Hyams ... Florida vs UT

#26
#26
phowell23 said:
Jimmy Hyams still misses this guy as he still defends him today:

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Oh that's a tough look...too bad he didn't coach many of his teams to play that way
 
#27
#27
QUOTE=notaguru2;2693836]You realize he got his start covering LSU, right? Nothing about him has anything to do with the Vols. He's never played football and never coached. The only thing he knows about the game is what other people tell him. In the end, he basically just spews what someone else says and tries claim it as his own. This is why he is notoriously late with his scoops, and frequently inaccurate.

There is ZERO journalistic value in everything he says.[/QUOTE]

I would not give Him a zero... I think a -0 is more like it :hi:
 
#28
#28
HilltopperVol89 said:
Just said on 104.5 outta Nashville that we wouldn't score more than 3 points saturday. Why put this Jack@ss on the radio? He pisses me off everytime I hear him speak.

Talk about Tebow having a chip on his shoulder because kiffin calling his daddy/coach a cheater is nothing compared to the chip the vols should have due to the fact that noone thinks they can win this one. Admittedly so, the vols must find holes in that "spectacular" defense that troy had their way with in the first quarter. Crompton just needs to calm down and play Tennessee football, not trying to make plays out of horrible situations. The moment he starts doing that is when we will start beating the teams we are supposed to beat and the teams noone else thinks we can beat.

I don't see florida winning by more than ten. Florida is going to have to run (which is what we want them to do) most plays because they don't have any harvins, and I personally believe our secondary is top notch. Our D should love their matchups if they look at them very closely.
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you dont see Florida winning by more than 10? Are you Stevie Wonder?
 
#29
#29
V-O-L-S said:
The fact is that no one knows much about either of these teams. I personally think a lot of the spread has to do with the comments by Kiffin. (i.e. Florida beat Georgia last year 49-10 after they were "disrespected") Truth is Troy and Charleston Southern were not tough teams, but Florida was VERY vanilla. Tennessee played one game against WKU where they played well at times and one horrible game offensively against UCLA. Personally, I think the game is a lot closer than "experts" think because Tennessee won't play as bad as they did against UCLA. Can't wait to see what happens.
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The spread from a book makers point of view is reasonable. You take a Florida team returning everybody but Harvin who beat us at some by 24 last year. Everyone now knows we have serious QB issues, yet another offensive scheme and are playing at Florida.

Take last year's spread of 24, factor in 6 point swing for being in Florida you get 30, then take into consideration the other elements of the now known QB issue and learning curve of the new system and 30 seems a pretty good number from a betting perspective.

I'll take it because:
a. This staff does not let us have the special teams break downs of the last couple of years...no TDs for Brandon James
b. Now that Kiffin knows Crompton's limitations against good teams, he'll play call differently so I don't think we'll see the turnovers we saw last week and last year at FL
c. Our run game will be more effective than last year
d. Our defense might be better, not enough info yet, but we all know that Chavis couldn't stop an option offense to save his neck

We'll lose, but it won't be by 30 points.
 
#32
#32
If the Vol faithful can believe that we do have a chance, however small, we at least got to have to belive theres a chance also in Crompdaddy to have a good game.
 
#34
#34
am i missing something here?

when was the last time tennessee ran the ball well against florida?

when was the last time tennessee ran the ball against a quality opponent?

why am i supposed to be concerned about tennessee's running game again?
 
#35
#35
i wonder what Florida fans are going to do the rest of the year? After tomorrow they will have nothing to talk about, nor will ESPN, they might have to do some actual reporting, wow
 
#36
#36
The betting line is set in order to ensure approximately equal amounts of money bet on each team. Since the house gets a cut of all bets, the house always wins if there is an equal amount of money bet on each team. The line gets adjusted to even things out. The people setting the line don't give a rip about who wins nor by how much if they get an equal amount bet on each team. So, it's utter foolishness to get indignant about a betting line, ever. Might as well set out to argue with every one of the thousands of people betting on the game....

Regardless, I think the Vols are better than conventional wisdom holds and the Gators are not as good. Here's hoping for a good entertaining game at least -
 
