How to Defense Ohio State

#51
#51
SprintFun said:
Well we played all of the 08-09 season in it, so as long as we need to :p We can play 1-3-1, matchup, or man fluidly and its not uncommon to switch them up on different trips down the floor. Usually if a team gets on a roll we'll switch to try and confuse them and slow them down.
Click to expand...

Do you think OSU will start in man? Do you have a defensive liability? I know Lighty is one of the best, Turner speaks for himself, Lauderdale plays for his rebouding and D, how is Buford and Diebler? Does anyone give you the Oh sh*% feeling when you see them matched up 1 on 1?
 
#52
#52
We'll probably play zone to try and force you to shoot and clog up the middle. No real defensive liability....Diebler is probably our weakest comparatively speaking but not a liability.
 
#53
#53
Diebler is easily the 2nd best option on that team, I mean even if you havent seen him a cursory glance at the numbers tell you all you need to know:

32nd in the nation in offensive rating
28th in effective fg%
14th(!!) in true shooting
83rd in turnover rate

I mean that's phenomenal any way you look at it. Lighty and buford are no slouches, but they're just not that caliber.
 
#55
#55
gasaway and pomeroy. True shooting: "It’s like eFG%, but throws in trips to the line and converts it to a shooting percentage that approximates what 2-point percentage a player would need to have to score the points he produces on all of his shooting attempts."
 
#57
#57
golfballs03 said:
yeah, and I live in Columbus and follow the team. CaptnWoody is correct. How many OSU games have you watched this year?
Click to expand...

Yeah, well tell us how many points Tyler Smith will score, since watching games is all that. Skylar McBee hit a huge shot in the Kansas game. Most everyone saw that game. I guess most think he'll be a big factor Friday night since junior varsity analysis takes place in a vacuum.

It is about match-ups. If you don't understand it, go get someone who knows more about NCAA BB to explain it to you.

Chism isn't guarding Buford.
 
#58
#58
lidderer said:
Diebler is easily the 2nd best option on that team, I mean even if you havent seen him a cursory glance at the numbers tell you all you need to know:

32nd in the nation in offensive rating
28th in effective fg%
14th(!!) in true shooting
83rd in turnover rate

I mean that's phenomenal any way you look at it. Lighty and buford are no slouches, but they're just not that caliber.
Click to expand...

no. he isn't. Patrick Patterson has the best offensive rating for Kentucky, but that doesn't make him their #1 option.
 
#59
#59
Wise-Vol said:
Yeah, well tell us how many points Tyler Smith will score, since watching games is all that. Skylar McBee hit a huge shot in the Kansas game. Most everyone saw that game. I guess most think he'll be a big factor Friday night since junior varsity analysis takes place in a vacuum.

It is about match-ups. If you don't understand it, go get someone who knows more about NCAA BB to explain it to you.

Chism isn't guarding Buford.
Click to expand...

What in the world are you talking about?? I am a UT grad and have watched every UT game this year. I also live in Columbus and watch a lot of Ohio State basketball. You apparently haven't watched Ohio State much, if any. Especially if you think Diebler is the #2 option for OSU.

Also, I never said Chism was going to guard Buford.
 
#60
#60
Just listened to a 5 minute snippet of Thad Matta, on a podcast from Mike and Mike this morning....I know what coaches say don't mean much in media but he said the most important things they need to do is limit turnovers, and keep the Vols from getting easy baskets off of those turnovers, and make them score in a half court game, pretty standard knowledge and concepts for any game really. The Link is below
ESPN Radio

Also CBP was on the Dan Patrick show this morning...didn't really talk about the game, talked mostly about if some womens players could make the mens team, and about players point shaving in the past here's the link to that
Dan Patrick Show On Demand, Podcasts - Dan Patrick.com
it's about half way through the first hour
 
#61
#61
emainvol said:
That one dimension has helped them kill the last few teams they played too. Not saying I disagree with you when it comes to the better players, but Diebler can become the second option in a hurry if teams aren't careful
Posted via VolNation Mobile
Click to expand...

Exactly. Against quality opponents (i.e., either NCAA teams or Illinois, the closest bubble team in the Big 10), Buford has shot 35% from three point range since February 1. Diebler has shot 47% and has attempted 72 three pointers to Buford's 24. Diebler has hit more threes than Buford has attempted.

