I am an anarchist - ask me anything.

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n_huffhines said:
This all you got? I don't have to tell you how pathetic this is, right?
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How so? Because you were wrong?

The only thing wrong with the Post Office is the Unions. Eliminate Unions and the post office could be profitable.
 
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#302
n_huffhines said:
This all you got? I don't have to tell you how pathetic this is, right?
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you said it was a service we could get privately and he pointed a clear cut case of when it isn't. I also know they won't deliver to the street my grandfather and a couple uncles live on, but the postal service will. the same level of services are not offered.
 
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hog88 said:
How so? Because you were wrong?

The only thing wrong with the Post Office is the Unions. Eliminate Unions and the post office could be profitable.
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Wrong about what exactly?

You're talking out of turn. The last paragraph has nothing to do with any point I made.

The point is that the government tries to supply us with gods and services that the market can supply. You said the market doesn't deliver mail. I said that's only the case because it's illegal. Then you started talking about Alaska.

You're better than this.
 
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#305
LouderVol said:
you said it was a service we could get privately and he pointed a clear cut case of when it isn't. I also know they won't deliver to the street my grandfather and a couple uncles live on, but the postal service will. the same level of services are not offered.
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OMG, people.

Just because you know of a place where Fedex currently doesn't deliver doesn't mean that the market wouldn't deliver there in the absence of the USPS.

There are places the post office won't deliver.
 
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#306
LouderVol said:
i am saying I personally will not use the interstate in California (or whatever random state) yet my federal tax dollars go just as much to them (whatever state) as it does mine.
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You use stuff that traveled those interstates to get to you.
 
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n_huffhines said:
OMG, people.

Just because you know of a place where Fedex currently doesn't deliver doesn't mean that the market wouldn't deliver there in the absence of the USPS.

There are places the post office won't deliver.
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I know that FedEx/UPS wouldn't economically deliver letters to remote areas thus isolating people who want to live there.

You anarchist want to preach freedom from government and having the ability to live as you see fit, yet you want to essentially limit where people can live and subject them to corporate decisions.
 
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#308
These threads always remind me of this:

FRANCIS: We're gettin' in through the underground heating system here, up through into the main audience chamber here, and Pilate's wife's bedroom is here. Having grabbed his wife, we inform Pilate that she is in our custody and forthwith issue our demands. Any questions?

COMMANDO XERXES: What exactly are the demands?

REG: We're giving Pilate two days to dismantle the entire apparatus of the Roman Imperialist State, and if he doesn't agree immediately, we execute her.

MATTHIAS: Cut her head off?

FRANCIS: Cut all her bits off. Send 'em back on the hour every hour. Show them we're not to be trifled with.

REG: Also, we're demanding a ten foot mahogany statue of the Emperor Julius Caesar with his dock hangin' out.

P.F.J.: laughing

LORETTA: What? They'll never agree to that, Reg.

REG: That's just a bar-- a bargaining counter. And of course, we point out that they bear full responsibility when we chop her up, and that we shall not submit to blackmail!

COMMANDOS: No blackmail!

REG: They've bled us white, the bastards. They've taken everything we had, and not just from us, from our fathers, and from our fathers' fathers.

LORETTA: And from our fathers' fathers' fathers.

REG: Yeah.

LORETTA: And from our fathers' fathers' fathers' fathers.

REG: Yeah. All right, Stan. Don't labour the point. And what have they ever given us in return?!

XERXES: The aqueduct?

REG: What?

XERXES: The aqueduct.

REG: Oh. Yeah, yeah. They did give us that. Uh, that's true. Yeah.

COMMANDO #3: And the sanitation.

LORETTA: Oh, yeah, the sanitation, Reg. Remember what the city used to be like?

REG: Yeah. All right. I'll grant you the aqueduct and the sanitation are two things that the Romans have done.

MATTHIAS: And the roads.

REG: Well, yeah. Obviously the roads. I mean, the roads go without saying, don't they? But apart from the sanitation, the aqueduct, and the roads--

COMMANDO: Irrigation.

XERXES: Medicine.

COMMANDOS: Huh? Heh? Huh...

COMMANDO #2: Education.

COMMANDOS: Ohh...

REG: Yeah, yeah. All right. Fair enough.

COMMANDO #1: And the wine.

COMMANDOS: Oh, yes. Yeah...

FRANCIS: Yeah. Yeah, that's something we'd really miss, Reg, if the Romans left. Huh.

COMMANDO: Public baths.

LORETTA: And it's safe to walk in the streets at night now, Reg.

FRANCIS: Yeah, they certainly know how to keep order. Let's face it. They're the only ones who could in a place like this.

