I am infuriated about my game day experience

Well, I’m certainly not the usher. I don’t even know his name, but he has always treated me as well as I could ask for. I was just trying to add my perspective to an incident that I actually witnessed from 10 rows back. I am on the isle right above the usher. Maybe 20feet. It has been correctly pointed out that I did not hear a word of what was said and I do not know how many people were standing when it started. I was reacting to the body language and the situation as I saw it. As for the “kid”, anyone still in their 20’s is a kid to me.

Sorry if my observations did not fit your pre conceived notions of what happened.

“Respect breeds respect” very well said. It is and will always be a two way street.

This isn’t the first clash of a right to stand crusader and someone who wishes they could see the game from their seat and I imagine it won’t be the last.
 
Sorry if my observations did not fit your pre conceived notions of what happened.

My notion of what happened isn't preconceived. I am the "kid" that you are insinuating was drunk and being a problem.

I can assure you, I was trying to be respectful but got none of that in return. I am a professional, and I know how to act like one. The ushers on that occasion did not. Does that mean they are terrible people... not in the least. I am just saying that the reason the situation got carried over the top had nothing to do with me. I was asking legitimate questions in a calm and respectful manner... and did not get like treatment in return.

I also like how you assumed that my "girlfriend" wanted me to sit down and shut up. My wife, to whom you were referring, was probably more pissed off about the whole situation than I was.

I don't fault you for having a perspective... just don't throw it out there with all sorts of unsubstantiated innuendo. You are not going to be taken seriously that way, and you are likely to be flamed by other posters for it.
 
Standing or sitting over the top drunks are obnoxious. I don't like to babysit and watch out for idiots when I go to games. Have your drinks if you so desire and have great time, but don't act like a fool. Like the other night a guy was drunk as a skunk and left in the third quarter with an eleven year old child to DRIVE take him home.He should have been punched in the back of the head perhaps.
 
Last year I attended the first game of the season, even though less than three months earlier I had undergone a 4 vessel cardiac artery bypass grafting (quadruple heart bypass surgery, where they saw your sternum - breastbone - in half) I am not "middle-aged". I was 63 years old at the time. We sat in the nosebleed section and my son was very concerned that I not "over-do" it. He actually escorted me out of the stands a couple of times because I insisted on going to the concession stand and I HAD to go to the restroom.
1.) I stood when everybody else did and cheered for my vols (3rd down on defense or whatever.)
2.) I also stood and cheered on the rare occassion when WKU scored, because I graduated from there 40 years ago. I wore one of my many Vol t-shirts and carried two hats - one red one orange - and donned each at different points in the game. We had fun and nobody around us complained about anything.
3.) When the Pride of the Southland band played Western's fight song, I sang along. By the way their fight song is "STAND UP and cheer" same as Ohio U, another game I saw last year. Kind of ironic. I love "Rocky Top" but perhaps the substance of their fight song should be reviewed for some of the uninformed ushers at Neyland.
4.) I attended 4 games at Neyland last year, after my heart surgery. I stood and cheered throughout most of the game at all 4. And I didn't leave until I sang the Tennessee Walze with the band at the end.
5.) The OP in the current scenario is my son, he is an adult, he was sitting with a guy he has been buddys with since elementary school, he is married, he is a college graduate and currently working on a graduate degree. He is 6'5" and muscular, but has never been a bully. He is not perfect, but I have never seen or heard of him disrespecting an "older person", even in his rebel years which have long passed. He's a "yes sir, no mam" kind of guy. He normally respects anyone in authority, though he is man enough to question stupidity. If he says the ushers turned their name badges around, cussed them and refused to identify themselves, you can take it to the bank. The usher may have been having a bad. Sorry, old fellow, you have to learn to act and speak in a professional manner - even when you don't feel like it.
6.) Which is worse - paid employees of the university breaking stated rules (language) and acting immature or fans doing what fans do . . . and within the rules. The ushers and the cop should have been kicked out.
7.) I'm not JUST taking up for "m'boy". He is plenty capable of doing that...and from reading this thread (or whatever you call it - at my age I just discovered that a "post" can be something besides what holds up a fence OR a pass pattern in football) I believe he has done a darn good job of stating his case. (In a very respectful way, he'll probably say, "Dad. Why'd you do that?" when he reads this.)

