How to Defense Ohio State

#26
#26
Yea, fair enough.

And, you're correct, obviously Turner is definitely NBA-ready right now.

Just have always thought that there was something about Buford that could make him a legit start at the NBA level...

Kinda reminds me of Michael Redd, "silky-smooth" shooting stroke, and can penetrate and the like as well.
 
#27
#27
CaptnWoody said:
I like your philosophy on how to guard tOSU, but you are way off on listing the 3 most important offensive players.

1.Turner
2.Buford

3a.Lighty
3b.Diebs





5f.Lauderdale


I think this might be the most competitive game of the sweet 16. Going to come down to the team that makes the least amount of mistakes and makes their free-throws
Good Luck :boobies:
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It would be simple to pull up the stats and list them in order of points scored, but I'm going off an understanding of basketball.

Smart teams know that you must stop Turner, but when you do that, someone has to knock down shots. That is Diebler. That is why he is 2nd most important. Lighty is third because he is the graybeard. When it comes down to it, if we are successful in limiting Turner and Diebler, Lighty has the experience to step up. In addition, Lighty is going to likely be guarded by Chism, our most difficult match-up when we are on defense.

Buford is a Sophomore who hasn't played that much tournament basketball. He will be guarded by Maze and that is a good thing for us.

Thus, I suggest you eliminate the phrase "way off" from your vocabulary -- you don't seem to know how to properly utilize it.
 
#28
#28
Wise-Vol said:
It would be simple to pull up the stats and list them in order of points scored, but I'm going off an understanding of basketball.

Smart teams know that you must stop Turner, but when you do that, someone has to knock down shots. That is Diebler. That is why he is 2nd most important. Lighty is third because he is the graybeard. When it comes down to it, if we are successful in limiting Turner and Diebler, Lighty has the experience to step up. In addition, Lighty is going to likely be guarded by Chism, our most difficult match-up when we are on defense.

Buford is a Sophomore who hasn't played that much tournament basketball. He will be guarded by Maze and that is a good thing for us.

Thus, I suggest you eliminate the phrase "way off" from your vocabulary -- you don't seem to know how to properly utilize it.
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yeah, and I live in Columbus and follow the team. CaptnWoody is correct. How many OSU games have you watched this year?
 
#29
#29
golfballs03 said:
yeah, and I live in Columbus and follow the team. CaptnWoody is correct. How many OSU games have you watched this year?
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I think the issue is that Ohio St. simply has option 1 in Turner, then 2a 2b and 2c in Lighty, Buford and Diebler. The last thing Tennessee needs is Diebler to continue his stellar play and shooting from the last 5 or so games, but it becomes an issue of picking your poison. Bottom line, because of his shooting ability, if Diebler gets hot, it will be a long night
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#30
#30
Wise-Vol said:
How should I know? :crazy:

Seriously, I'm sure Pearl and Forbes have it under control, but my lowly opinion is that the three most important offensive players for OSU are Turner, Diebler, and Lighty, in that order.

I suspect that when JP Prince is in the game, he will be defending Turner. When he is not in the game, it will probably be Hopson. That is what they did against Leonard of SDSU.

If it were me, I'd consider running a very loose match-up box and 1 zone.

The concept would basically be first that JP Prince or Hopson has Turner man to man.

Second, Williams or Hall (or Chism, if Baby Pearl is in the game) stays in the low post guarding Lauderdale (or Madsen). There is going to have to be help because OSU sets a lot of high ball screens using Lauderdale/Madsen to get Turner free.

Third, the three other players occupy space around the three point line and pick-up whoever comes in their area with particular emphasis on Diebler. So, if Diebler runs the baseline from Chism to Hopson, Williams floats, Chism picks up Lauderdale temporarily and then Hopson grabs Diebler and Chism stays on his side of the court with Lighty or Buford. Same with Maze. If the wings aren't switching, then Williams will have to follow the guy running the baseline and Chism will have to pick up Lauderdale.

Fourth, there will have to be some sagging to help on Turner. Hopefully we pay attention to Diebler when that happens.

Fifth, you have to make Turner go left. He already is shaky handling the ball. Don't let him go to his strong side.

With all that said, Bruce will probably come out in a straight man to man. :rock:
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Pearl hasn't played a straight man to man all year. Our man is basically a match-up zone. They switch on cutters and on screens just like a match-up zone.

