How to Reconcile Tennessee's "Disappointing" Basketball Season with Its Tourney Run

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[I posted a version of this yesterday, but I linked to the original blog, so it got deleted. Here's the full post.]

Many UT basketball fans argue that UT had a "disappointing" regular season, and they say, therefore, that Coach Cuonzo Martin (CCM) deserves the blame for this disappointment (even if he deserves respect for his Tourney run). Furthermore, they argue that Tennessee's "improvement" on the court matches CCM's growth as a coach. In other words, they believe that Tennessee played poorly for much of the season and they blame CCM for that poor play.

I wonder, however, if he really does deserve so much criticism for the "disappointing" season. If you judge the season simply on wins and losses, you wouldn't be unreasonable to call the season a disappointment. It certainly was.

I don't want to argue here so much whether or not the season was a disappointment in terms of wins and losses, but, rather, I'd like to discuss why Tennessee lost 12 times (and some of them to bad teams). We need to have this discussion because--if you believe the media--CCM found himself on the verge of being fired. He certainly bore the brunt of the fans' blame for the losses.

But what if Cuonzo Martin coaching acumen wasn't to blame for the losses? What if Cuonzo Martin was just as good of a coach then as he is believed to be now? Even more startling, what if Tennessee actually played quite strong, well-coached basketball all season long? What would in that case have caused all the disappointment?

What if I were to tell you it was simply bad luck?

In fact, such statisticians such as Ken Pomeroy argue just that: Tennessee was one of the unluckiest teams in all of college basketball.

After all, Kenpom--for those who follow such sabrmetrics fellows--has UT ranked 6th in the nation right now, statistics which weigh the entire season, including all the "disappointments."

How can that be, these CCM critics argue? Everyone knows that UT underperformed this regular season. What is more, he believes that Tennessee's 11 seeded birth into the NCAA is quite low for a team of UT's caliber.

But, again, how in the world can a team that supposedly so underperformed during the season that 30,000 fans signed a petition to get the guy fired be under-seeded at the 11 spot?

Sabermetrics gives us the answer: luck.

In fact, in a recent blog post, Pomeroy argues that "[t]he deceptively limited season of this sport is why a team that's probably one of the country's 25 best can be seeded like it's not in the top 40." In other words, if you flip a coin 1,000,0000 times, you could reasonably expect the coin to split its landings on heads or tails in half. However, if you flip it only 35 times, you might end up with tails (or heads) 30 times even though it stats tell us it should be closer to 18 or 17 split.

Therefore, sabermetrics/Kenpom.com thinkers argue that the two TxAM losses (where Jarnell Stokes's missed free throw to win the game and a TxAM player who can't shoot knocked down a three down 2 different times to win) and the Missouri loss were just unlucky, statistical noise. Some might even throw in the Wichita game in the mix. After all, when UT started making a run, Jordan McCrae gets a ticky tack technical for excessive celebration and etc.

In short, the luck just didn't go UT's way this year. If UT played an NBA length season, this type of thinking goes, the luck would balance out and UT's record would look more like it should. In short, UT lost some close ones to some bad teams which resulted in disappointment and calls for the coach's job due to his inability to "get the job done."

Well, let's take a closer look at the losses:

1) @Xavier (NCAA Team): 4 points.
2) UTEP (neutral): 8 points
3) @WSU (NCAA Team #1 seed): 9 points
4) NC State (NCAA Team) : 10 points.
5) A&M: 1 point
6) @UK (NCAA Team): 8 points
7) @UF (NCAA Team #1 seed): 26 points
8) @VU: 4 points
9) UF (NCAA Team, #1 seed): 9 points
10) @Missou: 5 points
11) A&M: 2points (OT)
12) UF (NCAA Team #1 seed): 7 points

So 3 losses to the number 1 team in the nation, two of them were "Games." One loss to a another #1 seed in Wichita St. and another loss to a Kentucky Sweet 16 team.

2 losses on prayers (A&M) and another that UT just missed a final shot on (Missou).