I'm done. Have fun! Y'all are free to roast this Senior Citizen who is a huge VOLS fan. Maybe more than most of y'all. Especially considering I grew up in KY and did not attend UT, except for a continuing education class or two. Just be respectful. I'm probably much older than the couple who couldn't see because some folks a few rows in front of them were standing at the 'bama game... and I AM a heart patient!
OF COURSE I'm biased. I wasn't there. I may not really be my son's father, but he does look like me. I could be a Alabubba fan or a Vandy grad or a high school sophomore...so you don't have to post any of those possible senarios now. Besides, if you burn me I probably won't read it anyway - at my age I'll probably forget how to get on this dadgum contraption by the time you reply.
NOW I'm done!
 
Last year I attended the first game of the season, even though less than three months earlier I had undergone a 4 vessel cardiac artery bypass grafting (quadruple heart bypass surgery, where they saw your sternum - breastbone - in half) I am not "middle-aged". I was 63 years old at the time. We sat in the nosebleed section and my son was very concerned that I not "over-do" it. He actually escorted me out of the stands a couple of times because I insisted on going to the concession stand and I HAD to go to the restroom.
1.) I stood when everybody else did and cheered for my vols (3rd down on defense or whatever.)
2.) I also stood and cheered on the rare occassion when WKU scored, because I graduated from there 40 years ago. I wore one of my many Vol t-shirts and carried two hats - one red one orange - and donned each at different points in the game. We had fun and nobody around us complained about anything.
3.) When the Pride of the Southland band played Western's fight song, I sang along. By the way their fight song is "STAND UP and cheer" same as Ohio U, another game I saw last year. Kind of ironic. I love "Rocky Top" but perhaps the substance of their fight song should be reviewed for some of the uninformed ushers at Neyland.
4.) I attended 4 games at Neyland last year, after my heart surgery. I stood and cheered throughout most of the game at all 4. And I didn't leave until I sang the Tennessee Walze with the band at the end.
5.) The OP in the current scenario is my son, he is an adult, he was sitting with a guy he has been buddys with since elementary school, he is married, he is a college graduate and currently working on a graduate degree. He is 6'5" and muscular, but has never been a bully. He is not perfect, but I have never seen or heard of him disrespecting an "older person", even in his rebel years which have long passed. He's a "yes sir, no mam" kind of guy. He normally respects anyone in authority, though he is man enough to question stupidity. If he says the ushers turned their name badges around, cussed them and refused to identify themselves, you can take it to the bank. The usher may have been having a bad. Sorry, old fellow, you have to learn to act and speak in a professional manner - even when you don't feel like it.
6.) Which is worse - paid employees of the university breaking stated rules (language) and acting immature or fans doing what fans do . . . and within the rules. The ushers and the cop should have been kicked out.
7.) I'm not JUST taking up for "m'boy". He is plenty capable of doing that...and from reading this thread (or whatever you call it - at my age I just discovered that a "post" can be something besides what holds up a fence OR a pass pattern in football) I believe he has done a darn good job of stating his case. (In a very respectful way, he'll probably say, "Dad. Why'd you do that?" when he reads this.)

I'm done. Have fun! Y'all are free to roast this Senior Citizen who is a huge VOLS fan. Maybe more than most of y'all. Especially considering I grew up in KY and did not attend UT, except for a continuing education class or two. Just be respectful. I'm probably much older than the couple who couldn't see because some folks a few rows in front of them were standing at the 'bama game... and I AM a heart patient!
OF COURSE I'm biased. I wasn't there. I may not really be my son's father, but he does look like me. I could be a Alabubba fan or a Vandy grad or a high school sophomore...so you don't have to post any of those possible senarios now. Besides, if you burn me I probably won't read it anyway - at my age I'll probably forget how to get on this dadgum contraption by the time you reply.
NOW I'm done!

:eek:lol::rock::dance2::clapping::salute::thumbsup::rock::dance::dance::dance:
WELL SAID SIR!!! And because I know you and the OP quite well... I can assure all nay sayers out there that you are indeed a 65 (now) yr old heart patient (I saw the fresh scar) and that your son is one of the biggest teddy bear, yes sir/ yes ma'am, respect authority, graduate student, former athlete, NOT A DRUNK, nicest BIGGEST (literally and figuratively) TENNESSEE VOLUNTEER FANS out there. You have every right to be proud of you son ~ He has handled himself well!
 
fyp

False starts and miscommunications can happen on any down, not just 3rd. When our defense is on the field, we should be supporting them with noise.

