How will Dooley deal with Bray?

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wfd53 said:
Obviously you have no moral or ethical standards and your conclusion is based on whatever fits your immediate need. Of course your conclusion would be entirely different it this was the star qb for a SEC rival.
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Yeah... no it wouldn't.

For starters, I know it wouldn't, because if this happened for another team, we wouldn't even hear about it.

Because it isn't news.

College kids get bored in July. WOAH, who knew.

Talk abotu moral standards, some guy was ignorant enough to compare this to raping little kids. Moral standards? that comparison is laughable.

This discussion should be over, except a few internet Ghandi's (I'm using that now) won't let it.

Moral standards? Please, howabout a little perspective, your acting like an old man protecting his lawn from a bunch of 8 year old tresspassers.
 
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wfd53 said:
So why in the world would you call Peyton a punk? This I have to hear.
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He isn't. Peyton has done far worse than Bray and you call Bray a punk, thus you call Peyton a punk. Maybe we should spell it out since you didn't read the five posts telling you this but Mr. Manning cost the University 300,000 dollars to settle a SEXUAL HARASSMENT charge for MOONING/TEABAGGING A UNIVERSITY EMPLOYEE! Bray....he got bored after some drinks and threw some bottle at a parking lot at 2 AM. Yea. Big difference.
 
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LurtzVol109 said:
He isn't. Peyton has done far worse than Bray and you call Bray a punk, thus you call Peyton a punk. Maybe we should spell it out since you didn't read the five posts telling you this but Mr. Manning cost the University 300,000 dollars to settle a SEXUAL HARASSMENT charge for MOONING/TEABAGGING A UNIVERSITY EMPLOYEE! Bray....he got bored after some drinks and threw some bottle at a parking lot at 2 AM. Yea. Big difference.
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But Peyton talks Southern and Bray is from Cali. Let's be honest that's a lot of people's problem with Bray,
 
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utmba93 said:
I'm not sold on how many games we'll win or how good Bray is yet. I just see this is something that happens in a whole lot of UT kids lives (they did it, they know it was wrong, they pay for it, and they move on)--and thus much ado about nothing. Sometimes the only cost is simply kneeling before the porcelain throne. The price paid has nothing to do with maturity.
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I'm not saying that the kid is mature. Actually, I know he isn't. If you have ever had a conversation with him, you know this. What I am saying is THIS INCIDENT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FOOTBALL OPERATIONS. The only hope I have now is that Dooley moves him back on campus and keeps his ass in check. We still beat Florida at home and I hope I have the opportunity to get just as liquored up the night after that game as he was when he was hurling those bottles at my car.
 
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I care about what Bray did. It was dumb. It wasn't a "mature" act. But it also isn't necessarily something you can build a generalization about his maturity on... and it isn't a BIG HAIRY DEAL. I doubt I knew a guy in college who didn't do something at least this bad.
 
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LurtzVol109 said:
Dude, who are you to talk about someone's moral or ethical standards, Mr. Jesus? Stop driveling on about it like your a saint and Bray and anyone who doesn't hate him for throwing the bottle is the spawn of cavemen and satan's personal demons. If it was someone else's QB, I would make a joke about him throwing a bottle at 2 in the morning. Just like I am about Bray.
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Let's drop Bray for a second and just talk about qualty players in general. They get a four year ride. They get the opportunity to reap millions in signing bonus. Instead, they commit a felony and lose their career. Their team suffers from their loss. This is not a joke. It is pure stupidity n action.
 
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WattsBarVol said:
The other thread is so full of funny guys that you can't have a serious discussion.

I think Dooley has already looked Bray in the eye and asked for the whole story. If it's "just" throwing bottles and balls at the first woman's car, I see some sort of suspension. All or part of the NC State game would hurt like hell, but would not be a shock. I think Dooley has some backbone and would be willing to make a statement about the future of the program at the risk of losing a key game.

If Bray says he knows nothing about busting the second woman's windshield and does it with conviction, that's it. Story ends and healing begins.

But if Bray blinked and if Dooley thinks he was being BS'd, you know he bored in like the ex-lawyer he is and I think Bray gets the boot. Previous indiscretions on the strip or wherever may come into play, even if they are not huge. The cumulative affect thing hurts a guy's case

What do you think?
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are you nuts? "Bray gets the boot"....i dont give a **** if Dooley is a supreme court judge Bray could look him in the eye and say'' Yah ****head, i busted the skanks windshield and if you dont shut your pie hole, i'll throw a beer bottle thru that part in your hair".....and wouldnt get the boot....Dooleys needs Bray....now obviously i dont beleive the fine young lady to be anything other than a fine young lady, i just used the skank to illustrate my point.....I personally dont think crap happens to Bray as long as he's healthy...just my opinion and you are certainly entitled to yours...my appologies for the comedic remark.:mf_surrender:
 
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Wide_Receiver_U said:
Try 0 games, i dont understand why you guys think he should sit, hes not in trouble, it going to blow over, Jimmy hyams and other radio people have simply made a mountain of a mole hill, bray wont get suspended, he will get his ass kicked during camp with some extra "exercises". thats all
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It's about maturity and learning to be a leader.
 
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wfd53 said:
Let's drop Bray for a second and just talk about qualty players in general. They get a four year ride. They get the opportunity to reap millions in signing bonus. Instead, they commit a felony and lose their career. Their team suffers from their loss. This is not a joke. It is pure stupidity n action.
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Still waiting on your Peyton rebuttal.
 
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wfd53 said:
Let's drop Bray for a second and just talk about qualty players in general. They get a four year ride. They get the opportunity to reap millions in signing bonus. Instead, they commit a felony and lose their career. Their team suffers from their loss. This is not a joke. It is pure stupidity n action.
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He didn't and he won't. Stupidly in action? Pot meet kettle.
 
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tvols75 said:
But Peyton talks Southern and Bray is from Cali. Let's be honest that's a lot of people's problem with Bray,
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This relates to my earlier point. This was a totally native act. In Cali, they throw wine bottles at the beach. Bray is officially a Tennessean.
 
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VegasBaby! said:
It's about maturity and learning to be a leader.
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People need to stop mistaking being a good person for being a good leader.

Ray Lewis is one of the greatest leaders in the NFL.

I'm pretty sure he killed a guy.

You can be one and not the other.

Now, being the face of a team is different, I get that.
 
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TUSKtimes said:
Not a federal offense to miss class. You can still be suspended. And just because it's the right thing to do.
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Man, you make me ashamed to have Bama as my 2nd. Stop being a self righteous dumbazz. Bama/Saban's day in the barrel is coming. It's only a matter of time. I give you two more years and you will see Saban pull a Pete Carroll and leave Bama in the lurch. I don't care how long his contract is for. With PSU's acceptance of it's punishment, the NCAA has a new and broader power. You better wake up and smell the sanctions.
 
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Ten_Titans said:
People need to stop mistaking being a good person for being a good leader.

Ray Lewis is one of the greatest leaders in the NFL.

I'm pretty sure he killed a guy.

You can be one and not the other.

Now, being the face of a team is different, I get that.
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Excellent post sir.
 
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