Every other loss, UT had a chance to win and for one reason or other just didn't.

Another way to think of it is like this: in the tournament, Wichita lost to UK by missing that last second 3. If he'd hit it, they tie (or win; I can't remember). If he knocks it down, is WSU a better team? Is CGM a better coach?

TxAM is another example: CCM draws up a set play on the final in-bound play after the time out. It works perfectly: Stokes gets fouled for a shot at walk off free throw win. Stokes misses. Bad three point shooter knocks down a three and UT loses. If Stokes hits the free throw, CCM gets credit for a great play and strong coaching. Instead, fans wanted him fired. Was he really a better coach one way or the other?

That's the question that sabermetrics forces us to ask ourselves.

In sum, then, the numbers suggest that CCM and UT weren't really far off from expectations, but they were extremely unlucky. It should be no surprise then that kenpom.com rates UT as one of the top ten unluckiest teams in the nation. In fact, only Alabama, Oklahoma ST, and Iowa (of the big time programs) were unluckier. No surprise again that Iowa was UT's toughest opponent in the NCAA tourney because both Iowa and UT were vastly under-seeded.

So what's at stake here? Well, our perception of what we see often deceives us. What looks like a disappointing season due to seeming incompetence due to poor coaching was really just a result of a skewed sample size.

In short, UT almost fired a strong coach because of a mis-perception.
 
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I don't put any stock in "luck" to explain it. Any more than I'll call it voodoo or anything else.

We shouldn't have blown out Virginia by 35 either but we did. That wasn't just having good luck or Virginia having bad luck.

On the days we lost to A&M we simply didn't perform as well as we were capable of performing.

That happened several times this season. Several times last season too.
 
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This what I have been saying all year. Some losses people put all on the coach but he had us in position to win. A few more free throws and made lay ups and a couple lucky threes miss and its a different regular season. But that doesn't really matter anyway. It's about the post season.
 
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Messageboard tip: Nobody will read a wall of text.

I just read the whole "wall". It was actually pretty interesting. The local radio show here talks about Kenpom's rankings a lot and how the statistical analysis computes to each teams games and season as a whole. Though I wouldn't go as far as saying that we were just an unlucky team, I do believe Kenpom's analysis has some merit.
 
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Especially with basketball, I like team improvement as the season goes on. They seem to be getting better each game, even with stiffer competition. gators better watch out if we keep this up!
 
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This has been a weird season. the Kenpom analysis has been covered far and wide. I even ready about it on the Michigan boards. We win big and lose close but if you listen to CCM I think his "between the lines" explanation is that it just took a while for our guys to grow up and play to their potential as a team. A lot of their ups and downs may have been attributable to some of the players being focused on individual performance at the expense of the team without necessarily even realizing that. To his credit CCM hung tough and continued to teach the correct approach they needed to take to be winners. It's akin to CBJ stressing that the football team will win on style of play not on talent. Eventually a light went on in the minds of our basketball guys and they saw the vision of what they could do and how they could do it. Then they started doing it and the more they played as a team the more they believed in themselves and what CCM had be relentlessly trying to get through to them. It's a psychology of flow thing. They just grew up, rose to the challenge. jmo.
 
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[I posted a version of this yesterday, but I linked to the original blog, so it got deleted. Here's the full post.]

Many UT basketball fans argue that UT had a "disappointing" regular season, and they say, therefore, that Coach Cuonzo Martin (CCM) deserves the blame for this disappointment (even if he deserves respect for his Tourney run). Furthermore, they argue that Tennessee's "improvement" on the court matches CCM's growth as a coach. In other words, they believe that Tennessee played poorly for much of the season and they blame CCM for that poor play.

I wonder, however, if he really does deserve so much criticism for the "disappointing" season. If you judge the season simply on wins and losses, you wouldn't be unreasonable to call the season a disappointment. It certainly was.

