Honest Question about CCM?

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I think CCM is a good coach, but still seems to be learning to be HC on the fly.

My question is: Does everyone REALLY believe that CCM will be here for a LONG time?

I'm not asking if you believe he's going to be fired. I really believe CCM has his eye on a better bball conference or a team he is more familiar with. I get a sense that Tennessee to CCM is what Cincy was to Coach Jones.

I think that extension crap is smokescreen for something else.
 
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Dougie_D said:
I think CCM is a good coach, but still seems to be learning to be HC on the fly.

My question is: Does everyone REALLY believe that CCM will be here for a LONG time?

I'm not asking if you believe he's going to be fired. I really believe CCM has his eye on a better bball conference or a team he is more familiar with. I get a sense that Tennessee to CCM is what Cincy was to Coach Jones.

I think that extension crap is smokescreen for something else.
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At present no one else wants him. After we came alive his first year I thought maybe we had a good one, but, then tendencies started showing up. We may get to the dance next year, but, we will enter a cycle of going to the dance every three or four years. Book it.
 
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knowthevols said:
At present no one else wants him. After we came alive his first year I thought maybe we had a good one, but, then tendencies started showing up. We may get to the dance next year, but, we will enter a cycle of going to the dance every three or four years. Book it.
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If he only makes the tourney every 3 to 4 years he won't be here book it. I think this year is make or break we have potential to be a sweet 16 team if we gel right and Hubbs is what we all think he is. We do well next year recruits will take notice and that will set CCM up nice.
 
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Why would he have his eye on a better conference when he hasn't gotten The team he is coaching to The dance in a bad conference? Teams in The big ten, acc, big east etc. arent going to be looking at a guy who hasnt got a top sec school to The dance. Jmo
 
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The extension post is just that, someones post, no real substance to story. If he builds a real and consistent winner here, he'll stay and Tennessee will do right by him. If next year doesn't show that this is happening, I would say Tennessee will be looking to find a solution.
 
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I would like to know the OP's definition of long term. A Coach K kinda long term? Or just another 5-6 years?
 
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This kind of post reminds me of the first couple of years of Dooleys tenure. What if George what's him. What if he is here just to build his resume and really wants the Georgia job to keep his fathers legacy. ALL FANTASY!

Same with Martin, if he does not want to be here, fine move on, and if he can't turn it around we should tell him to move on.
 
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He'll probably get an extension after next year because it will be difficult for him not to have a really good season with what he hads coming back. If they don't make the tourney next year he's done.

That said, the year after next will be interesting, becuae he'll be replacing a lot. I like CCM but am still not sure about his long term status. He always has the opportunity to improve as a coach as does everyone, but recruiting will be a key for the next two years if he's gonna hang around.
 
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Yeah I think he's gone one way or another. Either he'll miss the tourney for the next 2 years and get fired, or he'll do well the next 3 years and be hired away to another more familiar school. But i'd rather have it be the latter, because he will have left the job in a better state than he found it. But I hope he doesn't leave at all, I really like Cuonzo and the toughness he instills in his players
 
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TeazyT said:
Yeah I think he's gone one way or another. Either he'll miss the tourney for the next 2 years and get fired, or he'll do well the next 3 years and be hired away to another more familiar school. But i'd rather have it be the latter, because he will have left the job in a better state than he found it. But I hope he doesn't leave at all, I really like Cuonzo and the toughness he instills in his players
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If he doesn't make the tourney next year, he should be and I would hope that he would be fired. There will be no excuse not to make it in next year.
 
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If smokescreen means CCM is looking to leave like a smokescreen meant Gruden was coming to UT then CCM will be here till he dies.
 
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If I had to place a bet I think he makes the tourney next year, gets a contract extension, and misses it the next two and we find ourselves looking for a new coach. I like Cuonzo but I don't think his style, particularly his offense appeals to big time recruits. He'll snag one here or there but I don't have the confidence he'll be consistent enough to succeed at UT. To be successful at UT I believe a coach has to be part coach part entertainer, a bigger than life personality.
 
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TeazyT said:
Yeah I think he's gone one way or another. Either he'll miss the tourney for the next 2 years and get fired, or he'll do well the next 3 years and be hired away to another more familiar school. But i'd rather have it be the latter, because he will have left the job in a better state than he found it. But I hope he doesn't leave at all, I really like Cuonzo and the toughness he instills in his players
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What toughness do you refer? Just when did they show that? They folded like a cheap suit in both the SEC and NIT tourny's, and were outcoached badly. Maybe he should study how to defend the high ball screen before he declares himself a coming. Weak coach in my opinion and not worthy of anything. He should go back as an assistant in the mid majors somewhere.
 
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BigOrangeFanatic said:
If he doesn't make the tourney next year, he should be and I would hope that he would be fired. There will be no excuse not to make it in next year.
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I agree he SHOULD BE, however our athletic dept. is too broke to go firing another coach IMO
 
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Don't really care one way or the other. Don't see anything close to Final Four type coaching ability at this point, but am allowing room/time for personal growth as coaches. A local HS coach could get them in the tourney next season with the talent and experience they have coming back and in as recruits. It's what happens after that - a lot of that talent and experience will be gone.

I see it that Hart/Cheek are going to make their decision now on the future. After next season Zo will get calls from prospective employers. Have they seen enough to believe in him or not? Wannabe or the real deal? Not my call. But the fact that I could care less one way or the other tells me whether I will buy tickets for their games or not.
 
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Ask this if any of the teams left in ncaa tourney do u think ccm is a better coach and recruiter. To me a good coach can impact the game on the floor be 1.great game plan or. 2. Motivate the players to a different level for certain games n tournament.

Is he both or buzz ball 2.0
 
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Fijivol72 said:
What toughness do you refer? Just when did they show that? They folded like a cheap suit in both the SEC and NIT tourny's, and were outcoached badly. Maybe he should study how to defend the high ball screen before he declares himself a coming. Weak coach in my opinion and not worthy of anything. He should go back as an assistant in the mid majors somewhere.
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And you should go back into hiding like you were for most of the season with that "folded in the SECT" crap. There wasn't a lack of heart or effort in that game. They just couldn't make shots worth a damn. They had more rebounds, more steals, and other hustle stats than Bama. That proves it wasn't a lack of effort. Good try, though.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
If I had to place a bet I think he makes the tourney next year, gets a contract extension, and misses it the next two and we find ourselves looking for a new coach. I like Cuonzo but I don't think his style, particularly his offense appeals to big time recruits. He'll snag one here or there but I don't have the confidence he'll be consistent enough to succeed at UT. To be successful at UT I believe a coach has to be part coach part entertainer, a bigger than life personality.
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Before Pearl UTBB was in a long period of mediocrity. Is that where we are now or where we are headed? You can say that Pearl put us back into irrelevance with his behavior. He is not coming back so forget him, but don't forget what he did.

Can CCM pull us out? I am beginning to have doubts, but I believe he needs to have time to get his players in here to prove it one way or the other.

As far as your question on pulling big time players. Does CCMs over emphasis on defense turn off some top prospects who want to play good offense? He does sit players who can score but don't play defense. At times the Vol offense looks absolutely dysfunctional. Will the best players want to play in a system like that? I guess we will find out in the next couple of years.
 
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