I believe in the fans of UT

[orangepeopleeater]

I have read many posts on Volnation the last couple days and many barbs back and forth about Coach Dooley. The damage to the program is done and it has been done for a while now. It was from Fulmers downfall, to Kiffin skipping town for USC. I know Vol fans are upset about the past few years and not to proud of the results of 2011. Hey, after the Kentucky game I was ready to throw my TV in the front yard. The one thing that is a silver lining is the passion of the fan base. People can say a lot of negative posts can be used against the program, but that goes on in every program in the country. The truth is the anger and complaining between the fans of Tennessee shows the love and compassion they have for the college. If it was quiet on here after the last couple of seasons I would be worried. I remember an athlete once said that he loved the boos, it meant people were paying attention and were passionate about the sport. Its just the same here. If recruits look for negative they will find the negative, but if they look at the love and admeration the fans feel for this team. They will see that the fussing and arguing is due to the respect and honor they see in the University of Tennessee.

 

[kiddiedoc]

We are hungry, that's for sure. While I agree that the evident passion of the fanbase shows that we will not go down without a fight, I also think that there is too much blame-(mis)placing and finger-pointing going on. Dooley wants to win as much as we do, and I think we can all agree that he was dealt a crappy hand. 2012 will be his proving ground, for sure.

 

[UTChicagoV]

Agree 100% with your post. Healthy debate is almost always constructive. What I don't understand and never will is the fact that there are some fans that want to be right so bad that they are actually happy when negative things happen or hope for the worst in situations. :no:

 

[jmkvols]

orangepepoleeater, I hope to see you in Atlanta Labor Day weekend. I'll be cheering on the my Vols.

 

[VOLorNuttin]

The bottom line is this. No proud and prestigious program should accept mediocrity. The moment it does, then it becomes the next Vandy, Ky, and Duke.

Where there is pain, there is a shout. People have different pain thresholds, so why all this ridicule between one side and the other? Why do people who think Dooley should have more time, insult those who think he was a bad hire in the first place, who only expect gradual improvement, and think it's better to stop the bleeding now? Why does the latter deserve derogatory titles (ie, village idiots, NegaVols, etc.) for thinking change is better now, rather than later?

That is negative, juvenile and stupid, to rip into your own fanbase because they have a differing opinion about the coaches.

 

[kevol80]

I too like healthy discussion and debate. Some people on here just aren't good at either.

We have some excellent posters that I always look forward to reading. It's a shame that they are almost always overshadowed by the trolls.


EDIT: That being said, thanks Freak for the best forum on the internet, (even with the trolls).

 

[VOLorNuttin]

Agree 100% with your post. Healthy debate is almost always constructive. What I don't understand and never will is the fact that there are some fans that want to be right so bad that they are actually happy when negative things happen or hope for the worst in situations. :no:

It's a misconception to think that fans who see the program headed in the wrong direction, actually WANT more of the same.

Fulmer is a good example. I was among the many who felt it was high time for him to go. His recent recruiting classes had become abysmal, and so was the product on the field.

Those of us who were calling for his job were roasted just like those of us who believe Dooley has lost control of this team and that a change should be made, get roasted from some of the fanbase here...as being NegaVols or village idiots, etc.

We are just calling it like we see it. I was thoroughly disappointed in his hiring, to start with. In my book, his losing resume coming in, was enough to put him on a very short leash.

You give 3-5yrs to a coach who has PROVEN they can win. You want to give them enough time to affect change. But a coach like Dooley? No. If he can't show SOME improvement, then you don't give him the chance to do to your program what he did elsewhere. It's a simple equation and a simple deduction.

Coach w/ losing record + 2yrs + further decline + best coaches leaving (sinking ship) = time to pull the ejection handles.

 

[UTChicagoV]

It's a misconception to think that fans who see the program headed in the wrong direction, actually WANT more of the same.

Fulmer is a good example. I was among the many who felt it was high time for him to go. His recent recruiting classes had become abysmal, and so was the product on the field.

Those of us who were calling for his job were roasted just like those of us who believe Dooley has lost control of this team and that a change should be made, get roasted from some of the fanbase here...as being NegaVols or village idiots, etc.

We are just calling it like we see it. I was thoroughly disappointed in his hiring, to start with. In my book, his losing resume coming in, was enough to put him on a very short leash.

You give 3-5yrs to a coach who has PROVEN they can win. You want to give them enough time to affect change. But a coach like Dooley? No. If he can't show SOME improvement, then you don't give him the chance to do to your program what he did elsewhere. It's a simple equation and a simple deduction.

