How would have Leach and Minshew fared this season at UT?

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Pruitt has the same chances as Leach to win a national championship and neither have yet as a head coach....and may never. If we want championships then winning press conferences doesn’t beat bama.
 
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Grudenhaslanded said:
If it was only the talent level, then no way the SC or the Charlotte game is remotely close. With our receivers and QBs, leach would have put up some serious numbers.

And before any one says “No because our Oline sucks”, the pass protection is fixable if you can get everyone to know their assignments including and especially our TE’s and backs.
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I think they know their assignments, they're just not good enough. So sorry, I don't think Leach would be too far ahead this year and that's coming from who thinks Leach would have been a great hire and would've shaken up the SEC.
 
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Titans Fan said:
Minshew is leading the nation in passing yards and sixth in TDs. What record would you give Leach and Minshew this season at UT if Currie would have hired him?

Leach talks Minshew and politics on Election Day
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with the current players on the field, I'm not sure any coach would have improved out current record.

I'm still scratching my head over how we beat Auburn. At this point the only thing I can figure is that Pruitt knew all their weaknesses having coached at Bama.
 
#32
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Leach would rip our O-Line to shreds if he planned on having a passing attack.
 
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MWAVolfan said:
with the current players on the field, I'm not sure any coach would have improved out current record.

I'm still scratching my head over how we beat Auburn. At this point the only thing I can figure is that Pruitt knew all their weaknesses having coached at Bama.
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Didn't Bama also play UGA last year?
 
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BeecherVol said:
Why does he go to obscure locations like Lubbock, Tx and Pullman, Wa?
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I'm not sure Texas Tech is "obscure," I'd call it in the middle somewhere, but he was canned from TT after a disputed incident involving a player who was the son of a prominent TV sports personality and an equipment shed.

For that, he had to do his time in "Coaching Purgatory," and when that was over Wazzu came calling. If he finishes out this season as strong as he's done so far, he'll have plenty of interest from more prominent schools for certain.
 
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Hoosier_Vol said:
It's the talent level, not the coaching for the most part.
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In general this is the exact, word-for-word opposite of the pumper rationale for a winning season this year. Fans need to evict all of those spectres from the past taking up room in their skulls so they can process information in a semi-coherent fashion. It has always been about on-field talent. The answer is neither coach would have succeeded because the o-line sucked, was going to suck, and never had a chance to do anything but suck. The qb's are completely mundane and we have now seen their college career ceiling. It is an outright miracle that Trey Smith got a half-season in. Despite all this the team still might have some winning left to do this year.
 
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VOL_Lyfe said:
I'm not sure Texas Tech is "obscure," I'd call it in the middle somewhere, but he was canned from TT after a disputed incident involving a player who was the son of a prominent TV sports personality and an equipment shed.

For that, he had to do his time in "Coaching Purgatory," and when that was over Wazzu came calling. If he finishes out this season as strong as he's done so far, he'll have plenty of interest from more prominent schools for certain.
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Lubbock, Tx is "somewhere" I suppose and unless you lock a kid in a equipment shed after he gets a concussion most people won't know your there and will leave you be. He's not a big media type coach and seems like he actually enjoys places like Tech and WSU. As long as he keeps his nose clean everybody lets him be for the most part. Both of those schools seem to fit him better than most.
 
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I'd say we'd have went 6-6 or 7-5. This would be the most talent Leach has coached in years, if not ever. But it would still take him time to get his scheme installed. I can only laugh at the no defense comments. WSU had a top 15 in the nation defense last year. The SEC is Alabama, down from them is Georgia. Then a bunch of average to mediocre teams and a bunch of bad ones. Kentucky having the record they do is proof of that. Just like South Carolina was last year. The East is awful outside of Georgia so someone took advantage of it.

I too, don't understand the hate he receives. He's basically taken low talent situations and turned them around dramatically. He doesn't kiss butt to boosters or the athletic department higher ups. Which is 110 percent needed here because the biggest booster and the athletic department have been atrocious. The biggest thing he'd bring would have been hope. He's turned around both programs he went to and did it with far far less resources than here.

Read the story sometime about what he did as the OC for Stoops at rebuilding Oklahoma to trick a top 5 Texas team. It's great.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
I'd say we'd have went 6-6 or 7-5. This would be the most talent Leach has coached in years, if not ever. But it would still take him time to get his scheme installed. I can only laugh at the no defense comments. WSU had a top 15 in the nation defense last year. The SEC is Alabama, down from them is Georgia. Then a bunch of average to mediocre teams and a bunch of bad ones. Kentucky having the record they do is proof of that. Just like South Carolina was last year. The East is awful outside of Georgia so someone took advantage of it.

I too, don't understand the hate he receives. He's basically taken low talent situations and turned them around dramatically. He doesn't kiss butt to boosters or the athletic department higher ups. Which is 110 percent needed here because the biggest booster and the athletic department have been atrocious. The biggest thing he'd bring would have been hope. He's turned around both programs he went to and did it with far far less resources than here.

Read the story sometime about what he did as the OC for Stoops at rebuilding Oklahoma to trick a top 5 Texas team. It's great.
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JMO but, If (and thats a major if) UT was to have hired him as coach. He seems like the type that in year 5 could win 11 games (get to Atl, maybe even make the playoff) get in an argument at the airport with UT Admin or a booster and tell everybody to F off and quit on the spot.
 
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JCHateSteve said:
It would be about the same. The O line would still be holding the offense back.
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Don't know why people won't accept this. Whoever was at QB was going to get beat up. Whoever was coaching was going to spend a lot of time shaking their head.
 
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I'm content on giving Pruitt 3 yrs like any coach deserves. With that said I think Brohm would have been AMAZING in the SEC
 
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GAVol said:
Don't know why people won't accept this. Whoever was at QB was going to get beat up. Whoever was coaching was going to spend a lot of time shaking their head.
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Backup quarterback derangement syndrome?
 
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JCHateSteve said:
It would be about the same. The O line would still be holding the offense back.
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I think Leach would have found a way to scheme around it better than Helton. With that said, we probably would be between 4-5 and 5-4 at this point, but with a much better chance of success against the last three opponents.
 
#47
#47
I did not want Mike Leach representing THE UNIVERSITY OF TENNESSEE!

THE greatest university in the entire, freaking W-O-R-L-D!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
#48
#48
I may not have the most popular opinion but I would’ve rivaled even the worst nega-VOLs had Leach been hired. His weird, awkward antics would’ve gotten old to me so fast. I think he’d be an absolute train wreck on the recruiting trail and he’d struggle to make it down south. His lack of emphasis on defense would’ve been awful. Of course all of this is my opinion and I’m not basing this on any known facts. Just what I see. I’d take Pruitt every time over him.
 
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I don't think Saban disciples are guys that adapt to rosters that they have very well. They try to be program builders.

I think Leach would have had a more successful season to this point. Long term though, he's not a guy that wins you a championship.
 
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About the same or a little worse. Our Defense wouldn't have shown the improvement they have without Pruitt. With our O line issues I don't think the offense would have been much better.
 
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