Holly is not the problem.

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I'm visiting with my parents this evening and after the game I told my dad lets see if anyone is defending Holly on VN. Yep, first thread.
 
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Lack of discipline, lack of fundamental skill, lack of leadership, lack of self responsibility, lack of confidence, inability to literally throw the ball to you team mate without a turnover, inability to walk and chew gum at the same time, ..............all examples of poor coaching !!! Our present coach has no control over this team and it is so obvious to me. Just sit back and watch. It will get worse. Just my opinion and I respect yours. By the way, check out the credentials of each player and tell me(with a straight face) that we do not have talent on this team.
 
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No players signed in the early signing period. Enough said.

You are 100% right, and for that you get a --not very often offered--like! If you, my Vol fans, will notice, our recruiting has taken a very perceptible falling off since Pat left the scene. It may not all have happened at one time, but it is tailing. It will hit rock bottom--soon.
 
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It's funny..."we have the talent" stuff.

Diamond Deshields has a pass thrown directly at her on a ND inbounds pass from mid court. She intercepts it, drives down the floor, it gets stolen and she compounds it by taking a silly foul that only a sixth grader thinks is okay.

Forget Holly, what coach on the planet would coach a player to do that?

If the turnovers were good plays by the other team or effort plays by us that go by the wayside, then maybe, but we literally just don't take care of the basketball or they are trying to make sports center with a ridiculous bounce pass they made in high school...we all know that's on the players.

Nobody took more shots than...

Jamie Nared in the 2nd half, she had the same number of FGA as Graves and Russell combined, 1 more shot than DeShields.

She played the second most minutes...I don't get it.
 
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These ladies are playing just like they are coached (or lack thereof). Middleton, Carter and others are afraid to pull the trigger when open. Dunbar's not afraid to shoot and that's why she's on the bench. Substitution pattern is awful. Cooper should not see any PT til the end of the game. Fire HOLLY DOOLEY NOW!!
 
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These ladies are playing just like they are coached (or lack thereof). Middleton, Carter and others are afraid to pull the trigger when open. Dunbar's not afraid to shoot and that's why she's on the bench. Substitution pattern is awful. Cooper should not see any PT til the end of the game. Fire HOLLY DOOLEY NOW!!

Lol holly Dooley Dookie warlock
 
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Do you think for one freaking second that if Geno Auriemma had Diamond, Deshields, Bashaara Graves, Mercedes Russell, Tea Cooper, Jaime Naired, etc., etc., that he would have this problem? Yes, Yes, Holly Warlick is the problem!! Not because she's a bad person, but because she lacks what is needed in a highly paid head coach. There, I said it.

These players are not motivated to play for Holly, so yes she is the problem. Get this group under better coaches like Muffet, Vanderveer, Frese, Mulkey and I bet they play to their potential. It's sad to see Mercedes, a #1 recruit, run around on the court like she doesn't know what to do! These girls come out of high school with lots of talent, but they're still raw and they need to be motivated and nurtured for the next level. Summitt was a legend at that and there are many college coaches today who are great at it. You simply can't place all the blame on these young women and expect none to be on Warlick!

Holly is certainly the problem. Attitude, poor shot selection, no offensive sets at all. I saw McGraw up by thirteen, meet one of her girls on the court at a time out after a missed assignment, and there was no pat on the back. She is one of the WORST coaches that I have seen in the NCAA, and certainly the worst in the SEC. Two weeks and out of the top 25. If you are a supporter of her, then you are a Holly fan and not a Lady Vol fan. I don't listen to Doris Burke very often, but she as much said that the staff had to take responsibility. Middleton could not start for our high school team. I guess that is enough after all you saw Notre Dame Play. We would have easily lost by 30 if she had not put in reserves.

Lack of discipline, lack of fundamental skill, lack of leadership, lack of self responsibility, lack of confidence, inability to literally throw the ball to you team mate without a turnover, inability to walk and chew gum at the same time, ..............all examples of poor coaching !!! Our present coach has no control over this team and it is so obvious to me. Just sit back and watch. It will get worse. Just my opinion and I respect yours. By the way, check out the credentials of each player and tell me(with a straight face) that we do not have talent on this team.

Wish I could give each one of these a 100 likes...... ALL nailed it on the head...........
 
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While I agree with the responders, the OP has a point we have landed top players who haven't turned out to be top players I.E Russell

Could Holly be better? Yes
But the players are a HUGE problem (base talent not just coaching)

You would be surprised what good coaches can do for a player(s)
 
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It's not the coaches fault. It is just the players she recruited. It's not her job to teach them fundamentals. They should come in winning championships.
 
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Tennessee did not sign 1 player this year in the top 100. This is only going to get worse.. Sorry Holly we need a change NOW> I know poor Pat is thinking OMG
 
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It's funny..."we have the talent" stuff.

Diamond Deshields has a pass thrown directly at her on a ND inbounds pass from mid court. She intercepts it, drives down the floor, it gets stolen and she compounds it by taking a silly foul that only a sixth grader thinks is okay.

Forget Holly, what coach on the planet would coach a player to do that?

