How Much Does CDD's Record Bother You?

#76
#76
paul1454 said:
They have actually been to a few more than that. Dooley only took them to their first win since beating Lousville in the Independence Bowl in 1977. But before that they played E. Carolina in the Independence Bowl in 1978, tied Maryland in the 1990 Independence Bowl, and lost to Clemson in the 2001 Humanitarian Bowl. While they were DII, they went to about 10 other bowls I believe.

EDIT: While DII, they went to 7 bowls - winning 5.
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Huh? That's back there a ways.
 
#77
#77
WOW, after reading this thread I realize why we didn't get one of them thar big city big name coaches. If by some act of fate they were to lose to them dad burn gators in our stadium they would have been tarred and feathered and ran out of town on a rail. Can't blame them. Makes me more supportive of DD with them swinging gonads. Hope he has Rod Wilks for a body guard next season.
 
#79
#79
Ok, a point that I have not seen made is......

Please remember that CDD will also be able to have a better supporting cast (i.e. Assistant Coaches) around him than he ever could have had a La. Tech.....

Wonder what kind of difference that will make?

I will not pass judgment on his coaching abilities until I have seen a team he has fielded here play, and he has a chance to go through 1 full recruiting class on his own.

CDD, you were handed a mess, but I'm behind you! Good luck!!!
 
#80
#80
FEARinSEC said:
Ok, a point that I have not seen made is......

Please remember that CDD will also be able to have a better supporting cast (i.e. Assistant Coaches) around him than he ever could have had a La. Tech.....

Wonder what kind of difference that will make?

I will not pass judgment on his coaching abilities until I have seen a team he has fielded here play, and he has a chance to go through 1 full recruiting class on his own.

CDD, you were handed a mess, but I'm behind you! Good luck!!!
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DAD GUM IT! There's that logic thingy again. We gotta drown that sucker.
 
#83
#83
I find it hard to believe that people say they are behind Dooley and keep bringing up the 17- 20 please get over it he is our coach and he is the future of Tenn football.i true believe if he was 37-0 someone would find fault with the fact it was La Tech can we please move on
 
#84
#84
VolGirlinMaryvill said:
Let me say up front: I am 100% behind and pulling for our new coach. I think he brings some class and integrity to this program that are exactly what we need in the current climate. I like his reume (learning under Saban) and his pedigree (learning under his dad). I hope that, given time, he can get us headed in the right direction.

The one thing that keeps nagging at me is his losing record at La. Tech. He did take them to a bowl win a year ago, but his overall record is nothing to be excited about. It this misleading (did he have La.Tech on the rise despite the record), or does the record indicate he might be over his head in the SEC, especially given the coaches he's got to go against?
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No one should be concerned with his record. It's LA TECH! They play SEC teams and travel long distances for road games. You can't even recruit there, because you are recruiting against LSU, other SEC schools, and all the Texas schools.

The key thing to remember is that he coached for 7 years under Sabin. Not many coaches survive that long under him. Sabin thought enough of him to take him to the Dolphins. If Sabin says he can coach then he can. And don't forget he was the recruiting coordinater for some top 5 classes at LSU. We will be fine, Dooley can coach.
 
#86
#86
Please remember that CDD will also be able to have a better supporting cast (i.e. Assistant Coaches) around him than he ever could have had a La. Tech.....

Appears as though 1 out of the 4 coaches he has hired has real measurable success.
Another of the 4 has had limited experience but has been successful
the other 2 appear to be bubbas getting their first shot at the big leagues.

I await the final hires....
 
#88
#88
Since wins and losses are a common barometer for coaches, I believe the record has merit. I just don't think it is everything. It is conceivable that by also being the AD in addition to the coach, it may have fragmented his effort somewhat. Before this hire, if you ask me if UT should hire a coach who couldn't win in the WAC I would have said H-NO! But he did impress me in the initial press conference. I'm also encouraged by Thompson and Chaney remaining on the staff.

It is absolutely the worst time to sign a new HC less than 3 weeks before NSD. It is also the worst time to find assistant coaches and I would rather sacrifice this signing class rather than hire the wrong coaches. We're in a bad spot. If CDD can hire and recruit effectively during this time, our future is in good hands.

I wish him all the success in the world and will support our team regardless.
 
#89
#89
Dont care about his past record. Im interested in his future record....

whats Cutcliffe's record at DUKE?
 