Yes, Diebler is one-dimensional. But if a team has to help on Turner, who would you rather leave for an open jumper, a guy who will hit 2, maybe 3, of the 8 he shoots or a guy who will hit 4 of every 8 he attempts?

And Diebler's percentage has been getting better, not worse. He's a 43% three point shooter who is shooting 47% against quality opponents in February and March and 49% in March alone. Buford is a 38% three point shooter who is shooting 35% against quality opponents in February and March.

Why is Lighty so dangerous? Like Diebler, his shooting has improved in the stretch run from a year average of 38% from three point range to 42% since February 1. And, even though he has taken 100 fewer shots than Turner, he has been to the FT line only 23 fewer times. With Chism's sometimes inexplicable decision-making when it comes to fouling, Lighty may get us in foul trouble (even though he is a bad FT shooter).

This is exactly why JP Prince is so dangerous. Someone who bases analysis on season stats and games they saw in December or January misses it completely. Dude averages less than 10 ppg, but since Kentucky visited Knoxville, he is averaging over 14 points a game.
 
#62
#62
golfballs03 said:
What in the world are you talking about?? I am a UT grad and have watched every UT game this year. I also live in Columbus and watch a lot of Ohio State basketball. You apparently haven't watched Ohio State much, if any. Especially if you think Diebler is the #2 option for OSU.

Also, I never said Chism was going to guard Buford.
Click to expand...

I don't care if you have a Masters Degree in Math from OSU and a BS in EE from UT, I'm talking about match-ups. If you think Diebler isn't the #2 offensive problem for the Vols in this game, you don't understand anything about match-ups.
 
#64
#64
Wise-Vol said:
I don't care if you have a Masters Degree in Math from OSU and a BS in EE from UT, I'm talking about match-ups. If you think Diebler isn't the #2 offensive problem for the Vols in this game, you don't understand anything about match-ups.
Click to expand...

You have no clue what you are talking about. BTW, you won't answer me. How many OSU games have you watched this year??
 
#66
#66
Wise-Vol,

How do you see UT defending Ohio State? Buford is dangerous because of his pull-up game. He has that floater and mid range pull-up jumper that is missing from basketball these days. Diebler spots up and shoots very well curling off of screens. Lighty is a slasher and a much improved shooter. His free throw shooting is greatly improved since January. So much that he's shooting about 80% from the line since then. Turner's game you obviously know. Laurderdale is there for junk and Madsen gets the random layup and has a dependable baseline jumper that he steps out to when Turner drives.

I'm curious how you think they'll play the Buckeyes. Thanks.
 
#68
#68
Besides Turner going off on people on a regular basis, the others who should concern wise-vol are Buford, Diebler, Lighty but in no real particular order. That's what makes this team hard to defend. The only one you don't have to worry about going off on you is Lauderdale. Don't put too much stock in Diebler when Buford and Lighty are just as dangerous.

Giving wise-vol the benefit of the doubt, he probably only saw the first two Ohio State games of the tournament and I can understand how he might be so worried about Diebler more than the others. But in reality, Diebler is no more dangerous than Buford or Lighty.

I have seen almost every Ohio State game this year and that's my two cents.
 
#69
#69
It's a triple headed monster after turner for sure. I think one of them will have a huuuge game for us to win, and one of them will largely be a non factor. Rarely do all 3 have "good" games, and if they do it's game over
Posted via VolNation Mobile
 
#70
#70
SprintFun said:
It's a triple headed monster after turner for sure. I think one of them will have a huuuge game for us to win, and one of them will largely be a non factor. Rarely do all 3 have "good" games, and if they do it's game over
Posted via VolNation Mobile
Click to expand...

Not quite as rare as you think.

GT

Turner 24
Diebler 20
Lighty 18


B10 Championship

Turner 31
Lighty 20
Diebler 19


Illinois (reg season)

Turner 16
Buford 17
Lighty 22
Diebler 15

PSU, Illini again, Minnesota all in the last 12 games. That's six times in the last 12 games that at least 3 players all had very good scoring games.
 
#71
#71
I said AFTER Turner, so Turner plus the other three havinghuge games.
Posted via VolNation Mobile
 
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.
Advertisement



Back
Top