This is true. But if one prefers to sit most of the time, at least stand on defensive 3rd downs is my point. At the game Saturday, to my left X2 and beyond was pretty much all standing. To my right, from R through Q were doing good, some in the inzone, and of course the student section, but on the 40-50, where the majority of the plays were and right behind the team, no noise.
 
This is true. But if one prefers to sit most of the time, at least stand on defensive 3rd downs is my point. At the game Saturday, to my left X2 and beyond was pretty much all standing. To my right, from R through Q were doing good, some in the inzone, and of course the student section, but on the 40-50, where the majority of the plays were and right behind the team, no noise.

I got you now. I see people at every game that never seem to move. I almost questioned whether attendance had gotten so bad that they were bringing in mannequins to fill the seats. :) I know the product on the field isn't helping with a lot of people... but they still need support. I go to the high school games where I live even though I didn't go to school anywhere near here. Why? Cause the team needs to know that its fans and community are there for it. I am worried that Knoxville and Vol Nation are starting to slack a bit too much.
 
I got you now. I see people at every game that never seem to move. I almost questioned whether attendance had gotten so bad that they were bringing in mannequins to fill the seats. :) I know the product on the field isn't helping with a lot of people... but they still need support. I go to the high school games where I live even though I didn't go to school anywhere near here. Why? Cause the team needs to know that its fans and community are there for it. I am worried that Knoxville and Vol Nation are starting to slack a bit too much.
I totally agree with you... As a former athlete I know it was important to me to see and hear that support. And I was raised to be loyal regardless... Even in hard times. If you can't support your team when times are tough then...... Well?
 
I got you now. I see people at every game that never seem to move. I almost questioned whether attendance had gotten so bad that they were bringing in mannequins to fill the seats. :) I know the product on the field isn't helping with a lot of people... but they still need support. I go to the high school games where I live even though I didn't go to school anywhere near here. Why? Cause the team needs to know that its fans and community are there for it. I am worried that Knoxville and Vol Nation are starting to slack a bit too much.
And times get tough FOR EVERYONE... EVERY TEAM!
 
I myself usually cheer the Vols on from my seat. I do tend to stand during a big play or when the band is bringing the team out but when that is over I sit back down. I usually attend the game with my wife and our 6 year old son and people standing right in front of us has caused an issue before. I was actually told once as I asked a guy standing in front of my son to please sit down as he could not see....he told me to get him a high chair or I should hold him. I then did proceed to sit this guy down myself. Ushers were called and he was warned to stay in his seat or he would be removed. A person can cheer on their Vols seated just as well as standing. Only thing is while seated....you won't get your head busted. :hi:
 
I myself usually cheer the Vols on from my seat. I do tend to stand during a big play or when the band is bringing the team out but when that is over I sit back down. I usually attend the game with my wife and our 6 year old son and people standing right in front of us has caused an issue before. I was actually told once as I asked a guy standing in front of my son to please sit down as he could not see....he told me to get him a high chair or I should hold him. I then did proceed to sit this guy down myself. Ushers were called and he was warned to stay in his seat or he would be removed. A person can cheer on their Vols seated just as well as standing. Only thing is while seated....you won't get your head busted. :hi:

The situation you are talking about is completely different. If the person behind me had asked me to sit down so their kid could see... I would have sat. Isn't the kids fault that he is short and can't see even if he were standing. The people who complained about the OP and myself however were several rows behind us and had no small children. They did not appear incapable of standing and enjoying the game... just unwilling to do so.

By your bolded statement though, you might have a future as an usher :)
 
ut needs to fire all these morons or thugs working as ushers who think they can go around ordering people like slaves and acting like jerks.
 
I myself usually cheer the Vols on from my seat. I do tend to stand during a big play or when the band is bringing the team out but when that is over I sit back down. I usually attend the game with my wife and our 6 year old son and people standing right in front of us has caused an issue before. I was actually told once as I asked a guy standing in front of my son to please sit down as he could not see....he told me to get him a high chair or I should hold him. I then did proceed to sit this guy down myself. Ushers were called and he was warned to stay in his seat or he would be removed. A person can cheer on their Vols seated just as well as standing. Only thing is while seated....you won't get your head busted. :hi:

Oh Lawdy! you be Mr. Billy Badazz!
 
