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Spartacavolus

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-the last of the culture of losing, and poor leadership is gone. If a few still remain, tell them to take off.
-Dooley's classes of high character players will not accept losing and will get it turned around as upperclassmen. The necessity of upperclassmen leadership on the field cannot be understated.
-DD is evaluating and will make adjustments or changes. To himself or his staff. The offense, gameplan, and playcalling must change and will, or at least flip over to the back side of page 1.
-We will land a really good recruiting class
-We will be a faster team next year
-We will be able to kick the ball
-We will be better next year. If not, DD will be on the way out. It will take care of itself.

We all want the program to be back. Some of us have differing opinions as to what will help or hinder the process. We also have differing opinions as to if DD can get it done. Me, I don't know. What I do know is that the quickest way to be back is for DD to be able to do it with his 2 classes and the class coming in. Another change in HC right now isn't the way. I'll reiterate, right now.
 
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I hope you're right pl, but I would be willing to wager that Hart will be working the back channels and getting his ducks in a row for 2013. Everything you listed must see dramatic improvement and Coach Dooley can't miss on anything on that list for next year. Coach Dooley has spent up all the house money and now it's do or die time.
 
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pl3 said:
-the last of the culture of losing, and poor leadership is gone. If a few still remain, tell them to take off.
-Dooley's classes of high character players will not accept losing and will get it turned around as upperclassmen. The necessity of upperclassmen leadership on the field cannot be understated.
-DD is evaluating and will make adjustments or changes. To himself or his staff. The offense, gameplan, and playcalling must change and will, or at least flip over to the back side of page 1.
-We will land a really good recruiting class
-We will be a faster team next year
-We will be able to kick the ball
-We will be better next year. If not, DD will be on the way out. It will take care of itself.

We all want the program to be back. Some of us have differing opinions as to what will help or hinder the process. We also have differing opinions as to if DD can get it done. Me, I don't know. What I do know is that the quickest way to be back is for DD to be able to do it with his 2 classes and the class coming in. Another change in HC right now isn't the way. I'll reiterate, right now.
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not what I hear
 
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Domestic Silence said:
That's what worries me. Everything coming out is that the young guys are the ass clowns in the locker room.
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Young guys usually are, but there are usually upperclassmen that handle it on the field or in the locker room. That's part of a team dynamic that UT didn't and doesn't have at this time. Now, who are the new sr leaders? Z rogers and P waggner? Leaders must step up in the spring, and I think some of these teenagers no longer being teenagers will help.
 
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The infighting is typical of a team lacking senior leadership. Our team was beat-up and still extremely young, and we played like it yesterday. Those in the know, knew it would take time to rebuild depth and it wouldn't be a quick fix. When you start talking about changing coaches, ask yourself who wants to inherit a young team for a school that produces very little in-state D1 talent, in the toughest conference, while suffering the effects from a coaching carousel. The grim answer is NO ONE - if so, we would have hired them before Dooley.
I like Dooley and think he is a great fit for our proud university. Hamilton got us into this mess with his classless handling of Fulmer and knee-jerk hiring of Kiffin. Terminating anyone on the coaching staff will only prolong the recovery.
My suggestion is to stop panicking and help support our boys through the toughest of times.

GO VOLS!
 
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To say "Dooley ... is a great fit for our proud university." is an insult to Fulmer, Majors, Dickey, and all the great coaches we've had in the past. Listen to what the players are saying. E.g., Tauren Poole on the Kentucky game: "The whole game, no one wanted to be out there.." Note how Dooley disrespects the players wearing orange (Bray's play was "lethargic"), and never takes the full blame himself. On the live threads for the past few games, I see comment after comment that UT's players are apathetic, have no spirit, seem disinterested in whether they win or lose.

That is all on the coaches. Bottom line: Dooley, with his inept coaching and his attitude toward the players, lost this team halfway through the season. Who among the returning players will be eager for another season of Derek Dooley? None. Dooley a "great fit"? No, more like a dead man walking...
 
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albedo33 said:
To say "Dooley ... is a great fit for our proud university." is an insult to Fulmer, Majors, Dickey, and all the great coaches we've had in the past. Listen to what the players are saying. E.g., Tauren Poole on the Kentucky game: "The whole game, no one wanted to be out there.." Note how Dooley disrespects the players wearing orange (Bray's play was "lethargic"), and never takes the full blame himself. On the live threads for the past few games, I see comment after comment that UT's players are apathetic, have no spirit, seem disinterested in whether they win or lose.

That is all on the coaches. Bottom line: Dooley, with his inept coaching and his attitude toward the players, lost this team halfway through the season. Who among the returning players will be eager for another season of Derek Dooley? None. Dooley a "great fit"? No, more like a dead man walking...
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Like I said, we all have different opinions and yours is different than mine. He has been saying "we" since yesterday. Not they or them. I don't have a problem with that. I realize some want him to come out and say "it's all my fault, etc.", and that's cool, but the fact is that its not all his fault. It's everybody's. This team and players has lacked personal accountability for years now and that's what DD is trying to demand. It's prevalent with Pooles and Austin's parting shots. They ran their mouths in frustration and blamed it on the other guys on the team. That is the epitomy of what DD and staff are in the middle of trying to change. I think some of you are just too soft and worried about a coach "calling" a kid out just by stating the obvious of what we all see. If you want smoke blown up your ass, you definitely don't want Dooley.
Last, enough with the "lost the team" crap after watching the locker room after the vandy game. That's ridiculous.
 
