How about CJP recruiting!

[dduncan4163]

Pruitt has been here 8 months and he's already recruited us to second in the East. He's already out recruiting Muschamp and Mullen and he's yet to coach a single down in Knoxville. Not to mention that we're still in great shape to land two more 5 stars which would almost guarantee a top ten finish. I don't see how things could be gone any better to this point.

 

[dduncan4163]

If Pruitt can recruit this well this soon can you imagine what he can do with a winning season or two under his belt. A little of patience please.

 

[Pruitt Will Do It]

Pruitt has been here 8 months and he's already recruited us to second in the East. He's already out recruiting Muschamp and Mullen and he's yet to coach a single down in Knoxville. Not to mention that we're still in great shape to land two more 5 stars which would almost guarantee a top ten finish. I don't see how things could be gone any better to this point.

He learned his recruiting well from Jimbo Fisher,Mark Richt and Nick Satan

 

[dduncan4163]

He learned his recruiting well from Jimbo Fisher,Mark Richt and Nick Satan

It amazes me how some can't appreciate the work he's put in already. This class is loaded in the trenches and is argurebly the deepest I've ever seen in the defensive backfield. Beef and speed is what we lack and Pruitt is addressing those needs extremely well imo

 

[Pruitt Will Do It]

It amazes me how some can't appreciate the work he's put in already. This class is loaded in the trenches and is argurebly the deepest I've ever seen in the defensive backfield. Beef and speed is what we lackh and Pruitt is addressing those needs extremely well imo

A lot of clueless people think he can turn things around immediately like Nick Satan did at Alabama or Jimbo Fisher did at FSU. Nick and Jimbo had more talent coming into the job than Coach Pruitt has right now.

 

[jakez4ut]

It amazes me how some can't appreciate the work he's put in already. This class is loaded in the trenches and is argurebly the deepest I've ever seen in the defensive backfield. Beef and speed is what we lackh and Pruitt is addressing those needs extremely well imo

5 OL, 5 DL and 4 DB's right now...and likely will be 6 OL and 5 DB's....at the end...... yeah. agreed.

 

[garyp194]

Pruitt and this staff have proven track records in finding, recruiting and coaching up talent. I trust their opinion of the players they sign more than the self appointed experts on the recruiting sites. Also much more than fans who seem to think recruiting is just like Christmas shopping from an old Sears or Montgomery Ward catalog. Rankings are mostly an opinion from lots of people, most of them probably never having played or coached a day in their lives.

 

[KBVol]

everything is fluid until the nli is signed.

that said, there isn't any "sudden interest" from top tier recruits. the work has been done, and we're in the position we are in with guys like crouch, wright, hill, bogle to'ot'o etc......because of it. those guys have options and certainly they'll be paying attention to what we look like on the field.

but as we sit here today, the most likely scenario is actually closing with 2 5*'s and a 4*. whatever happens in the rankings happens. it really doesn't matter, so long as we'r enot in the 20's and everyone is in the top 10. the difference between #11 and #5 isn't a ton. and the top of the class will compete favorably with most anyone.

there's just way too much attention and emphasis being placed on the rank. if we're 11th instead of 10th, does that really matter? or 6th instead of 5th?

anwyay, your most likely scenario is related to the math on how the class is figured, and has nothing to do with what this class will actually mean to how this program develops over the next couple years.

The difference in 5th or 6th doesn’t matter, neither does 10th or 11th. However, there’s a lot of difference between 5th and 15th, that’s documented.

Pruitt has done a excellent job thus far, especially given the pitiful circumstances of the program. But he’s gotta finish strong here with the highly rated guys you and I know he’s in very good shape with, he’s gotta get 2-3 of those guys at worst, he just does. We know he’s filling needs nicely ....love what he’s done at defensive back, we have our QB, love the focus on both OL and DL, think Keyton will be a star at WR....still have some needs to fill and, quite honestly, we need to fill em with Wright, Crouch, Bogle and guys of their “recruiting stature” and talent. We can underestimate the importance of recruiting rankings for classes all we want, but as teams like Alabama, Ohio State and now Georgia have shown, we do so at our peril, because over short and long term, it matters.

