How will History view GA?

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I work in Ga and it looks a lot like it did yesterday. A lot of local businesses are saying they're choosing to stay closed in my town.

I'm not calling Kemp dumb or supporting him. I'm just glad I'm not the one making these decisions. I'm not sure anybody really knows what's going on
 
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The states that open will be blasted for continuing to have deaths but no real spikes.
The states that stay closed will claim a victory because the positives and deaths continue to drop but will become wastelands unless the feds come in with bailouts....they might not have the money to hold in person elections in November., so everyone will need to text their votes
 
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Wireless1 said:
The states that open will be blasted for continuing to have deaths but no real spikes.
The states that stay closed will claim a victory because the positives and deaths continue to drop but will become wastelands unless the feds come in with bailouts....they might not have the money to hold in person elections in November., so everyone will need to text their votes
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It’s the optimism penalty. If you open up, every death gets laid at your feet no matter how few.

Remain closed and continue to fear monger, and you can make the case your just looking out for the people. If the deaths predicted don’t materialize, you get to claim credit for that, too.
 
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I think Georgia's outcome on reopening is yet to be determined. Georgia's peak is scheduled to hit April 29th so they're reopening before the peak even and certainly before a 14 day decline. If Georgia reopens in particular Atlanta and they have a surge in cases it'll go to hell fast.
 
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Coug said:
I think Georgia's outcome on reopening is yet to be determined. Georgia's peak is scheduled to hit April 29th so they're reopening before the peak even and certainly before a 14 day decline. If Georgia reopens in particular Atlanta and they have a surge in cases it'll go to hell fast.
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How is it going to go to hell? In all reality far more people have had this than we know. The people/businesses who are scared will stay home/closed. The people that want to venture out will. One way or another we need herd immunity, strangling the economy until a vaccine is found is idiocy. I think people should be optimistic that potentially millions of people in NYC have had it and this is the worst it got.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Opening gyms back up is weird. Regardless of how you feel about this, that is hard to understand. They are not important to the economy and can be an ideal port for germs... that is not the place where people are typically exercising caution.
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McDad said:
Without a National Championship in football.
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Gotta admit it’s somewhat satisfying sitting here watching day 3 of the draft and the two formerly feared QB’s of Smart’s are 1 and 2 best available with QB’s taken ahead of them that weren’t worthy of mentioning in the same breath 2 to 3 years ago. Nothing against the young men, more of and indictment of Smart not developing talent.

And as I type that Eason goes at 122 to the Colts. The one that displaced him at GA still on the board. 🤷‍♂️
 
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DancingOutlaw said:
How is it going to go to hell? In all reality far more people have had this than we know. The people/businesses who are scared will stay home/closed. The people that want to venture out will. One way or another we need herd immunity, strangling the economy until a vaccine is found is idiocy. I think people should be optimistic that potentially millions of people in NYC have had it and this is the worst it got.
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Initially research suggests maybe 14% of New York state residents have been infected. 22,000 people in NY have died thus far, but most cases remain unresolved.

Given the state population is 19.5 million, NY state represents 6% of the total US population (328M). Thus, had 14% of the entire US population become similarly infected to date, we could be talking 367,000 deaths nationwide, all other factors equal.

Obviously, at 14% infection rate, we'd still be far from any herd immunity. So, I fail to see the optimism here.

I think the GA stunt will go down in history as amazingly ignorant. Given their cases haven't even peaked yet, the Governor is opening up Pandora's Box. I suspect we'll begin to see a spike in cases there a week or so from now, followed by a reclosure by the Governor a week or two later.
 
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MontyPython said:
Initially research suggests maybe 14% of New York state residents have been infected. 22,000 people in NY have died thus far, but most cases remain unresolved.

Given the state population is 19.5 million, NY state represents 6% of the total US population (328M). Thus, had 14% of the entire US population become similarly infected to date, we could be talking 367,000 deaths nationwide, all other factors equal.

Obviously, at 14% infection rate, we'd still be far from any herd immunity. So, I fail to see the optimism here.