Tobacco smoke gives me a headache, and I am grateful that Tennessee has made smoking illegal in public venues. The people running these events are supposed to make sure that no one smokes, otherwise they are violating the law also.
When the game ended there were about 10 to 15 Alabama fans around section ZZ who were smoking 6 to 8 inch long cigars. I asked several to stop citing the Tennessee law and was ignored. The smoke stank and carried over 100 feet. There were no ushers or security police anywhere around as I left the stadium, having to smell this smoke the whole way out.
Apparently it is now wrong for a Vol fan to support the Vols by standing and cheering, but it is ok to violate state law if you are a fan of an opposing team. What the **** is going on here? Is Mike Hamilton deliberately sabotaging UT's football program?

when you quoted Tennessee law, did you yell
'Citizen's Arrest, Citizen's Arrest"
 
"... and I don't smoke, text, read, wear cologne, spit, chew, scratch my crotch, drink, stand, scream, use a shaker, yell, clap, cuss, talk, spill drinks, eat, blow my nose, or leave my seat until the end of the 3rd quarter.

Sometimes I take off my radio headphones when my ears start hurting"
 
The situation you are talking about is completely different. If the person behind me had asked me to sit down so their kid could see... I would have sat. Isn't the kids fault that he is short and can't see even if he were standing. The people who complained about the OP and myself however were several rows behind us and had no small children. They did not appear incapable of standing and enjoying the game... just unwilling to do so.

By your bolded statement though, you might have a future as an usher :)

UTLawVol - Next game you and the wife dress as Muslims. I doubt anyone will tell you to sit down and if they do just tell the ushers and the cops that there are a bunch of racist redneck hatemongering islamaphobes harassing you. Problem solved! You can even stash a load of mini bottles in her burqua for halftime.
 
The OP is obviously a fine Vol and raised by an exceptional human being. Can anyone get us the ushers name and/or head usher to call/e-mail complaints? I'd be happy to raise my voice.
 
Anyone who pays $70 to watch this joke on the field should be allowed to stand the whole game. Plus, coolers of beer should be allowed in as well because I can't watch this team without a drink.
 
My notion of what happened isn't preconceived. I am the "kid" that you are insinuating was drunk and being a problem.

I can assure you, I was trying to be respectful but got none of that in return. I am a professional, and I know how to act like one. The ushers on that occasion did not. Does that mean they are terrible people... not in the least. I am just saying that the reason the situation got carried over the top had nothing to do with me. I was asking legitimate questions in a calm and respectful manner... and did not get like treatment in return.

I also like how you assumed that my "girlfriend" wanted me to sit down and shut up. My wife, to whom you were referring, was probably more pissed off about the whole situation than I was.

I don't fault you for having a perspective... just don't throw it out there with all sorts of unsubstantiated innuendo. You are not going to be taken seriously that way, and you are likely to be flamed by other posters for it.

Last year I attended the first game of the season, even though less than three months earlier I had undergone a 4 vessel cardiac artery bypass grafting (quadruple heart bypass surgery, where they saw your sternum - breastbone - in half) I am not "middle-aged". I was 63 years old at the time. We sat in the nosebleed section and my son was very concerned that I not "over-do" it. He actually escorted me out of the stands a couple of times because I insisted on going to the concession stand and I HAD to go to the restroom.
1.) I stood when everybody else did and cheered for my vols (3rd down on defense or whatever.)
2.) I also stood and cheered on the rare occassion when WKU scored, because I graduated from there 40 years ago. I wore one of my many Vol t-shirts and carried two hats - one red one orange - and donned each at different points in the game. We had fun and nobody around us complained about anything.
3.) When the Pride of the Southland band played Western's fight song, I sang along. By the way their fight song is "STAND UP and cheer" same as Ohio U, another game I saw last year. Kind of ironic. I love "Rocky Top" but perhaps the substance of their fight song should be reviewed for some of the uninformed ushers at Neyland.
4.) I attended 4 games at Neyland last year, after my heart surgery. I stood and cheered throughout most of the game at all 4. And I didn't leave until I sang the Tennessee Walze with the band at the end.
5.) The OP in the current scenario is my son, he is an adult, he was sitting with a guy he has been buddys with since elementary school, he is married, he is a college graduate and currently working on a graduate degree. He is 6'5" and muscular, but has never been a bully. He is not perfect, but I have never seen or heard of him disrespecting an "older person", even in his rebel years which have long passed. He's a "yes sir, no mam" kind of guy. He normally respects anyone in authority, though he is man enough to question stupidity. If he says the ushers turned their name badges around, cussed them and refused to identify themselves, you can take it to the bank. The usher may have been having a bad. Sorry, old fellow, you have to learn to act and speak in a professional manner - even when you don't feel like it.
6.) Which is worse - paid employees of the university breaking stated rules (language) and acting immature or fans doing what fans do . . . and within the rules. The ushers and the cop should have been kicked out.
7.) I'm not JUST taking up for "m'boy". He is plenty capable of doing that...and from reading this thread (or whatever you call it - at my age I just discovered that a "post" can be something besides what holds up a fence OR a pass pattern in football) I believe he has done a darn good job of stating his case. (In a very respectful way, he'll probably say, "Dad. Why'd you do that?" when he reads this.)

