How does Losing in 2OT mean we will lose to a horrible UF team?

[KBVol]

Lol every year for the past 4 everyone says we will beat Florida this year

Haha, I know. It's unreal. I hope and pray we finally beat Florida this year, but why in the world would I predict something to happen that I've seen happen so very few times in my lifetime? I'll be pulling for em, just will never predict nor believe it til I see it.

 

[A_Vol_n_Hog_Country]

Those Arkansas recruits will come to UT.

I'd like to have some of their o-line come this way.

 

[photovol]

Do yourself a favor OP, look up the wins the Vols have had in the last 40 years against the Gators as well as all the defeats and see what the winning percentage is....go ahead

 

[volomon]

By saying Florida is horrible once again VolNation is setting it's self up for disappointment and letdown.. I'm just saying..

any team that has a good defense is not terrible

 

[photovol]

Do yourself a favor OP, look up the wins the Vols have had in the last 40 years against the Gators as well as all the defeats and see what the winning percentage is....go ahead

Reality is not always good is it there champ

 

[tng8r]

I was impatient and searched out some stats.
Hardin's long last year was 36. This year it's 37.
His percentage is 52% for career but his freshman year was awful (33%) which skewed the numbers downward.
Only missed one extra point in career (this year).

Hardin had a fg of 52 yards last year. 7-10 on the season. Frankie Velez was our main kicker 12-14 with a long of 40.

 

[McDad]

Hardin had a fg of 52 yards last year. 7-10 on the season. Frankie Velez was our main kicker 12-14 with a long of 40.

Of course he did. LOS at 36 yard line, + 10 yard endzone, + 7 yards for ball placement on FG = 53 yards. Bt the stats count it from th LOS, correct?

I got the stats online from the Gainesville Newspaper.

eta. My fault: the 36 and 37 were both this season. I didnt see last year's long. Commence e-bragging at my expense.

 

[tng8r]

Of course he did. LOS at 36 yard line, + 10 yard endzone, + 7 yards for ball placement on FG = 53 yards. Bt the stats count it from th LOS, correct?

I got the stats online from the Gainesville Newspaper.

eta. My fault: the 36 and 37 were both this season. I didnt see last year's long. Commence e-bragging at my expense.

No worries...I just remember he was the long fg specialist last year is why it caught my attention. I will forgive you this time!! :happy:

 

[VolsRule]

muschamp left the fla program in shambles---it will take their coach 2-3 years to get enough talent to compete in the sec on a weekly basis

 

[dduncan4163]

I understand that the end of the game was a disappointment. And I understand why people are mad at Butch. But before the games most people were thinking, "I'd be ecstatic with a win, but a close loss shows significant progress". Now Tennessee loses in 2OT (thanks to some seriously bad calls, unlucky injuries, and far too conservative playcalling) and people start to question if Tennessee can beat a seriously down Florida team, who should be (and probably will end up being) an underdog to Kentucky.

If there is a big game for Tennessee to lose and perhaps learn how not to preserve a lead. Which game would you choose?
Oklahoma (non-conference)
Georgia (obviously not)
Alabama
or Florida?

There were some huge negatives in the game, but almost all of them are fixable (I think Butch will learn a lot from the game, as Tennessee has never been in that position before)
But I believe for every negative, there were at least 2 positives to take from the game.
go vols

This Florida is far from horrible. They may not be world beater but they are far from bad. We have the talent to beat them this year but I will have to see it to believe it.

 

[dduncan4163]

muschamp left the fla program in shambles---it will take their coach 2-3 years to get enough talent to compete in the sec on a weekly basis

They are lagging bad on the O-Line but they are far from in shambles. Their D is good enough to keep them in nearly every game they play this season.

 

[AllVolForLife_16]

Our best shot at beating Florida is our run game. Our O-line has to open some lanes for Hurd, Kamara, and Dobbs to exploit. No excuse for Kamara to only touch the ball 4 times in a game, that's completely underutilizing talent. If and when Florida decides to blitz, we need more designed screens to Hurd or Kamara as well. I believe we had one maybe two the entire game against Oklahoma. Our offense has to gameplan around the blitz or we will be doomed for the rest of the season. Debord needs to earn his money.

 

[sjt18]

I'm talking big picture here.

Tennessee is coming off a 7-6 season. Florida is coming off a 7-5 season. The last two head to head meetings were an embarrassment to the game of football.

None of which has anything at all to do with this season. You have a completely new staff. UT has a new OC. The returning players are all a year more mature and possibly better. Both teams lost several players who played prominent roles in last year's contest... for good or ill.

Essentially, there is no "big picture" in any way that is meaningful to the upcoming game.

Tennessee played a tight game with Oklahoma that they could have won. Florida played a tight game with Florida State that they could have won.

Which would matter if this year's UF team had played this year's FSU team in the first two weeks of the season. The comparison basis to the extent there is one is BGSU+OU vs NMSU+ECU.

NMSU is horrible and the game ended a blow out but you know it was a 28-13 game with a little over a minute left in the 1st half. ECU who also doesn't look very strong played a back and forth game with UF.

I could go on and on.

Probably... but if you continued along that same line of logic it would be nothing but "words".

The response was what were the numbers with Dobbs and with Worley. I argued Dobbs faced one good defense, Missouri, and we saw what happened. Enter 2015 and Tennessee saw another good defense and we saw what happened.

That is being roundly debated here as you know. For whatever it might be worth though, OU this year is a significantly better and more talented team than MU last year.

I have never thought Worley was as bad as many here wanted to claim. I've long said that Dobbs' and UT's success this year depended on him learning to throw deep. We'll see.

People like to think there's a lot of difference because, beyond homerism, they see Pig, Hurd, North, Malone, etc. But, where's the production against a quality opponent?

There's a difference because they're more talented than what UF can currently put on the field. The question is whether the coaches can get it out of them.

Until proven otherwise, and I don't claim Florida is the measuring stick, there isn't much between the two.

And trying to claim there is, at this point, is wishful thinking.

Still a lot of opportunity to prove that is incorrect.

UF has a good D. Good enough to turn a close game. Unless Jones changes his philosophy, he will try to manage the game... it will be close whether it should be or not.

However, based on the current rosters, match ups, and season to date... UT should win.

 

[sjt18]

bowling green would crush ecu lol talk about seeing things how you want

Nope. Just looking at how they played. BGSU beat Maryland in their other game. ECU struggled with FCS Towson in their other one.

ecu beat unc and va tech last yr

And what on earth do you think that has to do with this year? Their OC and part of the staff moved on to OU. They lost their leading rusher and a SR QB who threw for almost 5000 yds. They lost their top two receivers and then their 4th leading receiver as well. I believe they lost about half their D starters too, right?

They ARE NOT the same team.

also went 10-3 and beat nc state in 2013 they;ve been pretty good for awhile now

And again... that has virtually no bearing on this year's team.

They have been 6-7, 5-7, 8-5, 10-3, and 8-5 during Ruffin's tenure. He's 1-3 in bowls with a loss to Ohio from the MAC. Interesting that what appears to have been a more talented ECU team lost to UF 28-20 in your bowl.