I think the GA stunt will go down in history as amazingly ignorant. Given their cases haven't even peaked yet, the Governor is opening up Pandora's Box. I suspect we'll begin to see a spike in cases there a week or so from now, followed by a reclosure by the Governor a week or two later.
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Wait .. what does unsolved mean ? And if you don’t know why are you still using it in a mathematical equation to determine what the rest of the country could look like ? This is why we have a problem narrowing this crap down , we continue to use numbers that are maybes, possibles , could be’s in order to push a narrative one way or the other . Math is an exact science, same with causation of deaths .
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Opening gyms back up is weird. Regardless of how you feel about this, that is hard to understand. They are not important to the economy and can be an ideal port for germs... that is not the place where people are typically exercising caution.
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Ask the gym employees if its not important
 
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MontyPython said:
Initially research suggests maybe 14% of New York state residents have been infected. 22,000 people in NY have died thus far, but most cases remain unresolved.

Given the state population is 19.5 million, NY state represents 6% of the total US population (328M). Thus, had 14% of the entire US population become similarly infected to date, we could be talking 367,000 deaths nationwide, all other factors equal.

Obviously, at 14% infection rate, we'd still be far from any herd immunity. So, I fail to see the optimism here.

I think the GA stunt will go down in history as amazingly ignorant. Given their cases haven't even peaked yet, the Governor is opening up Pandora's Box. I suspect we'll begin to see a spike in cases there a week or so from now, followed by a reclosure by the Governor a week or two later.
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My cousin's husband works at a hospital in Atlanta as a respiratory tech. He says the cases are nowhere near what was expected. So your statement of Georgia being ignorant is an ignorant statement.
 
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0nelilreb said:
Wait .. what does unsolved mean ? And if you don’t know why are you still using it in a mathematical equation to determine what the rest of the country could look like ? This is why we have a problem narrowing this crap down , we continue to use numbers that are maybes, possibles , could be’s in order to push a narrative one way or the other . Math is an exact science, same with causation of deaths .
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Yeah, but he needs to continue carrying water for his marxist party.
 
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happy-go_vol said:
Ask the gym employees if its not important
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I said they weren't important to the economy... and there aren't enough full time gym employees nationwide to justify the unique risk involved with having such establishments open. Gyms are where people go to sweat, and exercise in close quarters with each other. There is no social distancing practiced in the average gym. At Gold's Gym, it's really not even possible if it's crowded... and people don't typically take precautions to avoid the spread of germs when working out. They put their bare hands on everything and don't wipe benches and elliptical equipment down after using them (usually). They should not be considered essential businesses.
 
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happy-go_vol said:
My cousin's husband works at a hospital in Atlanta as a respiratory tech. He says the cases are nowhere near what was expected. So your statement of Georgia being ignorant is an ignorant statement.
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First, is your friend of a friend of a friend actually Dr. Carlos del Rio, distinguished professor of medicine, epidemiology and global health at Emory University? If not, I'll stick with Dr.'s opinion over a lab tech... see his conclusion below.

Second, ask yourself this: WHY are there less cases than expected in GA and elsewhere?

HINT: Rhymes with Rocial Blistancing.

Last, why aren't you listening to our esteemed stable genius Donald J. Trump? He said it's too early for Georgia to open up.

Look, be a good citizen and inject your lysol, swallow a light bulb, and vote Republican in November or never if Donald says no elections.

Atlanta Journal-Constitution, April 23, 2020

"Experts agree that the number of cases in Georgia is still rising, and it has yet to meet the criteria the White House set forth in its guidelines for states that are considering re-opening. One was that the state post a 14-day decline in the percent of tests that are positive.

We’re not yet seeing a decline in the number of cases in Georgia,” stressed Dr. Carlos del Rio, distinguished professor of medicine, epidemiology and global health at Emory University. The rate of the novel coronavirus’ progression through Georgia appears to be slowing, but even if the peak has already passed, the danger is far from over."
 
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happy-go_vol said:
My cousin's husband works at a hospital in Atlanta as a respiratory tech. He says the cases are nowhere near what was expected. So your statement of Georgia being ignorant is an ignorant statement.
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You're citing one (unnamed) account of 2nd hand information as anecdotal evidence that someone else's conclusion is ignorant? I don't know... you haven't really told us much.
 
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MontyPython said:
I think the GA stunt will go down in history as amazingly ignorant. Given their cases haven't even peaked yet, the Governor is opening up Pandora's Box. I suspect we'll begin to see a spike in cases there a week or so from now, followed by a reclosure by the Governor a week or two later.
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Covid cases seem to have peaked here April 14. So Kemp jumped the gun, but he’s only a couple of days ahead of the federal guideline. I disagree with the logic of some of the businesses he opened, but the fact is everybody is walking around Kroger, Publix, Lowe’s and Walmart anyway.

These are actual reported cases:
Georgia Department of Public Health COVID-19 Daily Status Report

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