If the turnovers were good plays by the other team or effort plays by us that go by the wayside, then maybe, but we literally just don't take care of the basketball or they are trying to make sports center with a ridiculous bounce pass they made in high school...we all know that's on the players.

Nobody took more shots than...

Jaime Nared in the 2nd half, she had the same number of FGA as Graves and Russell combined, 1 more shot than DeShields.

She played the second most minutes...I don't get it.

Holly should have chewed Diamond out. There were times she should have chewed out Te'a. She should have been in Mercedes' face when she had Turner sealed and in position for an easy layup, but got scared by her.

For shot attempts, the guards have to get the ball to Bashaara or Russell for them to have the chance to shoot. That's been a problem since the season began. The guards just need to be better than they are. Jaime went 4-8 and scored 11 points according to the box score. She had 2 shots that were head scratchers, but the rest were ok. But she has a tendency to not look for open players when she beats her defender and the defense collapses. As for Andraya Carter and Cooper...smh. What can you say? And I love Alexa, but she needs to stick those open shots.

I don't see sideline coaching from Holly when the players come off. Always the slap on the butt, but not the death glare that Summitt, Mulkey or Auriemma would give when a player screws up. She needs to show some fire and fight if she wants her players to.
 
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Everything you listed is directly related to coaching, yes she is the problem.

Ding! Ding! Ding!

This so reminds me of the Fulmer loyalties where they just can't bring themselves to admit it's the coach. Yes, the players have to perform but that stems from coaching and discipline. I've seen little indication of either.
 
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No players signed in the early signing period. Enough said.

Just like when dooley didn't sign any ol. How did that work out for us I'll answer in my john boy an billy voice not to good. This isn't the bottom but we re sure headed there. Quickly.
 
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Turnovers, missed shots, selfishness, and bad attitudes seem to be the underlying problems. This team is not very good, no matter who is the head coach.

1) delusional
2) coaches are responsible for who is on the team (and making them play as a team)

Hate it for her, no doubt her heart is in the right place, but CHW is not the answer. Hate it for Tennessee more, and that's why she should be gone.

Remember watching ND a few years ago, probably first game in their current streak. It was so stark - they had an offense and did fundamental things like pick and roll, back doors, moving without the ball. It was a delight to watch. We did not have an offense, still don't, and these most basic of BB fundamentals are completely absent. It is a travesty where the program has gone. And the BS about how she's still won the SEC x times and gone to the tourney is fool's gold. Against truly good teams we have stunk. Very sad.
 
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No trolling, just listen as a fan of the game. From 2:20 to 3:20. https://youtu.be/LoKVrUumXVg

Holly needs to be more demanding. Standing with her arms folded on the sideline and occasionally stomping her feet is not getting it done. If they're not doing what you ask of them, sit them down. "If you won't do it, I have 7 more all americans who will"
 
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No trolling, just listen as a fan of the game. From 2:20 to 3:20. https://youtu.be/LoKVrUumXVg

Holly needs to be more demanding. Standing with arms folded on the sideline and occasionally stomping your feet is not getting it done. "If you won't do I have 7 more all americans who will"

Geno is also a master tactician and strategist. The likelihood that he has a player that thinks she knows more than him is slim, and if there is one, then she's deluded.

Holly, on the other hand...I can see some of the players thinking, "WTF is this?" If her players don't have confidence in her coaching abilities, that's a problem. And I think it's happening. Even at the end of tonight's game when she told them to stop fouling, they were still fouling. It's almost like they've tuned her out.
 
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Who says it should be an alum. Holly is an alum. That guarantees nothing.

Do a recruiting search like all smart ADs do. Being a UT Alum is a bonus but should never be a prerequisite. Go for the best available, proven coach---PROVEN! Why are we in this position now? Sentimental loyalty. Holly had her chances--time to move on. The Lady Vols won't win the SEC and may not make the NCAA tournament; why should they? They look terrible. Embarrassing for the University and the fans. Yes, we have all lost confidence. :cray:
 
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#46
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Holly has a low basketball IQ and thinks being a good coach consists of telling players to play hard. She doesn't have the faintest idea of how to coach offense and has pretty much admitted that.
 
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Holly should have chewed Diamond out. There were times she should have chewed out Te'a. She should have been in Mercedes' face when she had Turner sealed and in position for an easy layup, but got scared by her.

I agree, but...

It's easy for us to say. We don't know how fragile this thing is behind the scenes.

My only point is that this is the time where we should get behind them, and not make it harder, if it's possible...for me that's no problem but I can see it's hard for others.
 
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Ever noticed why Bama football team, Duke bball, Uconn women's bball the Patriots, etc; never seem to have players that have horrible attitudes, are selfish, and won't buy in? Can you tell me something they all have in common?
 
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Turnovers, missed shots, selfishness, and bad attitudes seem to be the underlying problems. This team is not very good, no matter who is the head coach.

Johnny come lately here but didn't I read where we had "0" of top 100 recruits?

I couldn't believe my eyes when I read that.

Unacceptable at an iconic program like LV
 
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