Hope our players realize

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Special Ed said:
Certain domestic substances are just as harmful.
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Not being a jerk but name them? The concentration of tar and smoke from standing directly over a wood burning pile or inhaling any drug you smoke would be many parts per million higher than the chemical plant 5 Miles away.

They both suck though. Everybody should just get hi and fat on chocolate brownies.
 
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fossilfiction said:
In 2012, a study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) found that smoking cannabis does not cause significant damage to the lungs. Tobacco, however, can be extremely damaging.

The study followed a cohort of 5115 men in four US cities. Not only did the study find no correlation between habitual cannabis consumers and lung disease or cancer, the researchers found that cannabis consumers had an interesting advantage.

Habitual cannabis consumers had a greater lung capacity. Though, admittedly, the improvement was small. The herb-lovers had a 1.6% advantage over non-consuming counterparts. That’s equivalent 50 milliliters, which is about one-seventh of a soda can.

Association Between Marijuana Exposure and Pulmonary Function Over 20 Years | Psychiatry | JAMA | The JAMA Network

There is no reason for the level of ignorance concerning Marijuana. It's not what your mom, dad, pastor, school system and government said it was when they crammed their anti-weed propaganda down our throats for decades.
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It is popular to believe the pro-marijuana propaganda, if you are smoking it, but if you follow the course that the "politics" of marijuana is taking, it is really not that much different than tobacco back in the day. There were advertisements with doctors telling about all the health benefits of tobacco, back then, just like you see today for marijuana.

I work with many aspects of drug abuse, and I can tell you from personal experience and from plenty of research that there are many negative health aspects of marijuana.

Where there is a lot of money to be made, people will find a way to market it, and make it socially acceptable, if at all possible.

I know this is a football board. So, I will not belabor the point. Most people have already made up their mind, one way or another.
 
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Read what the American Lung Association says about smoking Marijuana and the damage it causes.
 
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44DivePlay said:
5 years old and several studies since don’r necessarily agree with this. The American Lung Association states the tar and chemicals from marijuana may be just as bad if not worse (tar).

And just as an FYI. I am a liberterarian but also a physician. I don’t care what you do or how much weed you smoke, as long as it doesn’t harm me or my kids. But I don’t like people using excuses that it is so much safer than other things and tobacco and whatnot.

The same things said about marijuana today were said about tobacco 50-70 years ago. Marijuana may not end up that bad but don’t act like burning something and then sucking it in your lungs is a great idea for the rest of your life.

Take it from an asthmatic that spent 3 days over Christmas in the ER with a respiratory illness on a non rebreather face mask

Marijuana use and risk of lung cancer: a 40-year cohort study. - PubMed - NCBI

Here is one of several studies showing it does increase cancer risk.

The jury is still out. It’s probably not as bad as tobacco but it sure ain’t benign.

Light em and toke me though. Don’t care that you do. Just don’t want people ignorant of risks or have the wool pulled over their eyes like was done for tobacco for years

(Oh, and a personal note. I think JAMA is a rag trash journal. Doesn’t effect this data though. NEJM and the Lancet are much less politically influenced and bought by drug companies. Can’t stand the AMA and glad to belong to my surgical specialty journal instead)
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You linked to a study that was he same age as what I linked. The study method referenced in the link tested military personal that smoked from 1969 to 1970 in Sweden. I am not sure how reliable the results are if the 5 year old study I referenced is too aged to be accurate for your liking.

Nobody is wanting to put joints in any kids hands. I have never heard anyone that supports legalization say lets give the kids weed to smoke.

I have never heard of anyone getting cancer from Marijuana. If you something that shows this has happened then please share it with us.

The things said about Marijuana 50+ years ago was that it caused white women to sleep around with black people, could cause permanent insanity, and could lead to death.

Saying it is probably safer than tobacco is a really stupid head in the sand statement from a doctor. It is safer and not even close. Tobacco kills every day. Marijuana....still no deaths as a result of using it.
 
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If they want to screw up their lungs and their brains I don't care but I would prefer them not to be blazed up on game day. And any of them that would want to get away with smoking at all would love to partake 5 minutes before running through the T because it would be a great story to tell later on. I'm looking for evidence that suggests that a bunched of stoned players leads to a better, more enjoyable experience for the fans.
 
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My ex wife smokes dope everyday. Used to be ambitious, good looking and going somewhere. Now she does nothing but smoke dope, looks 25 years older than she actually is and does 2 week stints between walmart and sonic every now and then. Good stuff.
 
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fossilfiction said:
In 2012, a study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) found that smoking cannabis does not cause significant damage to the lungs. Tobacco, however, can be extremely damaging.

The study followed a cohort of 5115 men in four US cities. Not only did the study find no correlation between habitual cannabis consumers and lung disease or cancer, the researchers found that cannabis consumers had an interesting advantage.

Habitual cannabis consumers had a greater lung capacity. Though, admittedly, the improvement was small. The herb-lovers had a 1.6% advantage over non-consuming counterparts. That’s equivalent 50 milliliters, which is about one-seventh of a soda can.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/1104848

There is no reason for the level of ignorance concerning Marijuana. It's not what your mom, dad, pastor, school system and government said it was when they crammed their anti-weed propaganda down our throats for decades.
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No ****, people need to think for themselves, just once. Worry more about the artificial **** we shove down our throats, than something natural that has benefits. They have proven smoking weed helps CTE. This nation is ass backwards. A herd of people being shepherded by the blind.
 
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Nocleats said:
How so? How will the fact that drug tests are coming and players will either be placed on suspension or dismissed due to violation of team rules if they test positive have anything to do with what students are doing or the fact that weed is no worse than beer in most peoples eyes? The fact still remains that if players don't see these tests coming, maybe they deserve to get caught do to naïve stupidity.
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Tests are not coming. Thinking that a head coach cares significantly whether his players smoke pot is extremely naïve.