 

[jakez4ut]

The difference in 5th or 6th doesn’t matter, neither does 10th or 11th. However, there’s a lot of difference between 5th and 15th, that’s documented.

Pruitt has done a excellent job thus far, especially given the pitiful circumstances of the program. But he’s gotta finish strong here with the highly rated guys you and I know he’s in very good shape with, he’s gotta get 2-3 of those guys at worst, he just does. We know he’s filling needs nicely ....love what he’s done at defensive back, we have our QB, love the focus on both OL and DL, think Keyton will be a star at WR....still have some needs to fill and, quite honestly, we need to fill em with Wright, Crouch, Bogle and guys of their “recruiting stature” and talent. We can underestimate the importance of recruiting rankings for classes all we want, but as teams like Alabama, Ohio State and now Georgia have shown, we do so at our peril, because over short and long term, it matters.

ok, so we need to recruuit a high level. i don't think anyone disputes that. and also why i said that so long we're not in the 20's and everyone else is in teh top 10, we should be ok. the differences between classes inside the top 10, while there, are not as great as some seem to believe. we get a top 10 class this year, follow it next with another top 10/5 class, are we really doing poorly? no. especially considering what needs you filled with this class. the lone caveat to that is that Bama and UGA are recruiting at levels not really seen by anyone else in the top 10. so, not sure how that shakes out, but we know what it looks like on the field when there's a sizeable gap.

i think the issue here is getting caught up in some of these #'s, that aren't final, and are extremely fluid. and different sites have different criteria and motiviations for who and how they rank.

my only point is the book isn't written on this cycle, though the chapters we have available are VERY GOOD.

what i see in this thread is a bunch of star gazers looking at the cover the book and saying "this doesnt' look good, and no way it could end well"....

a lot of very uninformed opinions in here.

 

[KBVol]

everything is fluid until the nli is signed.

that said, there isn't any "sudden interest" from top tier recruits. the work has been done, and we're in the position we are in with guys like crouch, wright, hill, bogle to'ot'o etc......because of it. those guys have options and certainly they'll be paying attention to what we look like on the field.

but as we sit here today, the most likely scenario is actually closing with 2 5*'s and a 4*. whatever happens in the rankings happens. it really doesn't matter, so long as we'r enot in the 20's and everyone is in the top 10. the difference between #11 and #5 isn't a ton. and the top of the class will compete favorably with most anyone.

there's just way too much attention and emphasis being placed on the rank. if we're 11th instead of 10th, does that really matter? or 6th instead of 5th?

anwyay, your most likely scenario is related to the math on how the class is figured, and has nothing to do with what this class will actually mean to how this program develops over the next couple years.

The difference in 5th or 6th doesn’t matter, neither does 10th or 11th. However, there’s a lot of difference between 5th and 15th, that’s documented.

Pruitt has done a excellent job thus far, especially given the pitiful circumstances of the program. But he’s gotta finish strong here with the highly rated guys you and I know he’s in very good shape with, he’s gotta get 2-3 of those guys at worst, he just does. We know he’s filling needs nicely ....love what he’s done at defensive back, we have our QB, love the focus on both OL and DL, think Keyton will be a star at WR....still have some needs to fill and, quite honestly, we need to fill em with Wright, Crouch, Bogle and guys of their “recruiting stature” and talent. We can underestimate the importance of recruiting rankings for classes all we want, but as teams like Alabama, Ohio State and Clemson have shown, we do so at our peril, because over short and long term, it matters.

 

[jakez4ut]

double post KB?

 

[Pruitt Will Do It]

double post KB?

It was so nice that he said it twice

 

[butchna]

He learned his recruiting well from Jimbo Fisher,Mark Richt and Nick Satan

While he was “learning”, he smoked us at those stops. Hated hearing his name pretty early in his career. Even when we landed a player we were competing with him over, the recruit seemed to feel guilty about letting him down...taking the winning feeling down a whole tad.