#37
#37
we would have beat ucla if we hadnt been favorites wee dont play well as favorites but in the last 25 years tennessee always plays good when they are given no chanch by the oter coaches the meadia and other schools fans in 85 we were big under dogs and we got mad and beat miami in a game no one else ever mentioned the possibility that ut could win but they hit testaverda so much he was wanting his mama,so if flordia is looking past this game like we are no better than troy then i think we would surely have a good shot to win ,dont be laughing and talking about what your going to do after the game yet ,actually do and if the oline can play a little better and we can run the ball and crompton dont throw more than 1 pick and have no fumbles and cause the gators some to then anything is possible on any given day ,i wouldnt watch the game if i thought there was no way possible to win ,but even if we lose im hoping for improvement from last week and every week the remainder of the season and then the kiffen era will start getting everyone excieted ,even if flordia dont overlook tennessee and they win we have to finish the season stong instead of falling apart and then next year in knoxville tennessee will beat flordia 37- 14 to start a 8 game winning streak against the gators because they have been down for a few seasons but within 5 years ut will have 3 sec east titals and 2 sec championship game titals and in the bcs and an ncaa tital or 3 or more in next 10 years
 
#38
#38
we would have beat ucla if we hadnt been favorites wee dont play well as favorites but in the last 25 years tennessee always plays good when they are given no chanch by the oter coaches the meadia and other schools fans in 85 we were big under dogs and we got mad and beat miami in a game no one else ever mentioned the possibility that ut could win but they hit testaverda so much he was wanting his mama,so if flordia is looking past this game like we are no better than troy then i think we would surely have a good shot to win ,dont be laughing and talking about what your going to do after the game yet ,actually do and if the oline can play a little better and we can run the ball and crompton dont throw more than 1 pick and have no fumbles and cause the gators some to then anything is possible on any given day ,i wouldnt watch the game if i thought there was no way possible to win ,but even if we lose im hoping for improvement from last week and every week the remainder of the season and then the kiffen era will start getting everyone excieted ,even if flordia dont overlook tennessee and they win we have to finish the season stong instead of falling apart and then next year in knoxville tennessee will beat flordia 37- 14 to start a 8 game winning streak against the gators because they have been down for a few seasons but within 5 years ut will have 3 sec east titals and 2 sec championship game titals and in the bcs and an ncaa tital or 3 or more in next 10 years,we will be 3 deep at every position by the start of the2011 season our defense will rule collage football for the next 10 years starting in 2011 giving up less than a 180 total yards and a td a game and our offense will explode like a nuke when the peices are finally in place a couple years from now ,you can buy stock in that and not worry about going broke
 
#39
#39
HilltopperVol89 said:
Just said on 104.5 outta Nashville that we wouldn't score more than 3 points saturday. Why put this Jack@ss on the radio? He pisses me off everytime I hear him speak.

Talk about Tebow having a chip on his shoulder because kiffin calling his daddy/coach a cheater is nothing compared to the chip the vols should have due to the fact that noone thinks they can win this one. Admittedly so, the vols must find holes in that "spectacular" defense that troy had their way with in the first quarter. Crompton just needs to calm down and play Tennessee football, not trying to make plays out of horrible situations. The moment he starts doing that is when we will start beating the teams we are supposed to beat and the teams noone else thinks we can beat.

I don't see florida winning by more than ten. Florida is going to have to run (which is what we want them to do) most plays because they don't have any harvins, and I personally believe our secondary is top notch. Our D should love their matchups if they look at them very closely.
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The UT defense has a lot of match up issues coming into this game.
 
#40
#40
notaguru2 said:
Yes. It's because everyone has loaded up on UT for the cover and they are trying to entice people to bet on UF to even out the book. That's the simple truth.
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Line opened at 28. I don't know a soul on pregame (wagering site) that is on UT---so the line moved up. If vegas wanted action on Fla, the line would have DROPPED down to 24-25----as it would have if the money was going on UT. Bookmaking 101.
 
#41
#41
winchestervol63 said:
The betting line is set in order to ensure approximately equal amounts of money bet on each team. Since the house gets a cut of all bets, the house always wins if there is an equal amount of money bet on each team. The line gets adjusted to even things out. The people setting the line don't give a rip about who wins nor by how much if they get an equal amount bet on each team. So, it's utter foolishness to get indignant about a betting line, ever. Might as well set out to argue with every one of the thousands of people betting on the game....

Regardless, I think the Vols are better than conventional wisdom holds and the Gators are not as good. Here's hoping for a good entertaining game at least -
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Vegas does give a rats ass on this one. The books are hoping like heck that UT covers, otherwise they take a bath---all the money is on UF. There will be some late betting on UT if the line goes to 32-33. You can go online and view the percentages, but vegas wins more on the actual wagering than the vig.
 
#42
#42
Hyams just stated that he is very concerned about how well the Vols will play Saturday after the sudden and tragic passing of Coach Neyland.
 
#43
#43
winchestervol63 said:
The betting line is set in order to ensure approximately equal amounts of money bet on each team. Since the house gets a cut of all bets, the house always wins if there is an equal amount of money bet on each team.
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First sentence is somewhat correct. Second is not. The house only makes money on losing bets. Therefore, the house would much rather have more action on the losing side of the bet.
 
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