How upset will you be if we lose to WV?

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#102
pismonque said:
I think for us to have a chance we'll have to go hard at Grier, get in his face and knock him down a few times. He's really talented but he can be a turnover machine too. We just need to get him out of his game.

Of course, even if we do, we still have to score points so who the hell knows what's gonna happen there.
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Not sure where you got this from. We were ranked #28 in sacks allowed. Grier's TD/INT was 34/12. There's no place that has INTs attributable to tips or the WRs but I know there were several. Of course I guess there were probably balls that should have been intercepted too.

Your concern with Grier should be the deep ball. He is the best I've seen at WVU in 30+ years. For your viewing pleasure (take note of some of the receivers)...

Will Grier 2017-2018 Highlights - YouTube

PYSCHO said:
2 things will decide this game for UT. One our pass rush will make our pass defense better no rush, they will score a lot. Qb play, control the clock for their defense is ass and starting a slew of new people and there best lineman have all transferred out and the best linebacker tore acl Going to have to score when the opportunity arises and not all field goals either. If they do that should have a good chance.
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Again, not sure where you got this. You've got some of this right and a lot wrong. LB Brendan Ferns tore his ACL for the second (third?) time but he was not our top LB, rJr David Long is. He injured his meniscus but will play this year, we're just not sure when. He played lights out last year...kid is a stud.

Both our OT are returning and have been called "elite" in the Big 12 by our reporters. Of course that may be reporters throwing out a little raw meet for our fanbase.

OG Sills was a very good starter last season and is returning. Our other guard, Hardy, saw some spot duty last season and did alright. His potential, though, is pretty high according to our writers.

It seems last years starting C who started every game has lost his spot to rSo Jacob Buccigrossi.

That was all the bad news for you all. The good news for you is that we are thin at several positions both offensively and defensively. Given how critical it is for an OL to work in sync an injury could really cause problems. Holgs has schollied several JUCOs/Grad transfers to fill the thin spots.

Lastly, I know the Grier-Steroid thing is just ribbing but to set the record straight, it's not like he was shooting HGH. He took an over the counter product and didn't clear it with the coaches. He humbly apologized publicly and took his punishment. Tough lesson to have learned publically as a kid. God knows I wouldn't want some of my failings to have had that much publicity.
 
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MountaineerLegion said:
Not sure where you got this from. We were ranked #28 in sacks allowed. Grier's TD/INT was 34/12. There's no place that has INTs attributable to tips or the WRs but I know there were several. Of course I guess there were probably balls that should have been intercepted too.

Your concern with Grier should be the deep ball. He is the best I've seen at WVU in 30+ years. For your viewing pleasure (take note of some of the receivers)...
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Really good QB. Thanks. How good at misleading the safety? Did he play against a great safety?
 
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govols105 said:
pissed we should not lose to west virginia. we owe steriod grier a beating. a loss will tell us what kind of coach pruitt is. we should never tolerate a coach that can't win out of conference games against mediocre opponets. especially when you have almost 9 months to prepare. a loss means we have some coaching issues first year coach or not.
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Instead of pandemonium reigns, les miserables idiots do. I want to win 7 this year regardless of which 7.
 
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#107
VolTexas said:
Really good QB. Thanks. How good at misleading the safety? Did he play against a great safety?
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He played, briefly, against a unanimous All American S at TX. That was the game he broke his finger very early in the game.

I get your point though. I'll say this, every Big 12 team knows they are going to face high powered passing attacks. Consequently they recruit to defend against those. Do they recruit at the level of SEC schools...we'll have to see.

I'd also mention that aside from looking off the receiver the deception comes from the offensive scheme. Holgs has been associated with high powered passing attacks at every school he's been at and he's been very successful at every one.

Lastly, we are deep with quality receivers. We can flood the secondary on an individual play and/or try to wear them down with numbers over the entire game.

I take it you all have quality safeties? How is your secondary as a whole? If so it might be an interesting battle. Our pass blocking is pretty good but if your secondary can give your DLine a little time my pucker factor may go up.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
Extremely disappointed?

Understanding it’s part of the rebuilding process?

Wanting to fire Pruitt? (Blue font)

I’ll only be disappointed if we get blown out and don’t put up much of an effort.
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We aren’t losing to West Virginia. That coach can’t beat Pruitt, because Pruitt is a lot smarter than he is. This guy will go down in 🔥 flames.:):rock:
 
#109
#109
Guys better buckle up, its gonna be a long season.


One thing you can count on his people will be back on here next pff season claiming we own wv.
 
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#111
West virginia is loaded that offense going to be crazy..will grier still there and the all american wr..that team is not trash
 
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MountaineerLegion said:
Not sure where you got this from. We were ranked #28 in sacks allowed. Grier's TD/INT was 34/12. There's no place that has INTs attributable to tips or the WRs but I know there were several. Of course I guess there were probably balls that should have been intercepted too.
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I was going on just remembering that he led the Big 12 in INTs (although his TD/INT is solid still) and I think he had like a half dozen fumbles too. And remembering him throwing I think 4 picks against Okie St. Admittedly I didn't go back to look at how the stats actually played out across the season so maybe I'm picking outliers out of the sample set.

