How and Why Fulmer needs to Go

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colliervol84

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Fulmer did a lot for this program in the PAST, however presently he is destroying our reputation and no one is above criticism. After the Florida debacle I've read on three sites (Espn, Sportsline, Rivals) about how UT is no longer a contender in the SEC and a fallen superpower. This stuff gets to recruits and further poisons our program.

If Fulmer loves UT like he says he does he realizes its time to step aside. You can't beat your children down and say you truly love them. If you love them you stop beating them. The SEC has had an awakening in the past 4-5 years and UT football has not been a part of it. Fulmer either turns a blind eye to what he is doing to the program or only cares about himself and thinks he can turn things around. If you want an idea of what happens when leaders have these characteristics turn on MSNBC and take a look at Wall Street.

How: I respect Fulmer but he needs to stop beating his child destroying the little credibility our school has left. The booster organization or an organization of fans needs to take out a full page ad in the Knoxville paper, a respectful ad thanking Fulmer for all he's done but asking him if he really loves UT football to do what is right and step aside so that we can save our precious program. As fans we can yap all day on message boards about our discontent but until that discontent becomes more than just boo's at the games, when that discontent becomes public Fulmer will have to show his true colors: show his love for the program and step aside or be selfish and continue to commandeer the Titanic that is our current program.


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Your first sentence was complete garbage. Don't expect anyone to take anything following it seriously.
 
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I will agree that the first sentence is a bit off-putting. Just from the perspective of writing a persuasive piece, it alienates a lot of your intended audience.

Aside from that, I thought it was a well written post.

If Fulmer really loves the University as much as you say, how could he not step aside at this point? This is painful to watch.

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Fulmer doesn't love UT like you think he does then. He's not going to step aside unless Hamilton tells him he doesn't have any other options.
 
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Vader, read on what I'm saying is Fulmer did do a lot for the program in the PAST but since 2001 he's been a terrible coach winning just the right games to stay a little bit longer and dig our hole a little bit deeper. I was just trying to be respectful because I realize a lot of people get offended by Fulmer bashing. To be honest I can't stand the guy. How can our team be disciplined and effective when Fulmer is not even disciplined in his personal life. Anyone who is that overweight obviously can't control their own habits so how can they control an entire football team.
 
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I understand completely. My only comment was based on the short attention spans around here. I will lay good odds that you get some contentious replies from people who get no further than your first sentence (see post #2).

I am in no way on the Fulmer band wagon. I have never been what you would call an avid supporter of his. Heck, I was calling for his head in '96 after years of futility against Florida and losing to Memphis. We did, however, go on to have some good years with him as a coach.

I tend to shy away from casting stones about his weight. I was a lineman in high school and I empathize with anyone who struggles to maintain a slender physique while working his hours and being exposed to the food that he is. It has been a lifelong struggle for me, as well.

Anyway, welcome to the board.
 
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vader said:
I understand completely. My only comment was based on the short attention spans around here. I will lay good odds that you get some contentious replies from people who get no further than your first sentence (see post #2).

I am in no way on the Fulmer band wagon. I have never been what you would call an avid supporter of his. Heck, I was calling for his head in '96 after years of futility against Florida and losing to Memphis. We did, however, go on to have some good years with him as a coach.

I tend to shy away from casting stones about his weight. I was a lineman in high school and I empathize with anyone who struggles to maintain a slender physique while working his hours and being exposed to the food that he is. It has been a lifelong struggle for me, as well.

Anyway, welcome to the board.
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Your third sentence sucks. (insert smiley) Still, you should head on back to that other place.
 
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Hmmm, I must be tired. I don't get "that other place". Oh, well...
 
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Stick around and post often. Just try to have fun and definitely keep a thick skin.
 
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How much is fulmer's buyout? Someone at my office yesterday said $5 mil, but that seems pretty high. Whatever it is, big money boosters need to get the cash together to get it done.
 
