dooley.

#26
#26
You're right, you don't judge him based on one game. He was terrible last year, he was just as bad, or worse, this year.
 
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#27
Merlot said:
The program was nuked the Monday before homecoming against Wyoming in 2008. The sooner you rascals figure that out, the sooner we start winning some games around here.

TO THE HILL!!!
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Oh, I am firmly in the "Fulmer should have been canned three years before he was" camp.
 
#28
#28
the only positive today was dooley's hair...perfect as usual and his pants looked sick!!!:rock: if you want to keep tradition Dooley keep the tradiition of WINNING!!
 
#29
#29
Dooley has had an entire season like today. THAT, not today, as humiliating and disappointing as today was, is why people have given up on Derek Dooley. In two years, he has never risen above mediocrity and has never given people a reason to believe that he is anything other than what he has always been-- a coach with a losing record who fails to get the best out of his players or his staff. Someday, he may grow into a good coach, but he isn't one now and he won't last long enough to be one here.
 
#30
#30
1 positive... He looked pretty handsome in that underarmor under his UT sweatshirt thing.... *no homo*
 
#32
#32
Let's see:
Worst kicking game in program history.
One of the worst running games in program history.
Atrocious offensive playcalling, gameday decisions and usage of offensive personnel.
Losing to one of the worst UK teams in recent memory with a third string QB.

Yeah I got nothing.
 
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milohimself said:
It can absolutely get worse. Right now, UT is on track to find a suitable replacement for Dooley for 2013 or 2014. Dude can't coach a lick but his recruiting efforts seem to be at least setting the table for the next guy. On top of that, Fulmer's buyout should be up by then and Dooley's should be manageable.

If he gets fired now, all of that gets supremely ****ed up, possibly irreversibly.
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Sorry Milo, you know I'm a fairly level headed guy, but I'm not buying it. Dooley has lost this team, imo. Today was a justification of my initial assessment of CDD before I decided to give him a shot: he is in over his head.
 
#38
#38
It's hard to dislike Dooley,funny guy,seemingly quality human being...but my gosh its getting hard to defend him...when a BAD Kentucky team takes a guy that has never played college QB and beats you,it makes CDD's myriad of excuses that much harder to stomach...that being said,this program desperately needs stability,we need to stick it out at least another season,maybe two
 
#40
#40
EVeone knows it's too soon to run him out of town but feels he has shown enough that he isn't going to do any better than he has been. So we have to wait for year three to see. You really can't fire anybody after 2 years unless they totally lose the team like ole miss went through. So we will know by the bama game next year where we stand.
 
#41
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JayVols said:
Sorry Milo, you know I'm a fairly level headed guy, but I'm not buying it. Dooley has lost this team, imo. Today was a justification of my initial assessment of CDD before I decided to give him a shot: he is in over his head.
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I thought so too from the beginning, but I had hopes that he would be able to succeed. I readily admit that's not the case.

I just have yet to see anybody make a single valid point as to why it would be good to fire Dooley right now while addressing the myriad of issues it would present.

But what happens if we fire him now? UT fires him, has to pay his $5mil buyout, becomes financially insolvent between that and lost ticket sales and donations, can't afford to hire anybody better, the roster and recruiting efforts of the last two years are nuked, we start at year zero again but in an even bigger financial hole and before you know it the Vols are in the midst of a 20 year championship drought.

It's been said since his hiring, the best realistic expectations of Dooley are a handful of decent recruiting classes and wait out his and Fulmer's buyout so we can bring in somebody good. That's still possible if he stays on for another year. This is all penance for Fulmer being afforded the kind of job security that was once only reserved for Bobby Bowden and JoePa.
 
#42
#42
I believe the Vols will do better next year. At least 7 wins, but it wont be because of great coaching. It will be because of all our young players having that year of experience under their belts. Dooley and company will not however get this team to the point of being an elite force in the SEC. I only hope for the best...its going to be a long off-season....
 
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milohimself said:
I thought so too from the beginning, but I had hopes that he would be able to succeed. I readily admit that's not the case.

I just have yet to see anybody make a single valid point as to why it would be good to fire Dooley right now while addressing the myriad of issues it would present.

But what happens if we fire him now? UT fires him, has to pay his $5mil buyout, becomes financially insolvent between that and lost ticket sales and donations, can't afford to hire anybody better, the roster and recruiting efforts of the last two years are nuked, we start at year zero again but in an even bigger financial hole and before you know it the Vols are in the midst of a 20 year championship drought.

It's been said since his hiring, the best realistic expectations of Dooley are a handful of decent recruiting classes and wait out his and Fulmer's buyout so we can bring in somebody good. That's still possible if he stays on for another year. This is all penance for Fulmer being afforded the kind of job security that was once only reserved for Bobby Bowden and JoePa.
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I dont buy the arguement we cannot afford to pay someone. our athletic program makes more money than most and we have people with deep pockets who could easily make this happen. the real problem is no one wanted this job after fulmer and no one wanted it after kiffin. this is just the facts. Fire dooley now and you arent going to see big name coaches lining up to take the job.

Like it or not dooley gets at least one more year and if he fails, you make calls and see if there is anyone proven who would take the job under these circumstancea. Hart will have his work cut out for him to find the right guy to get this ship moving in the right direction. his job security is based on the state of the football program.
 
#45
#45
LA Vol said:
Dooley has had an entire season like today. THAT, not today, as humiliating and disappointing as today was, is why people have given up on Derek Dooley. In two years, he has never risen above mediocrity and has never given people a reason to believe that he is anything other than what he has always been-- a coach with a losing record who fails to get the best out of his players or his staff. Someday, he may grow into a good coach, but he isn't one now and he won't last long enough to be one here.
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Mediocrity?
 
#46
#46
milohimself said:
I thought so too from the beginning, but I had hopes that he would be able to succeed. I readily admit that's not the case.

I just have yet to see anybody make a single valid point as to why it would be good to fire Dooley right now while addressing the myriad of issues it would present.

But what happens if we fire him now? UT fires him, has to pay his $5mil buyout, becomes financially insolvent between that and lost ticket sales and donations, can't afford to hire anybody better, the roster and recruiting efforts of the last two years are nuked, we start at year zero again but in an even bigger financial hole and before you know it the Vols are in the midst of a 20 year championship drought.

It's been said since his hiring, the best realistic expectations of Dooley are a handful of decent recruiting classes and wait out his and Fulmer's buyout so we can bring in somebody good. That's still possible if he stays on for another year. This is all penance for Fulmer being afforded the kind of job security that was once only reserved for Bobby Bowden and JoePa.
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I like your level head on this matter. But, would you agree with firing Dooley if Urban Meyer or Chris Peterson told Dave Hart they wanted to coach for UT? Doesn't have to be one of those two guys, but a sure fire winner, get what i'm saying? Just wondering what you think about this particular situation. If not for a sure fire winner, we can not fire Dooley, that's the camp i'm in.
 
#47
#47
Well lets see... He kept his cool while getting it handed to him by KY, and a WR at QB.
 
#49
#49
I can't beleive Brodus is not kicking. The coaching staff really blew that IMO! Plardy blows! That and the o- line getting worse are my biggest problems. Fire the kicking coach and the o- line coach today!!!
 
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