Coach w/ losing record + 2yrs + further decline + best coaches leaving (sinking ship) = time to pull the ejection handles.

I have no problem with people calling it like it is, and believe me, I was just as disappointed with the lost to Kentucky as anyone.

But I've seen in the last two days, more posts about how individuals are excited that Wilcox/Sirmon leaving would lead to Dooley's dismissal or excitement that those same coaches leaving would lead to lost recruits.

I honestly think that our program is better from a position of depth and talent than when Dooley came in. If Kiffin would have stayed, I do think we would have been better last year, but that has a lot to do with the fact that we would not have had to pull together the 2010 class. Dooley has done a good job of plugging the holes in the depth chart with SEC talent. I think whomever takes the DC job is walking into a great situation.

Also, we were hit with some injuries to the top talent on our offense. We'll have those players back and ready to go in 2012 along with Another excellent recruiting class seems to be in store even with the loss of coaches and that will only add to the talent level of this team.

I think that the last few years we have gone through at UT unprecedented for any program not hit by sanctions. From the numerous coaching changes, to the player attrition, to the injuries. But the time for excuses has come to and end, I for one expect and demand a season of not only improvement, but one that brings us back into the hunt for the SEC East...we have the talent, depth, a schedule that is much easier than 2011, upper class leadership, and what I would hope a very hungry team. :hi:

 

[GATechVOL]

It's a misconception to think that fans who see the program headed in the wrong direction, actually WANT more of the same.

Fulmer is a good example. I was among the many who felt it was high time for him to go. His recent recruiting classes had become abysmal, and so was the product on the field.

Those of us who were calling for his job were roasted just like those of us who believe Dooley has lost control of this team and that a change should be made, get roasted from some of the fanbase here...as being NegaVols or village idiots, etc.

We are just calling it like we see it. I was thoroughly disappointed in his hiring, to start with. In my book, his losing resume coming in, was enough to put him on a very short leash.

You give 3-5yrs to a coach who has PROVEN they can win. You want to give them enough time to affect change. But a coach like Dooley? No. If he can't show SOME improvement, then you don't give him the chance to do to your program what he did elsewhere. It's a simple equation and a simple deduction.

Coach w/ losing record + 2yrs + further decline + best coaches leaving (sinking ship) = time to pull the ejection handles.

VolNation thanks you for making it all clear for us. We don't know what to do without you.

Bolding random words in sentences too doesn't help.

 

[kevol80]

Bolding random words in sentences too doesn't help.

How can you be so sure?

 

[big harry]

The bottom line is this. No proud and prestigious program should accept mediocrity. The moment it does, then it becomes the next Vandy, Ky, and Duke.

Where there is pain, there is a shout. People have different pain thresholds, so why all this ridicule between one side and the other? Why do people who think Dooley should have more time, insult those who think he was a bad hire in the first place, who only expect gradual improvement, and think it's better to stop the bleeding now? Why does the latter deserve derogatory titles (ie, village idiots, NegaVols, etc.) for thinking change is better now, rather than later?

That is negative, juvenile and stupid, to rip into your own fanbase because they have a differing opinion about the coaches.

They were showing improvement until things happened other than Dooley sucking. We have NOT given the man a fair shake yet. Running coaches off before that happens will give you a rep that will make good coaches with other options avoid your program. u dum.

 

[cosmos24]

It's a misconception to think that fans who see the program headed in the wrong direction, actually WANT more of the same.

Fulmer is a good example. I was among the many who felt it was high time for him to go. His recent recruiting classes had become abysmal, and so was the product on the field.

Those of us who were calling for his job were roasted just like those of us who believe Dooley has lost control of this team and that a change should be made, get roasted from some of the fanbase here...as being NegaVols or village idiots, etc.

We are just calling it like we see it. I was thoroughly disappointed in his hiring, to start with. In my book, his losing resume coming in, was enough to put him on a very short leash.

You give 3-5yrs to a coach who has PROVEN they can win. You want to give them enough time to affect change. But a coach like Dooley? No. If he can't show SOME improvement, then you don't give him the chance to do to your program what he did elsewhere. It's a simple equation and a simple deduction.

Coach w/ losing record + 2yrs + further decline + best coaches leaving (sinking ship) = time to pull the ejection handles.[/QUOTE

It doesn't matter who came in here,with the circumstances dooley inherited after the kiffin mess no way we would be setting much better at this point in time. We are lucky to actually have a chance at top 20 classes 3 years in a row considering all the bad luck. You people need to think just what all has happened and sleep on it.