How Serious Is the Eligibility Problem With Rogers?

#26
#26
Isn't it the SAT he has to take to go to an out of state college? I thought you only took the ACT to go to an in state college. If I'm way off base just correct me..... :)
 
#27
#27
ACT has nothing to do with in state or out of state. It was the most popular test of Midwest/Michigan. It is more geared towards what is taught and less so an IQ test. Most state schools accept ACT. Private schools like Emory or Duke will look at it but require SAT. A high SAT score statistically is a better projection of success in college IIRC.
 
#28
#28
I went to a ga public school. its a joke if he can not get in forget it. Ga can not be that hard to graduate from.
 
#29
#29
According to his own twitter he's already qualified, a UGA punk said he wouldn't and his response was "sorry, already qualified."
 
#30
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Clarification on the new TN high school graduation requirements- Kids here already have to take 4 years of math, but if they took Algebra or Geometry in grades 7 or 8, they could be finished with their 4 years by 10th grade. No more-they must take 4 years while they are physically in HS. If they start HS math in middle school they must go on to AP stat, Calculus, or both. Up until this, kids who are not great students could take "Foundations 1" and "Foundations 2" then 2 other classes, which is what a lot of the "less able" did- but beginning with this year's hs freshmen even the very lowest performers must take alg 1, geometry, and alg 2 plus one beyond that. Won't make much difference for college bound kids but will really be an issue for the others in our state. BTW, since Hope scholarship began, UT's average ACT is almost as high as Georgia's-only about .5 less last time I looked at it. UT is really getting the cream of the crop statewide and others are having to look elsewhere.
 
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#31
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orangec said:
Clarification on the new TN high school graduation requirements- Kids here already have to take 4 years of math, but if they took Algebra or Geometry in grades 7 or 8, they could be finished with their 4 years by 10th grade. No more-they must take 4 years while they are physically in HS. If they start HS math in middle school they must go on to AP stat, Calculus, or both. Up until this, kids who are not great students could take "Foundations 1" and "Foundations 2" then 2 other classes, which is what a lot of the "less able" did- but beginning with this year's hs freshmen even the very lowest performers must take alg 1, geometry, and alg 2 plus one beyond that. Won't make much difference for college bound kids but will really be an issue for the others in our state. BTW, since Hope scholarship began, UT's average ACT is almost as high as Georgia's-only about .5 less last time I looked at it. UT is really getting the cream of the crop statewide and others are having to look elsewhere.
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Who are you clarifying? We are talking about GA? Rogers goes to school in GA? Sorry if I missed something just got confused by post. Tenn. just needs to pay teachers more and it will quickly improve lots of things. It can raise standards all it wants unless teachers are paid they will pass kids along not worth fighting system when you are paid babysitting rates. Teacher in TN makes 35k he can make 50k in GA. Who do you think gets the better teachers? Heck I might move back to Knoxville if they actually paid. Teachers in GA can make around 100k with right degrees and years in school system.
 
#32
#32
I would say, at this point, he's at about 50/50 to get in. Has to finish strong and do well on an ACT retake, IMO.
 
#37
#37
If he has a tutor he should get in...if he made an 18 then SEC requires a 17 IIRC. I am not sure on GPA...Do you know Eric? I read on article last year in regards to Ole Miss and all the non qualifiers and it quoted 17 as the required SEC score. TIFWIW.
 
#38
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Jewbaccah said:
If he has a tutor he should get in...if he made an 18 then SEC requires a 17 IIRC. I am not sure on GPA...Do you know Eric? I read on article last year in regards to Ole Miss and all the non qualifiers and it quoted 17 as the required SEC score. TIFWIW.
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I can't remember the scale in regards to ACT/GPA ratio. I will say that if he raises it too much, the Clearinghouse will flag it.
 
#42
#42
No recruit is qualified till they officially graduate high school. As I mentioned before, long before the whole recruiting mess started, it was being said he needed an A semester this last one to qualify. However, I don't think I have ever met a bigtime college recruit who needed a stellar last semester and didn't get one.
 
#43
#43
g8terh8ter_eric said:
Saying he's qualified and making through the Clearinghouse are two TOTALLY different things. He's got some time to sweat, IMO.
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Thanks man, forgot about the whole clearing house thing. He doesn't seem to worried about it, but that last semester of high school is hard to stay focused but I hope he does.
 
#44
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Jewbaccah said:
All he must do is pass his classes but in GA that is tougher then in TN. He likely is making up some form of failed science physics is required as a junior but most jocks fail a semester. Then he has to have four years of math. So he is in Stats now or Trig. Hopefully, the Nances got him a tutor. GA is probably top ten hardest places to get a diploma. Most states require 3 math and 3 science. Kids a couple years younger then Rogers now have to have 4 math and 4 science. And they will take precal or Stats AP as seniors standard now. Perdue was a teacher and they want to make a highs school diploma mean something. They also think it will attract the right type of folk. It is torture for non math brains though I feel for them. He also has to have passed the graduation test...would of taken as Junior but many retake as seniors after failing.
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All of this.
 
#45
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Saying he's qualified and making through the Clearinghouse are two TOTALLY different things. He's got some time to sweat, IMO.
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BS, if he's qualified, he's qualified. Hist test score either was acceptable or it wasn't. If confidence is high then it was likely an acceptable score. The rest he has time to work on. Let's just say he was better than borderline the whole time, but he had to be careful.
 
#47
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Sabanocchio said:
BS, if he's qualified, he's qualified. Hist test score either was acceptable or it wasn't. If confidence is high then it was likely an acceptable score. The rest he has time to work on. Let's just say he was better than borderline the whole time, but he had to be careful.
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There's been plenty of players that have said they are qualified, only to sweat the Clearinghouse process. Like I have said, if he finishes out the semester strong and his test score is within the range the NCAA has set for ACT/GPA ratio, he will be fine.
 
#48
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lateknight said:
That is going to be the new standard to enroll into UT next year anyway. 4 years math and science with each year being a step up from the year before. The bigger question is where did they bring the teachers in from to teach those classes in Georgia.
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Alot of teachers in north Georgia live in Chattanooga, Tennessee.
 
#49
#49
If he actually is qualified, the main reason he may sweat is if he made a big jump on the ACT. If he jumped from maybe a 16 to a 22, then that is reason to sweat. That would make his GPA requirement go down a good bit, but it would also be a jump that may be red-flagged. It is a lot easier to make up ground when you aren't qualified via test score rather than GPA, but it is also a lot riskier.
 
#50
#50
UGA does an exhaustive job of due diligence in the recruiting process. They would not have recruited him so hard and had him as the crown jewel of their class if they did not believe he would qualify.

I'd bet a lot that he qualifies. I would not bet a lot that he stays out of trouble.
 
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