COMMANDOS: Hehh, heh. Heh heh heh heh heh heh heh.

REG: All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?

XERXES: Brought peace.

REG: Oh. Peace? Shut up!

bam bam bam bam bam bam bam

bam bam bam bam bam

MATTHIAS: I am a poor man. My sight is poor. My legs are old and bent, and--

JUDITH: It's all right, Matthias.

MATTHIAS: It's all clear.

JUDITH: Well, where's Reg?

FRANCIS: Oh, Reg. Reg, it's Judith.

REG: What went wrong?

JUDITH: The first blow has been struck!

REG: Did he finish the slogan?

JUDITH: A hundred times, in letters ten foot high, all the way around the palace!

REG: Oh, great. Great. We-- we need doers in our movement, Brian, but, before you join us, know this. There is not one of us here who would not gladly suffer death to rid this country of the Romans once and for all.

COMMANDO: Uhh. Well, one.

REG: Oh, yeah. Yeah, there's one, but otherwise, we're solid. Are you with us?

BRIAN: Yes!

REG: From now on, you shall be called 'Brian that is called Brian'. Tell him about the raid on Pilate's palace, Francis.

FRANCIS: Right. This is the plan...
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#309
#309
hog88 said:
I know that FedEx/UPS wouldn't economically deliver letters to remote areas thus isolating people who want to live there.

You anarchist want to preach freedom from government and having the ability to live as you see fit, yet you want to essentially limit where people can live and subject them to corporate decisions.
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You don't know that. This entire post is nonsense. You're on a real bad streak. Take 5.
 
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BTW, Hog....say it costs the federal government $10M annually to deliver mail to a town of 100. You like this outcome?
 
#312
#312
hog88 said:
Uh, yes I do. No fing way a corporation is going to haul a single letter 100 miles for pennies 6 days per week.
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Who says it has to be 6 days per week for pennies? Try to think outside the world you live in.
 
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#315
its ok we get throw off the shackles of our current oppression and then we move into huffs and companies version of paradise. you don't like their paradise well then i guess you are a government loving oppressionist.

right now huff doesn't trust the government because they make money off of us. his solution is to trust corporations who will make money off of us. and it is better because we don't get to vote and will let the free market decide what i can and can not get, instead of using my choice of what to get now.
 
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LouderVol said:
its ok we get throw off the shackles of our current oppression and then we move into huffs and companies version of paradise. you don't like their paradise well then i guess you are a government loving oppressionist.

right now huff doesn't trust the government because they make money off of us. his solution is to trust corporations who will make money off of us. and it is better because we don't get to vote and will let the free market decide what i can and can not get, instead of using my choice of what to get now.
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Where do you come up with this stuff? I didn't call anarchy paradise. I didn't call you a government-loving oppressor. That's not the reason I don't trust government, nor have I ever said that.

Just make up points for the opposition and then you don't have to actually argue what they say.
 
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#318
SamRebel35 said:
There are 89 companies that own a combined 114,000 towers. American tower and crown castle each have around 39,000 towers.
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So, without government control, Verizon buys 75,000 of them and forbids anyone else from using them. Can you hear me now?
 
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n_huffhines said:
That's not true. Speak on things you know. The government has passed a law that UPS and FedEx can't deliver courier mail, because that would make the USPS completely obsolete.

The market wants to supply courier service. It's not allowed. :p
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exactly. They have a government backed monopoly
 
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#321
n_huffhines said:
Where do you come up with this stuff? I didn't call anarchy paradise. I didn't call you a government-loving oppressor. That's not the reason I don't trust government, nor have I ever said that.

Just make up points for the opposition and then you don't have to actually argue what they say.
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i am sorry what else do you call a place where war disappears, freedom is not restricted in any manner, no taxes, no limits on corporate expansion and somehow the average joe isn't oppressed and life improves dramatically for all? the smart alec answer is anarchy, i used paradise because utopia has already been rejected for application in this effort.
 
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Gramps said:
That loses money every year
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Thanks to stupid rules that force it to fund it's retirement program at the beginning of a new fiscal year.

Government unions are among the worst ideas ever. Even FDR didn't want them.
 
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LouderVol said:
i am sorry what else do you call a place where war disappears, freedom is not restricted in any manner, no taxes, no limits on corporate expansion and somehow the average joe isn't oppressed and life improves dramatically for all? the smart alec answer is anarchy, i used paradise because utopia has already been rejected for application in this effort.
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Who promised those things?

The reason why you can't stay on topic is because you don't know how to take on the points that are actually made. If anarchy is so preposterous, then you should be able to easily defeat the arguments that people put forth.
 
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