I don't want to argue here so much whether or not the season was a disappointment in terms of wins and losses, but, rather, I'd like to discuss why Tennessee lost 12 times (and some of them to bad teams). We need to have this discussion because--if you believe the media--CCM found himself on the verge of being fired. He certainly bore the brunt of the fans' blame for the losses.

But what if Cuonzo Martin coaching acumen wasn't to blame for the losses? What if Cuonzo Martin was just as good of a coach then as he is believed to be now? Even more startling, what if Tennessee actually played quite strong, well-coached basketball all season long? What would in that case have caused all the disappointment?

What if I were to tell you it was simply bad luck?

In fact, such statisticians such as Ken Pomeroy argue just that: Tennessee was one of the unluckiest teams in all of college basketball.

After all, Kenpom--for those who follow such sabrmetrics fellows--has UT ranked 6th in the nation right now, statistics which weigh the entire season, including all the "disappointments."

How can that be, these CCM critics argue? Everyone knows that UT underperformed this regular season. What is more, he believes that Tennessee's 11 seeded birth into the NCAA is quite low for a team of UT's caliber.

But, again, how in the world can a team that supposedly so underperformed during the season that 30,000 fans signed a petition to get the guy fired be under-seeded at the 11 spot?

Sabermetrics gives us the answer: luck.

In fact, in a recent blog post, Pomeroy argues that "[t]he deceptively limited season of this sport is why a team that's probably one of the country's 25 best can be seeded like it's not in the top 40." In other words, if you flip a coin 1,000,0000 times, you could reasonably expect the coin to split its landings on heads or tails in half. However, if you flip it only 35 times, you might end up with tails (or heads) 30 times even though it stats tell us it should be closer to 18 or 17 split.

Therefore, sabermetrics/Kenpom.com thinkers argue that the two TxAM losses (where Jarnell Stokes's missed free throw to win the game and a TxAM player who can't shoot knocked down a three down 2 different times to win) and the Missouri loss were just unlucky, statistical noise. Some might even throw in the Wichita game in the mix. After all, when UT started making a run, Jordan McCrae gets a ticky tack technical for excessive celebration and etc.

In short, the luck just didn't go UT's way this year. If UT played an NBA length season, this type of thinking goes, the luck would balance out and UT's record would look more like it should. In short, UT lost some close ones to some bad teams which resulted in disappointment and calls for the coach's job due to his inability to "get the job done."

Well, let's take a closer look at the losses:

1) @Xavier (NCAA Team): 4 points.
2) UTEP (neutral): 8 points
3) @WSU (NCAA Team #1 seed): 9 points
4) NC State (NCAA Team) : 10 points.
5) A&M: 1 point
6) @UK (NCAA Team): 8 points
7) @UF (NCAA Team #1 seed): 26 points
8) @VU: 4 points
9) UF (NCAA Team, #1 seed): 9 points
10) @Missou: 5 points
11) A&M: 2points (OT)
12) UF (NCAA Team #1 seed): 7 points

So 3 losses to the number 1 team in the nation, two of them were "Games." One loss to a another #1 seed in Wichita St. and another loss to a Kentucky Sweet 16 team.

2 losses on prayers (A&M) and another that UT just missed a final shot on (Missou).

Every other loss, UT had a chance to win and for one reason or other just didn't.

Another way to think of it is like this: in the tournament, Wichita lost to UK by missing that last second 3. If he'd hit it, they tie (or win; I can't remember). If he knocks it down, is WSU a better team? Is CGM a better coach?

TxAM is another example: CCM draws up a set play on the final in-bound play after the time out. It works perfectly: Stokes gets fouled for a shot at walk off free throw win. Stokes misses. Bad three point shooter knocks down a three and UT loses. If Stokes hits the free throw, CCM gets credit for a great play and strong coaching. Instead, fans wanted him fired. Was he really a better coach one way or the other?

That's the question that sabermetrics forces us to ask ourselves.