Still, you're gonna lean on his arm to win games so if we let him sit comfortably and throw we're gonna get lit up. Truth is though, it's stupid to say what we need to do when I really don't even know what we have this year. There are still some players with talent but it's a whole new system and a whole lot of unknown factors.
 
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#113
pismonque said:
I was going on just remembering that he led the Big 12 in INTs (although his TD/INT is solid still) and I think he had like a half dozen fumbles too. And remembering him throwing I think 4 picks against Okie St. Admittedly I didn't go back to look at how the stats actually played out across the season so maybe I'm picking outliers out of the sample set.

Still, you're gonna lean on his arm to win games so if we let him sit comfortably and throw we're gonna get lit up. Truth is though, it's stupid to say what we need to do when I really don't even know what we have this year. There are still some players with talent but it's a whole new system and a whole lot of unknown factors.
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I'm not sure where you got that he led the Big 12 in INTs. According to CFBStats only OK, KS, and Baylor threw fewer INTs. KS and Baylor were near the bottom of the Big 12 in passing yards and OK, well, was OK.

cfbstats.com - 2017 Big 12 Conference Team Leaders

As for the 4 INTs against OkSt, I had forgotten about that...probably a little homerism goggles on my part going on there.

As for the fumbles I'm not sure where to find that stat if you'd like to help me out.

As for both of us speculating about how things will go, that's what football junkies do. The off season is way too long. It's all good brotha. Hope springs eternal.
 
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#1ManningFan said:
I sense that our fan base is giving Pruitt a shorter leash than Butch and Dooley. The man hasn't even coached his first game and a poll is out on how mad the fan base will be if we get beat by an early prediction preseason top 10 team. Currie is right. Our fan base is whack! Flame away! I wont respond.
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FTR, Currie was only referring to you #1. :yes:
 
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MountaineerLegion said:
I'm not sure where you got that he led the Big 12 in INTs. According to CFBStats only OK, KS, and Baylor threw fewer INTs. KS and Baylor were near the bottom of the Big 12 in passing yards and OK, well, was OK.

cfbstats.com - 2017 Big 12 Conference Team Leaders

As for the 4 INTs against OkSt, I had forgotten about that...probably a little homerism goggles on my part going on there.

As for the fumbles I'm not sure where to find that stat if you'd like to help me out.

As for both of us speculating about how things will go, that's what football junkies do. The off season is way too long. It's all good brotha. Hope springs eternal.
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Here are player stats for Big 12 passing, sorted by INTs. Grier led with 12. Don’t remember where I read the fumble numbers, I’ll see if I can find it tomorrow (it’s past my bedtime now).

I’ve got old ties to WV folk and saw them ‘Eers play several times in the 70s and 80s so I’ve been looking forward to this game. I’d be more than happy for the Vols to be the only team that takes ‘em down this year. :)
 
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griffdog14 said:
Thats an understatement, theyre going to have one of the best offenses in the country.

Tennessee on the other hand will be playing their first game with a new head coach with a completely new defensive system

To expect a win is insane.
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Yeah a rookie first time head coach at any level. Needed ETSU to open up. Pruitt vs Sanders. About even.
 
#120
#120
There's a style of football that lights up the scoreboard
and excites the casual fan to the sometimes detriment of your defense.

Dana Holgerson has mastered that.

There's style of football which wins championships and excites those of us who mutter General Neyland's maxims in our sleep.

Jeremy Pruitt has had a long apprenticeship in that craft.


I like our chances.
 
#123
#123
govols105 said:
pissed we should not lose to west virginia. we owe steriod grier a beating. a loss will tell us what kind of coach pruitt is. we should never tolerate a coach that can't win out of conference games against mediocre opponets. especially when you have almost 9 months to prepare. a loss means we have some coaching issues first year coach or not.
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LOL! And this is why Vol fans don't deserve nice things.
 
#124
#124
I don't think I'd see it as anything other than a loss. It would be great to start off with a victory over what will likely be a ranked opponent but it sounds like WVa is favored to win. Now if poor coaching, on-field performance, and/or preparation leads to the loss (as opposed to being categorically outmatched)...that would be a reason to be a bit upset.
 
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#125
#125
Rifleman said:
There's a style of football that lights up the scoreboard
and excites the casual fan to the sometimes detriment of your defense.

Dana Holgerson has mastered that.

There's style of football which wins championships and excites those of us who mutter General Neyland's maxims in our sleep.

Jeremy Pruitt has had a long apprenticeship in that craft.


I like our chances.
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I likw this.

I'm looking forward to this matchup.
 
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