Keys for guarding Turner:
The key for Turner is to make him settle for jumpers. I would rather have Cam on him when Prince is out. Hopson would be a last resort. I would double off of every ball screen and force Turner to give up the ball and not be able to attack off ball screens.

Key for Guarding Diebler:
Switch every ball screen. Force Diebler to put the ball on the floor. Do not let him get clean looks. Our length and Chism's ability to switch onto wings make this very doable.
 
#31
#31
emainvol said:
I think the issue is that Ohio St. simply has option 1 in Turner, then 2a 2b and 2c in Lighty, Buford and Diebler. The last thing Tennessee needs is Diebler to continue his stellar play and shooting from the last 5 or so games, but it becomes an issue of picking your poison. Bottom line, because of his shooting ability, if Diebler gets hot, it will be a long night
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Diebler is too one-dimensional, unlike Buford and Lighty who can hurt you in a number of ways.
 
#32
#32
lawvol13 said:
pearl hasn't played a straight man to man all year. Our man is basically a match-up zone. They switch on cutters and on screens just like a match-up zone.

Keys for guarding turner:
The key for turner is to make him settle for jumpers. I would rather have cam on him when prince is out. Hopson would be a last resort. I would double off of every ball screen and force turner to give up the ball and not be able to attack off ball screens.

Key for guarding diebler:
Switch every ball screen. Force diebler to put the ball on the floor. Do not let him get clean looks. Our length and chism's ability to switch onto wings make this very doable.
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+100
 
#33
#33
What you talkin about? Haven't you been seeing Johnny D throw them dunks down in the last two weeks?!?!! Amazing athleticism with a motor that never quits :)
 
#34
#34
golfballs03 said:
Diebler is too one-dimensional, unlike Buford and Lighty who can hurt you in a number of ways.
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That one dimension has helped them kill the last few teams they played too. Not saying I disagree with you when it comes to the better players, but Diebler can become the second option in a hurry if teams aren't careful
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#35
#35
LawVol13 said:
Key for Guarding Diebler:
Switch every ball screen. Force Diebler to put the ball on the floor. Do not let him get clean looks. Our length and Chism's ability to switch onto wings make this very doable.
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diebler drives to the bucket once in a blue moon. but yeah, Chism switching out to guard Diebler is not a problem at all
 
#36
#36
golfballs03 said:
diebler drives to the bucket once in a blue moon. but yeah, Chism switching out to guard Diebler is not a problem at all
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We want Diebler driving to the basket. I'm pretty sure he's a lot worse at doing that than shooting threes.
 
#38
#38
emainvol said:
That one dimension has helped them kill the last few teams they played too. Not saying I disagree with you when it comes to the better players, but Diebler can become the second option in a hurry if teams aren't careful
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true. you have to guard everybody. but like I said before, when you get a big contribution from Diebler, it's a bonus. But I think people on this board are overestimating him a little bit
 
#41
#41
golfballs03 said:
true. you have to guard everybody. but like I said before, when you get a big contribution from Diebler, it's a bonus. But I think people on this board are overestimating him a little bit
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He's really turned it on as of late
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#44
#44
emainvol said:
He's really turned it on as of late
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He's turned it on because people aren't guarding him correctly, imo. They are placing all of their focus on Turner. Surely to God, we won't do that considering what Diebler has done the past few games.
 
#48
#48
I've read some articles talking about OSU playing a 1-3-1 zone...how often do they do this, and how far out do they typically extend it? What's the best way to attack a 1-3-1 and do the Vols have the proper personell to do some damage to it?
 
#49
#49
the game plan:

-don't let Diebler shoot the ball
-don't let Lighty drive the ball
-don't let Turner touch the ball
 
#50
#50
Lizzard28 said:
I've read some articles talking about OSU playing a 1-3-1 zone...how often do they do this, and how far out do they typically extend it? What's the best way to attack a 1-3-1 and do the Vols have the proper personell to do some damage to it?
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Well we played all of the 08-09 season in it, so as long as we need to :p We can play 1-3-1, matchup, or man fluidly and its not uncommon to switch them up on different trips down the floor. Usually if a team gets on a roll we'll switch to try and confuse them and slow them down.
 
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