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Could be worst Sr. class ever that is leaving?

2008 5-7
2009 7-6
2010 6-7
2011 5-7

Losing becomes contagious. Hopefully turning a new leaf where winning becomes contagious again.
 
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pl3 said:
Like I said, we all have different opinions and yours is different than mine. He has been saying "we" since yesterday. Not they or them. I don't have a problem with that. I realize some want him to come out and say "it's all my fault, etc.", and that's cool, but the fact is that its not all his fault. It's everybody's. This team and players has lacked personal accountability for years now and that's what DD is trying to demand. It's prevalent with Pooles and Austin's parting shots. They ran their mouths in frustration and blamed it on the other guys on the team. That is the epitomy of what DD and staff are in the middle of trying to change. I think some of you are just too soft and worried about a coach "calling" a kid out just by stating the obvious of what we all see. If you want smoke blown up your ass, you definitely don't want Dooley.
Last, enough with the "lost the team" crap after watching the locker room after the vandy game. That's ridiculous.
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We all have different opinions, but you call everyone who didn't agree with your opinion a moron or worse.
Then spin everything when it turns out you were wrong.
 
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oklavol said:
We all have different opinions, but you call everyone who didn't agree with your opinion a moron or worse.
Then spin everything when it turns out you were wrong.
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Wrong. I just don't like moaners and whiners like you and others. Still stuck in a time warp.
I'm not convinced Dooley is the man yet, and haven't been, so why would I care if people disagree? Answer that one please.
And let me know what I was wrong about and started "spinning".

The guy was saying that DD was always blaming the players. DD said that it starts with the coaches. That's not disagreeing with an opinion, its correcting a factless statement.
 
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albedo33 said:
To say "Dooley ... is a great fit for our proud university." is an insult to Fulmer, Majors, Dickey, and all the great coaches we've had in the past. Listen to what the players are saying. E.g., Tauren Poole on the Kentucky game: "The whole game, no one wanted to be out there.." Note how Dooley disrespects the players wearing orange (Bray's play was "lethargic"), and never takes the full blame himself. On the live threads for the past few games, I see comment after comment that UT's players are apathetic, have no spirit, seem disinterested in whether they win or lose.

That is all on the coaches. Bottom line: Dooley, with his inept coaching and his attitude toward the players, lost this team halfway through the season. Who among the returning players will be eager for another season of Derek Dooley? None. Dooley a "great fit"? No, more like a dead man walking...
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Please....you and everyone else would have wanted Majors fired when he started the season 0 and 6....
 
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pl3 said:
Wrong. I just don't like moaners and whiners like you and others. Still stuck in a time warp.
I'm not convinced Dooley is the man yet, and haven't been, so why would I care if people disagree? Answer that one please.
And let me know what I was wrong about and started "spinning".

The guy was saying that DD was always blaming the players. DD said that it starts with the coaches. That's not disagreeing with an opinion, its correcting a factless statement.
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You come in here for the entire season and rip on anyone who doesn't blame everything on youth and inexperience then when UT ends 5-7 you want to do a 180 act like you have been questioning the coaching staff all along. A bigger man admits when he's wrong, and we all make mistakes. But if you are just going to pretend it didn't happen, you should just crawl back under the rock you crawled out from.
 
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oklavol said:
You come in here for the entire season and rip on anyone who doesn't blame everything on youth and inexperience then when UT ends 5-7 you want to do a 180 act like you have been questioning the coaching staff all along. A bigger man admits when he's wrong, and we all make mistakes. But if you are just going to pretend it didn't happen, you should just crawl back under the rock you crawled out from.
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What are you talking about? I'm behind Dooley. I don't know that he'll make it. I need to see if we get better, and how we do when his young recruits are upperclassmen. I support him and hope he makes it.

Not one time on here have I said that this coaching staff has even had a decent year. Not once. I've been calling out mistakes on here weekly, and have been on Chaney's ass since last year.
There is no 180. You just have a very hard time comprehending things on this site and I see it happen with you and other posters. My stance hasn't changed from day one. I'm just more pissed now and expect there to be significant changes with the OC. Dooley's future is 100% dependent on the performance of his OC next year.
 
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This thread brought me out of a day of depression...

2012 and beyond will reward the people who stuck with the program and DD when the lights were flickering and going out. The others will get crap ass seats at the first big home win we have ,or maybe the cable will go out on them duriing,since I doubt they get off of their fat asses to go watch in person anyway..
 
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Sounds good. All you can do is hope for the best and support them next year. The world keeps turning. No use in crying over spilled milk, but they also need to make some serious adjustments. I'm thinking the Kentucky game was a huge realization and was probably the final rip of the band-aid. Time to let it breathe.
 
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