I'm done. Have fun! Y'all are free to roast this Senior Citizen who is a huge VOLS fan. Maybe more than most of y'all. Especially considering I grew up in KY and did not attend UT, except for a continuing education class or two. Just be respectful. I'm probably much older than the couple who couldn't see because some folks a few rows in front of them were standing at the 'bama game... and I AM a heart patient!
OF COURSE I'm biased. I wasn't there. I may not really be my son's father, but he does look like me. I could be a Alabubba fan or a Vandy grad or a high school sophomore...so you don't have to post any of those possible senarios now. Besides, if you burn me I probably won't read it anyway - at my age I'll probably forget how to get on this dadgum contraption by the time you reply.
NOW I'm done!


I know you've vented this past week, and this thread was your voice, but have you contacted the Athletic Department
I'd like to know what they told you
 
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Went to the JawJa game this year. My seats were on the 50 yd line lower section. The people around me were all middle aged and up. I think I sat for all of 10 plays. Even in the fourth quarter when the game was over their fans continued to stand. Maybe we could learn something from our rivals.
 
Good grief....8 pages and almost 400 replies to this? Lots of first time posters, too. Curious, but that's beside the point.

Look, this is very simple. I've been attending UT games for over 40 years and haven't seen or experienced something like this, but maybe it's because the folks in my section know how to behave and respect others? When the folks in front of me stand, I stand. When the folks in front of me sit, I sit...out of respect for the folks behind me. Doesn't make me any less of a fan or less supportive. My mouth continues to work sitting and standing. I won't force someone to stand because I think they should in order to show their support of the team nor will I ask someone to sit if they'd prefer to stand. I would hope that if the folks in front of them are sitting that they might consider sitting so that the folks behind them who may or may not have that inclination to stand aren't forced to do so. It's just common sense and decency. The golden rule in action I suppose you could say. This is such a ridiculous thread. Sounds like a bunch of spoiled middle school kids witching amongst each other. Sheese.
 
Good grief....8 pages and almost 400 replies to this? Lots of first time posters, too. Curious, but that's beside the point.

Look, this is very simple. I've been attending UT games for over 40 years and haven't seen or experienced something like this, but maybe it's because the folks in my section know how to behave and respect others? When the folks in front of me stand, I stand. When the folks in front of me sit, I sit...out of respect for the folks behind me. Doesn't make me any less of a fan or less supportive. My mouth continues to work sitting and standing. I won't force someone to stand because I think they should in order to show their support of the team nor will I ask someone to sit if they'd prefer to stand. I would hope that if the folks in front of them are sitting that they might consider sitting so that the folks behind them who may or may not have that inclination to stand aren't forced to do so. It's just common sense and decency. The golden rule in action I suppose you could say. This is such a ridiculous thread. Sounds like a bunch of spoiled middle school kids witching amongst each other. Sheese.

You are obviously not a true fan. Rational thinking has no place in the life of a true fan. You need your azz beat by a true fan.
 
Good grief....8 pages and almost 400 replies to this? Lots of first time posters, too. Curious, but that's beside the point.

Look, this is very simple. I've been attending UT games for over 40 years and haven't seen or experienced something like this, but maybe it's because the folks in my section know how to behave and respect others? When the folks in front of me stand, I stand. When the folks in front of me sit, I sit...out of respect for the folks behind me. Doesn't make me any less of a fan or less supportive. My mouth continues to work sitting and standing. I won't force someone to stand because I think they should in order to show their support of the team nor will I ask someone to sit if they'd prefer to stand. I would hope that if the folks in front of them are sitting that they might consider sitting so that the folks behind them who may or may not have that inclination to stand aren't forced to do so. It's just common sense and decency. The golden rule in action I suppose you could say. This is such a ridiculous thread. Sounds like a bunch of spoiled middle school kids witching amongst each other. Sheese.


Common sense isn't that common.
 

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