 

[dduncan4163]

It was so nice that he said it twice

It's worth repeating

 

[HessHallHeath]

A lot of clueless dumb people think Tennessee can automatically be like Alabama,Georgia and Clemson They're just delusional morons in my opinion It will take awhile to get to where everyone wants the Tennessee football program to be

You seem to be the clueless (I'll not stoop to your level and call my fellow vol fans dumb) but when coming off a winless sec season and the worst season in school history and we're pulling in some of the best recruits in the nation including possibly the best OL class ever then assuming CJP and co. can pull off the wins we should win and mix in a few toss ups and maybe a upset or two then we will start taking back the guys we traditionally raid from South Carolina, North Carolina and continue raiding Georgia then we will continue to pull top 5 to 10 classes. Hell, even Lyle pulled top 5 classes to Tennessee. Most didn't pan out but CJP recruits studs this team needs not 4 and 5 star players to boost ratings and fill the roster with guys that didn't fit the system or it's needs.

 

[swampfoxfan]

I agree with the posters who point out that it does not matter so much how many 5/4*s, but what position they play. Recruiting 2 5* tailbacks each year will surely boost your class ranking, but only one is one the field. Without some 5* OLs not much is going to be good for those RBs.

 

[dcm3w]

It's not special and we won't stay in the top 10. We're already almost full and our avg. Is below 90 while everyone above us, minus aTm still has a lot more room and avg above 90. For example Ohio state next up at 9 only has 15 players with an avg rating of 92.4.

In before we're lucky to be here after last season.And our players will get bumped.

Truth is, we're only 6th in the sec. That's middle of the road boys. We have to do better

What's he got to sell?

 

[jakez4ut]

I agree with the posters who point out that it does not matter so much how many 5/4*s, but what position they play. Recruiting 2 5* tailbacks each year will surely boost your class ranking, but only one is one the field. Without some 5* OLs not much is going to be good for those RBs.

to add to that.....

when you look at the OL we have coming in, the WR we have coming in, the RB's we have and have coming in, the TE's....

that will speak volumes to other skill positioni players, qb's etc....as to just what kind of chance you could have to be successful here.

we're not going to win a national title because of this class. but it could very well lay a foundation for one or two in the near future that could.

 

[sameolvol]

It's not special and we won't stay in the top 10. We're already almost full and our avg. Is below 90 while everyone above us, minus aTm still has a lot more room and avg above 90. For example Ohio state next up at 9 only has 15 players with an avg rating of 92.4.

In before we're lucky to be here after last season.And our players will get bumped.

Truth is, we're only 6th in the sec. That's middle of the road boys. We have to do better

I agree...but must insert a caveat. A 5* or two would change that formula; possibly keeping this group within the top 10 on NSD. Top 15 is where the '19 class'll probably wind up. I wouldn't worry about CJP doing better with the 2020 group. Are you really concerned?

 

[TN Outlaw]

There's so much that can and will change from now to NSD, there's no use in judging CJP just yet. Maybe on how he is doing so far but how the season plays out, win or lose, how the team looks and how CJP's coaching works out, how other teams seasons end up, will all make a huge difference in how all of these classes end up.

Not only can you not judge this class because UT nearly has a full roster and most teams ranked around us still have a good bit of room for more players but also because so much will change for every team based on this football season.

After the poo show that was last season, I'm glad to see CJP having the class at no. 10 right now especially seeing what players/positions he has placed the most importance on. That gives me confidence that CJP knows how to build a successful program.

I will say that he will have to take a big step forward in recruiting if UT is going to compete for championships in the future. Middle of the road just won't get us anywhere when we for sure will play 2 of the best teams in the nation every year just as regular season games. Didn't CJP say he guarantees the No.1 class this year?

 

[jakez4ut]

There's so much that can and will change from now to NSD, there's no use in judging CJP just yet. Maybe on how he is doing so far but how the season plays out, win or lose, how the team looks and how CJP's coaching works out, how other teams seasons end up, will all make a huge difference in how all of these classes end up.

Not only can you not judge this class because UT nearly has a full roster and most teams ranked around us still have a good bit of room for more players but also because so much will change for every team based on this football season.