In sum, then, the numbers suggest that CCM and UT weren't really far off from expectations, but they were extremely unlucky. It should be no surprise then that kenpom.com rates UT as one of the top ten unluckiest teams in the nation. In fact, only Alabama, Oklahoma ST, and Iowa (of the big time programs) were unluckier. No surprise again that Iowa was UT's toughest opponent in the NCAA tourney because both Iowa and UT were vastly under-seeded.

So what's at stake here? Well, our perception of what we see often deceives us. What looks like a disappointing season due to seeming incompetence due to poor coaching was really just a result of a skewed sample size.

In short, UT almost fired a strong coach because of a mis-perception.

Ridiculous. No need to respond beyond that.
 
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[I posted a version of this yesterday, but I linked to the original blog, so it got deleted. Here's the full post.]

Many UT basketball fans argue that UT had a "disappointing" regular season, and they say, therefore, that Coach Cuonzo Martin (CCM) deserves the blame for this disappointment (even if he deserves respect for his Tourney run). Furthermore, they argue that Tennessee's "improvement" on the court matches CCM's growth as a coach. In other words, they believe that Tennessee played poorly for much of the season and they blame CCM for that poor play.

I wonder, however, if he really does deserve so much criticism for the "disappointing" season. If you judge the season simply on wins and losses, you wouldn't be unreasonable to call the season a disappointment. It certainly was.

I don't want to argue here so much whether or not the season was a disappointment in terms of wins and losses, but, rather, I'd like to discuss why Tennessee lost 12 times (and some of them to bad teams). We need to have this discussion because--if you believe the media--CCM found himself on the verge of being fired. He certainly bore the brunt of the fans' blame for the losses.

But what if Cuonzo Martin coaching acumen wasn't to blame for the losses? What if Cuonzo Martin was just as good of a coach then as he is believed to be now? Even more startling, what if Tennessee actually played quite strong, well-coached basketball all season long? What would in that case have caused all the disappointment?

What if I were to tell you it was simply bad luck?

In fact, such statisticians such as Ken Pomeroy argue just that: Tennessee was one of the unluckiest teams in all of college basketball.

After all, Kenpom--for those who follow such sabrmetrics fellows--has UT ranked 6th in the nation right now, statistics which weigh the entire season, including all the "disappointments."

How can that be, these CCM critics argue? Everyone knows that UT underperformed this regular season. What is more, he believes that Tennessee's 11 seeded birth into the NCAA is quite low for a team of UT's caliber.

But, again, how in the world can a team that supposedly so underperformed during the season that 30,000 fans signed a petition to get the guy fired be under-seeded at the 11 spot?

Sabermetrics gives us the answer: luck.

In fact, in a recent blog post, Pomeroy argues that "[t]he deceptively limited season of this sport is why a team that's probably one of the country's 25 best can be seeded like it's not in the top 40." In other words, if you flip a coin 1,000,0000 times, you could reasonably expect the coin to split its landings on heads or tails in half. However, if you flip it only 35 times, you might end up with tails (or heads) 30 times even though it stats tell us it should be closer to 18 or 17 split.

Therefore, sabermetrics/Kenpom.com thinkers argue that the two TxAM losses (where Jarnell Stokes's missed free throw to win the game and a TxAM player who can't shoot knocked down a three down 2 different times to win) and the Missouri loss were just unlucky, statistical noise. Some might even throw in the Wichita game in the mix. After all, when UT started making a run, Jordan McCrae gets a ticky tack technical for excessive celebration and etc.

In short, the luck just didn't go UT's way this year. If UT played an NBA length season, this type of thinking goes, the luck would balance out and UT's record would look more like it should. In short, UT lost some close ones to some bad teams which resulted in disappointment and calls for the coach's job due to his inability to "get the job done."

Well, let's take a closer look at the losses:

1) @Xavier (NCAA Team): 4 points.
2) UTEP (neutral): 8 points
3) @WSU (NCAA Team #1 seed): 9 points
4) NC State (NCAA Team) : 10 points.
5) A&M: 1 point
6) @UK (NCAA Team): 8 points
7) @UF (NCAA Team #1 seed): 26 points
8) @VU: 4 points
9) UF (NCAA Team, #1 seed): 9 points
10) @Missou: 5 points
11) A&M: 2points (OT)
12) UF (NCAA Team #1 seed): 7 points

So 3 losses to the number 1 team in the nation, two of them were "Games." One loss to a another #1 seed in Wichita St. and another loss to a Kentucky Sweet 16 team.