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colliervol84 said:
Fulmer did a lot for this program in the PAST, however presently he is destroying our reputation and no one is above criticism. After the Florida debacle I've read on three sites (Espn, Sportsline, Rivals) about how UT is no longer a contender in the SEC and a fallen superpower. This stuff gets to recruits and further poisons our program.

If Fulmer loves UT like he says he does he realizes its time to step aside. You can't beat your children down and say you truly love them. If you love them you stop beating them. The SEC has had an awakening in the past 4-5 years and UT football has not been a part of it. Fulmer either turns a blind eye to what he is doing to the program or only cares about himself and thinks he can turn things around. If you want an idea of what happens when leaders have these characteristics turn on MSNBC and take a look at Wall Street.

How: I respect Fulmer but he needs to stop beating his child destroying the little credibility our school has left. The booster organization or an organization of fans needs to take out a full page ad in the Knoxville paper, a respectful ad thanking Fulmer for all he's done but asking him if he really loves UT football to do what is right and step aside so that we can save our precious program. As fans we can yap all day on message boards about our discontent but until that discontent becomes more than just boo's at the games, when that discontent becomes public Fulmer will have to show his true colors: show his love for the program and step aside or be selfish and continue to commandeer the Titanic that is our current program.


Thoughts.....
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I think that your opening statement is fair. Fulmer has been good for UT and UT has been good for Fulmer. The program is falling behind and Fulmer is the captain of the ship and all responsibility falls on his shoulders. I respect the man and it pains me to feel the way that I do now. I believe that the time has come to make a change and it would be nice if Fulmer would see it that way; however, for financial reasons and vanity reasons, I doubt that he will step down. If he steps down, he gets no buyout. If he steps down, he is admitting that Meyers, Saban, Richt and others got the best of him. I believe that he is a fighter and I don't think he will easily admit that things have passed him by.

So, my best guess is that we are stuck with him all the way to the bottom of the ocean. The silver lining is that his predecessor will not have the "Ghost of Fulmer" shadowing him.
 
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Two-thirds of the SEC is at least receiving votes in the polls. The Vols are in the third that is not, along with Arkansas, Ole Miss and Miss. State.
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my dad used to always tell me that you can tell where you are in life by the people around you.
 
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Perception is reality.

or -- Perception becomes reality.

No matter what each of us thinks of Fulmer, if the national media says he is done, he is done. The young players will go to other programs based on rumors alone. Phil starts coaching to save his job and becomes even more bitter.

The game last year showed a talent gap, even with a young UF team. This year was clearly coaching.

We will know a lot by half time this Saturday. If there is any pride left, we come out swinging. If AU goes out to a big lead and you see UT sitting on the bench with their heads down -- it is over, over, over...
 
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colliervol84 said:
Fulmer did a lot for this program in the PAST, however presently he is destroying our reputation and no one is above criticism. After the Florida debacle I've read on three sites (Espn, Sportsline, Rivals) about how UT is no longer a contender in the SEC and a fallen superpower. This stuff gets to recruits and further poisons our program.

If Fulmer loves UT like he says he does he realizes its time to step aside. You can't beat your children down and say you truly love them. If you love them you stop beating them. The SEC has had an awakening in the past 4-5 years and UT football has not been a part of it. Fulmer either turns a blind eye to what he is doing to the program or only cares about himself and thinks he can turn things around. If you want an idea of what happens when leaders have these characteristics turn on MSNBC and take a look at Wall Street.

How: I respect Fulmer but he needs to stop beating his child destroying the little credibility our school has left. The booster organization or an organization of fans needs to take out a full page ad in the Knoxville paper, a respectful ad thanking Fulmer for all he's done but asking him if he really loves UT football to do what is right and step aside so that we can save our precious program. As fans we can yap all day on message boards about our discontent but until that discontent becomes more than just boo's at the games, when that discontent becomes public Fulmer will have to show his true colors: show his love for the program and step aside or be selfish and continue to commandeer the Titanic that is our current program.


Thoughts.....
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My thoughts are if you've been reading the other threads this has been discussed like 100 times already.
 
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