Hypocritical, or not?

Do you support the hiring of Hugh Freeze as OC?

  • yes

    Votes: 420 89.2%

  • no

    Votes: 51 10.8%
  • Total voters
    471
  • Poll closed .
#52
#52
volfannbama said:
Schiano Sunday took place because if his ties to Penn St. It had nothing to do with his coaching abilities. Now, there may have been people that didnt want him because of that, but that was not the cause of what took place. I cant believe thats even being debated.

Has far as freeze, I dont care if we hire him or not because of what he did. He would be a great hire. But there is a zero percent chance of that happening.

The "allegedly" stuff, it's scary times in our country when an accusation means assumed guilt. A lady accused a lacrosse team of raping her. Women claimed a supreme court nominee sexually assualted them. All are now proven false. Your choice of what you want ti decide your criteria for a coach should be.
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That is BS. Schiano Sunday took place because of the W/L record and the fact that our fanbase viewed it as another cheap and bad hire. The PSU stuff was just cover (With that being said, Schiano, Wolken, and UTAD did themselves a huge dis-service by not getting out in front of the PSU allegations).

If we had pried Urban Meyer away from OSU, it would have been celebrated heavily on here and Urban is an awful human being....
 
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GAVol said:
Really don't think the Schiano revolt was as much about Penn State as it was that people just thought he was a weak choice. THEN they latched onto the Penn State stuff to reinforce why he was a bad choice.
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I think it was some of both but there's a lot of truth here. There was questions about his coaching ability, his personality/fit, and the Penn State thing. Too much to overcome and just a bad freaking choice which really highlighted the University's incompetence in hiring coaches.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
That is BS. Schiano Sunday took place because of the W/L record and the fact that our fanbase viewed it as another cheap and bad hire. The PSU stuff was just cover (With that being said, Schiano, Wolken, and UTAD did themselves a huge dis-service by not getting out in front of the PSU allegations).

If we had pried Urban Meyer away from OSU, it would have been celebrated heavily on here and Urban is an awful human being....
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Yeah, ok buddy...lol
 
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#60
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BigOrangeMojo said:
If we had hired James Franklin, would have there been protests since he covered up a rape or would have Franklin's W/L record been enough to overcome that?

If we had hired Brian Kelly, would have there been protests since a kid died under his watch or was his W/L record good enough to overcome that?
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Dont know, we didnt try to hire him..
 
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#63
BigOrangeMojo said:
If we had hired James Franklin, would have there been protests since he covered up a rape or would have Franklin's W/L record been enough to overcome that?

If we had hired Brian Kelly, would have there been protests since a kid died under his watch or was his W/L record good enough to overcome that?
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Yes.
 
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volfannbama said:
Schiano Sunday took place because if his ties to Penn St. It had nothing to do with his coaching abilities. Now, there may have been people that didnt want him because of that, but that was not the cause of what took place. I cant believe thats even being debated.
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I stopped right there.

Allegedly.

Until you prove it, I'm done here.
 
#67
#67
volfannbama said:
How so what? Just thought it was interesting. It.stuck out amoung all those posters complaining about Schinaos win loss record. You saw them? Yeah, me neither.
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Some complained about the pedo stuff. Some about his demeanor. Others about another "yankee" as coach.

He was a bad choice. Still is.
 
#68
#68
aaronvol said:
Long term it's not a good hire. have to sit in a living room with mommas and answer questions about taking care of their sons. You don't want that to be a large part of the conversation.
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I was talking to my wife about this very thing. She's a momma of of two sons. I explained his scandal. Her reply was "if his wife can forgive him, I don't see how anyone else should have a problem."
 
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Behr said:
I stopped right there.

Allegedly.

Until you prove it, I'm done here.
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Posted several pic of the protest, funny none of the signs mentioned is win loss record or coaching abilities. Im.sure there were tons.


Remember when the guy at nc state entered the discussion and some.fans asked if we could protest.it and the common sentiment was no will look silly and turn off coach because the schiano protest wasnt about.coaching ability.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Would love to actually hear from someone who said or voted no.

At the end of the day, only crazy people brought up the Penn State stuff. The majority of the fan base didn’t want Schiano because he’s a horrible coach ...
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If he's a horrible coach, how did he do such a great job at Rutgers?
 
#71
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McDad said:
Some complained about the pedo stuff. Some about his demeanor. Others about another "yankee" as coach.

He was a bad choice. Still is.
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I agree he was a bad choice. But let's stop acting like the protest was over coaching ability.
 
#72
#72
volfannbama said:
How so what? Just thought it was interesting. It.stuck out amoung all those posters complaining about Schinaos win loss record. You saw them? Yeah, me neither.
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the loudest person in the room is not always speaking for the majority, just means they are the loudest.
 
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Vfl2407 said:
One hired prostitutes.
One, allegedly, allowed child rape to continue.
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To be totally fair, Sciano's baggage was more than the deposition that he knew about the child rapes and did nothing. Sciano's record as a head coach was mediocre to average. Moreover, his college coaching career was at Rutgers in the northeast so know SEC experience. Finally, his stent as a NFL coach at Tampa Bay was worse than Saban's at Miami. Most of the team loathed his coaching style, and he ended up fired. Yes, the allegations are terrible, but to me in the end the man was innocent until proven guilty. For some reason, there has been no further action against Sciano. What we have seen is no other offers to him to HC elsewhere or even on an interim basis during Meyer's suspension.
 
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#75
volfannbama said:
I agree he was a bad choice. But let's stop acting like the protest was over coaching ability.
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it depends on who your talking to. everyone should know where i stood/stand at this point. but lets stop acting like the voice of the majority was heard on this.
 
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