#90
#90
Mason72 said:
Dont care about his past record. Im interested in his future record....

whats Cutcliffe's record at DUKE?
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You can throw in his record at Ole Miss too ... that's why he would blow as a head coach here. I'm up in the air on Dooley, but I know it was still better than Cutcliffe.
 
#92
#92
When he was first hired his record bothered me quite a bit and so did the fact that he was coming from La. Tech...La. Tech ? WTF !?!?!?!?

However after looking further into his record and looking at the actual schedule played by La. Tech it didn't bother me quite as bad.

Some of the replies here still scare me a little BUT overall I think he'll do good here with a better supporting cast.

I also think that the fact that he doesn't have to double as the Athletics Director will help him alot so he can stay focused on football ONLY.

Fingers crossed and DD you have my support. :rock:
 
#93
#93
His record at LA Tech concerns me, but if that happens at UT, his record will make my blood boil.

Basically, I'm ready for good football from the Vols.

If he goes to a bowl game this year and finishes above .500, that's probably a good season and not cause for concern. If he follows a season like that with a good recruiting class, I'll feel better.

But, really by 2011, I was thinking we'd be competitive for the SEC championship. By default, of course, winning the SEC makes a team a serious contender for the National Championship since winning one means winning the other as long as you get invited to beat whatever 'weak sister' contender the rest of the nation can put up.

At this point, though, I seriously question whether DD can produce a championship team at this level. The SEC is brutal.
 
#94
#94
Derek Dooley has a better WL record as a HC than Lil Lane had when UT hired him and there were big "red flags" flying concerning Lil Lane's questionable character. Would UT have even hired Lil Lane if Monte hadn't been part of the package? According to people who really know what Derek Dooley is all about, like Nick Saban and Will Muschamp, Derek Dooley has what it takes to be a great HC if given the opportunity at a great program. UT fits the bill as a great program. There is always some risk with a coaching hire. Hiring a guy who was well mentored, has outstanding character, is a very good fit and views the job as a great destination job are extremely important -- especially given UT's current situation. Dooley is a much better and far less risky hire than the last one was -- by a mile.
 
#95
#95
CLK at the helm of TN struck fear in the hearts of the opposing programs from his coaching staff and their ability to recruit.

DD makes you sleep like a baby at night because you don't feel like your program will be threatened anytime in the near future.

You can double talk all you want Tidal but the facts are facts. It is amazing how fans from within the SEC have come on here and shown support for Dooley. The reason for the support is all of you guys can breathe a sigh of relief.
 
#96
#96
GmanTN said:
CLK at the helm of TN struck fear in the hearts of the opposing programs from his coaching staff and their ability to recruit.

DD makes you sleep like a baby at night because you don't feel like your program will be threatened anytime in the near future.

You can double talk all you want Tidal but the facts are facts. It is amazing how fans from within the SEC have come on here and shown support for Dooley. The reason for the support is all of you guys can breathe a sigh of relief.
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Not.
 
#97
#97
wow his season could have been alot different with several close losses and from what i have heard alot of injuries he did with what he had. IT'S FREAKING LA TECH he did great.
 
#98
#98
Volfan8282 said:
You can throw in his record at Ole Miss too ... that's why he would blow as a head coach here. I'm up in the air on Dooley, but I know it was still better than Cutcliffe.
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44 and 22 ... 4 - 1 in bowl games ....

seems like he improved an Ole Miss team by 2-3 wins a year

Seems like he has taken Duke from being a 0 win or a 1 win team ...to be being a 4 or 5 win team in just 2 seasons.

Seems like he came back to a 5 -6 Vols team , they then went 9-4 and 10-4 ....he left and they went 5-7. I could use me some 9-4 right about now.

hard to argue the results ..unless you don't know them , then maybe you can call them bad

some coaches go into a bad program and improve them by maybe 1 game in a three year period ...

I really hope Dooley does well for the sake of the Vols. However , he has nothing on his resume to suggest that he can turn this boat around. Cutt has shown consistantly that he can improve a program dramtically . The results just don't lie. Not really fair to dog the guy when we were all basking in the success he brought us in 06 and 07 ...and then watched if fall apart again when he left.

So now that I have mapped it out for you ...how exactly do you know that CDD is a better coach than CDC ? I see 1 coach improving a bad program by 8 games in a 2 year period ...and 1 improving a bad program 1 game in 3 years. I see one with proven success in the SEC and one with none .

I am not tearing down CDD ...but blind baseless comparisions like this just blow my mind .
 
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#99
#99
Basically it comes down to this. Either behind Dooley and support the Vols, or find a new team to root for.
 
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