After the poo show that was last season, I'm glad to see CJP having the class at no. 10 right now especially seeing what players/positions he has placed the most importance on. That gives me confidence that CJP knows how to build a successful program.

I will say that he will have to take a big step forward in recruiting if UT is going to compete for championships in the future. Middle of the road just won't get us anywhere when we for sure will play 2 of the best teams in the nation every year just as regular season games. Didn't CJP say he guarantees the No.1 class this year?

he did not guarantee a #1 class. he said we'd be at the top. the top can be defined how ever you like, but he didn't say #1.

as to the rest, i agree with most all of it.

as for juding CJP, i would only say that up to this point, everything i've seen falls squarely in the categor of "so far so good".

 

[a vol n tears]

COACHING COACHING COACHING. That is what brings in the recruits. I can show evidence that last years records mean nothing. I can show evidence that you have to win to recruit, and I can show that you can win without top 5 classes. Teams only play 22 and back ups so eighty five 4 - 5* players on a team doesn't mean you automatically can beat a team with thirty 4 - 5* players. Kirby Smart won 7 games his first year and had a great recruiting class immediately following. Florida State sucked last year, has a new coach without the recruiting hype of Pruitt, and is in the top 10 rankings now. Gary Patterson wins without top 10 classes. USCw has top 10 and is not a powerhouse. Franklin took over a dumpster fire at Penn State and won pretty quickly. Had the 6th ranked class last year. We as fans have no idea what this class means to TENN's future, good or bad. Coaches may over coach or under coach. If they get the most out of them will be what makes the difference. If its all about the rankings, we already know what games we will win or lose this years. We'll be 9-3 and know we will beat WVU. How many think we will beat every team on our schedule that we have a better 4 yr recruiting ranking

 

[Otis07]

It amazes me how some can't appreciate the work he's put in already. This class is loaded in the trenches and is argurebly the deepest I've ever seen in the defensive backfield. Beef and speed is what we lack and Pruitt is addressing those needs extremely well imo

I don't believe anyone has thrown Coach Pruitt under the bus other than that bufoon Murray

 

[KBVol]

ok, so we need to recruuit a high level. i don't think anyone disputes that. and also why i said that so long we're not in the 20's and everyone else is in teh top 10, we should be ok. the differences between classes inside the top 10, while there, are not as great as some seem to believe. we get a top 10 class this year, follow it next with another top 10/5 class, are we really doing poorly? no. especially considering what needs you filled with this class. the lone caveat to that is that Bama and UGA are recruiting at levels not really seen by anyone else in the top 10. so, not sure how that shakes out, but we know what it looks like on the field when there's a sizeable gap.

i think the issue here is getting caught up in some of these #'s, that aren't final, and are extremely fluid. and different sites have different criteria and motiviations for who and how they rank.

my only point is the book isn't written on this cycle, though the chapters we have available are VERY GOOD.

what i see in this thread is a bunch of star gazers looking at the cover the book and saying "this doesnt' look good, and no way it could end well"....

a lot of very uninformed opinions in here.

Nobody’s saying he’s doing “poorly”. I said he’s done very good thus far, but he still has work to do....and that for this class to be where it needs to be, he has to close strong with Wright, Crouch, Bogle, et al. I’m not criticizing, just assessing....there’s more work to do to make this class what we need it to be....we can’t be 15th-20th in the country and 7 or 8 in the SEC. History tells us it matters that our classes finish as high as possible in the rankings, whether we like it or not.

Very good class so far, more work to do to make it great, that’s all I’m saying.

 

[Boca Vol]

Pruitt has been here 8 months and he's already recruited us to second in the East. He's already out recruiting Muschamp and Mullen and he's yet to coach a single down in Knoxville. Not to mention that we're still in great shape to land two more 5 stars which would almost guarantee a top ten finish. I don't see how things could be gone any better to this point.

Do you not recall the summer of '13 when UT was ranked #1 in recruiting?

Needless to say, it's a bit pre-mature to crack open the bubbly or shut down the program based on subjective recruiting rankings.