Any players that test positive on the usual random tests do not face suspension or dismissal. You don’t face any sort of punishment that significant until the third positive test. Then, a player would have to miss one game. That happened this year.

You are free to have a different opinion, but the facts are that college athlete smoke marijuana, and no one cares, including their coaches. That’s at every school on every team. If a coach came in and said that they were going to have a drug test in three weeks and everybody that fails is off the team, that coach would never be able to effectively recruit another student athlete ever again. That just wouldn’t fly.

No disrespect, but you have a very Pollyanna view of college athletes and their coaches. The reality is not anything close to what you have described. I’m not going to weigh in on the discussion of whether it’s harmful or anything like that, it’s just a fact. A high percentage of college students, including the athletes that we and every other fan base cheers for, smokes pot. It happens. It happens at Tennessee, Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, everywhere you can think of, a high percentage of their athletes smoke pot. It’s just a fact.
 
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kyvol98 said:
Read up on who funds them.
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I dont smoke and wouldnt if it were legal. I believe it should be legal and i understand that there are possibly some medical benefits. Most likely pain relief, but whatever. I also understand their are industrial benefits.

But are you honestly suggesting that inhaling smoke, of any kind, into your lungs is healthy for your lungs?
 
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Weed is so incredibly common at college these days that I’m surprised we don’t have more players getting in trouble for failed drug tests. On a typical college campus in 2017, more people smoke pot on a regular basis than tobacco. And while underage drinking will always be part of college life, it is actually starting to fall out of favor ever so slightly to weed.
 
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volfannbama said:
I dont smoke and wouldnt if it were legal. I believe it should be legal and i understand that there are possibly some medical benefits. Most likely pain relief, but whatever. I also understand their are industrial benefits.

But are you honestly suggesting that inhaling smoke, of any kind, into your lungs is healthy for your lungs?
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Everyone is into edibles now anyway. I don’t like weed myself but I have some friends who keep up with the world of pot, and they tell me edibles have exploded on college campuses across the country.
 
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Vols1891 said:
Everyone is into edibles now anyway. I don’t like weed myself but I have some friends who keep up with the world of pot, and they tell me edibles have exploded on college campuses across the country.
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Im involved in the drug scene, on the enforcement side. People still smoke. All these little fads come and go, college kids smoke far more than edibles.
 
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UT Hill Man said:
Weed is no worse than alcohol and should be regulated in a similar manner. There's no need to get young people in trouble over something that's no threat to anyone.

Players ought to be able to live their lives without the threat of being suspended over using a relatively harmless natural product.
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From WebMD

Marijuana smoke is also filled with many of the same chemicals as tobacco smoke, including ammonia, hydrogen cyanide, and formaldehyde. Some of these chemicals are known to cause cancer. Most users smoke pot in a joint or water pipe, so they breathe the smoke straight into their lungs.
Brain imaging scans of heavy marijuana smokers have revealed changes in blood flow to parts of the brain involved in memory and attention. Researchers have also noted differences in the size and shape of the thalamus, the part of the brain that's involved in consciousness and information processing.
 
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fossilfiction said:
You linked to a study that was he same age as what I linked. The study method referenced in the link tested military personal that smoked from 1969 to 1970 in Sweden. I am not sure how reliable the results are if the 5 year old study I referenced is too aged to be accurate for your liking.

Nobody is wanting to put joints in any kids hands. I have never heard anyone that supports legalization say lets give the kids weed to smoke.

I have never heard of anyone getting cancer from Marijuana. If you something that shows this has happened then please share it with us.

The things said about Marijuana 50+ years ago was that it caused white women to sleep around with black people, could cause permanent insanity, and could lead to death.

Saying it is probably safer than tobacco is a really stupid head in the sand statement from a doctor. It is safer and not even close. Tobacco kills every day. Marijuana....still no deaths as a result of using it.
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Okay. Then let me link several other articles.
Including the one you ignored that said a 2-4 fold increased risk.

You are still ignoring what I said. Have all the marijuana you want. Just don’t smoke it. Smoking anything is bad for you. I am a surgical oncologist. I have encouraged a few patients the last few months to use marijuana for weight gain.

I dont care about nicotine or marijuana. The tar and smoke are the bad players.

There is no overhwhelming evidence that marijuana is a lot safer than tobacco. It may be but marijuana has not been legally studied enough to make that statement either way.

You are the one sticking your hand “stupidly in the sand” just so you can justify what you want. How about showing me 20, 30 more decently designed studies that show marijuana is safer than tobacco for sure??

You are starting an argument I don’d care about. I only care you are burning it. I am encouraging you not to inhale fumes and tar. Sorry for being a doctor and recommended you don’t do stupid crap that might hurt you.

Oh and you might want to read articles about native Americans and many other people’s who use no preservative added tobacco leaves to chew. Their cancer rates are barely above the population. Nicotine and even tobacco may not be that harmfull without all the crap and burning it. Quit coming in here acting like you KNOW it is safer. Marijuana probably is, but we aren’t sure. And it is safer to eat it or drink it then smoke it.

There is nothing “head in the sand” about wanting and waiting to see what the data says instead of making an assumption that fits my agenda like you. And thanks for calling me stupid for suggesting you don’t harm yourself by inhaling tar and just because you don’t agree. That’s an awesome and winning strategy.
 
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Slydell said:
Really? Aren't we all putting foreign substances into our lungs everyday trying to breathe the crap in the air? As an after thought, weed does no damage to the lungs and does not contribute to cancer or whatever.
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what fake news channel do you listen too? Any valid proof smoking doesnt increase your chances of lung cancer? Didn't think so.
 
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