2 losses on prayers (A&M) and another that UT just missed a final shot on (Missou).

Every other loss, UT had a chance to win and for one reason or other just didn't.

Another way to think of it is like this: in the tournament, Wichita lost to UK by missing that last second 3. If he'd hit it, they tie (or win; I can't remember). If he knocks it down, is WSU a better team? Is CGM a better coach?

TxAM is another example: CCM draws up a set play on the final in-bound play after the time out. It works perfectly: Stokes gets fouled for a shot at walk off free throw win. Stokes misses. Bad three point shooter knocks down a three and UT loses. If Stokes hits the free throw, CCM gets credit for a great play and strong coaching. Instead, fans wanted him fired. Was he really a better coach one way or the other?

That's the question that sabermetrics forces us to ask ourselves.

In sum, then, the numbers suggest that CCM and UT weren't really far off from expectations, but they were extremely unlucky. It should be no surprise then that kenpom.com rates UT as one of the top ten unluckiest teams in the nation. In fact, only Alabama, Oklahoma ST, and Iowa (of the big time programs) were unluckier. No surprise again that Iowa was UT's toughest opponent in the NCAA tourney because both Iowa and UT were vastly under-seeded.

So what's at stake here? Well, our perception of what we see often deceives us. What looks like a disappointing season due to seeming incompetence due to poor coaching was really just a result of a skewed sample size.

In short, UT almost fired a strong coach because of a mis-perception.

lmao- Ever read anything on the statistics you quoted? It falls under the heading of the gamblers ruin. lmao
 
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I'm a big baseball fan, and I see this clash between "numbers guys" and "old school guys" happening more and more with the advent of sabermetrics. A lot of people are going to cringe at the notion that statistical analysis can explain what happens on the court, but there's a ton of merit to what the OP is talking about. I'm not going to suggest that all of our losses were simply bad luck and that our players couldn't have done anything to change the outcome, but I do believe bad luck knocked on our door more than a few times this season.

It's a pretty cool topic nevertheless. The "tl;dr" crowd is missing out.
 
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Don't forget when Maymon got a technical foul against Florida and fouled out. Good post OP, you made a good point bring up NBA's long season; eventually Tennessee's win record would even itself out but I guess that's the game of college basketball.
 
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Good post.

I don't agree with all of it, but I do find it interesting and makes me think some.
 
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Messageboard tip: Nobody will read a wall of text.

Okay, so forums attract two kinds of people: those who want to learn and those who want to opine. In balance, it's the perfect combination.

Thank you, volholio, for posting such a thought provoking wall of text--it's the perfect example of why I joined this site. IMHO words should be weighed, not counted.

And frankly, it's been disappointing to discover how much time and pixels are wasted on knee-jerk emotion-venting and uninformed fan-yap. There's more reward from reading an informative wall of text than from wading through piles of perfunctory pooh-pooh.

(Whoa. Did I suddenly start channeling Hubert H. Humphrey?) :eek:hmy:
 
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UT's regular season was like a Sprint Cup car that just couldn't get it dialed in for the 1st 400 miles of the race but managed to stay on the lead lap. However, on that last pit stop they added a round of wedge, the track temp cooled, and now they're passing cars and are in the lead pack.

Point is, you play for March. What you did in Jan isn't that important at this moment. Look at Wichita St. Do you think they would have rather lost at some point during the regular and still be playing? I do.
 
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Serious question:

Do Tennessee fans believe there will be a happy ending with Martin?

Does he simply brush aside the heavily publicized petition to replace him and go on to have a long career at UT? Does he look to move on to some place else? Or do the calls for his head resume next season when adversity hits, eventually ending with him being fired?
 

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