hi def DVDs

#26
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RockyTopEmpire said:
The only studio that is worth it's salt that is only putting movies out on HD-DVD is universial. All others are shared or they are blu-ray exclusive (Columbia, MGM, Disney, 20th Century Fox, Lionsgate, Paramount)

Disney is the big one. Kids want movies, they want copies of all the old and new disney flicks, parents will buy them.

plus 24 falls under 20th cent fox...jack wants blu-ray
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You forget the strength of the porn industry.
 
#28
#28
thedank said:
We have better capacity platters right now in use. We also have more advanced techniques right around the corner (ex. HVD with ~4 terebytes to a disc).

Unfortuantely, BluRay and HD-DVD came out at a time where there is virtually no consumer interest in them. Add to the fact it's 2 different formats, expensive, etc. and it's nothing but a big hill in front of both.

In less than 5 years, there will be much better alternatives to these discs. Technology is moving to quick to stop for some stupid format war.

Dual disc players will hold over consumers until the next, longer term solution comes out. Both of these will be a drop in the bucket looking 10-15 years from now.
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Yeah, that's what happens. A new medium gets big every 5-8 years and the last one dissappears. Next big step will probably be hard drives. Blu-Ray quality movie files are friggin' huge, though. Any decent-sized movie collection would require numerous terabytes of memory.

rwemyss said:
How'd that work out for Sony with the Betamax? :crazy:
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Wherever there is a Blu-Ray moron, there is another moron with a betamax analogy.

rwemyss said:
If your only argument involves movies, and the quality of the video, please explain how/why you think blu-ray is going to "crush" HD-DVD?
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I've been saying Blu-Ray is going to win the home theater market while HD DVD will take the computer market.

rwemyss said:
You forget the strength of the porn industry.
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It will turn even more people away. You ever been to a porn store? Those DVD's are like thirty friggin' bucks a pop. They've gotta be ~$50 on HD DVD.
 
#31
#31
milohimself said:
I've been saying Blu-Ray is going to win the home theater market while HD DVD will take the computer market.
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That post was in relation to RTE's, not yours.

HOWEVER, I would actually expect the opposite. Blu-Ray to take the computer market and HD-DVD the video. :dunno:

Here's the thing, I don't care either way, but anything at this point is pure conjecture. Neither side is doing THAT well at the moment.
 
#32
#32
g8terh8ter_eric said:
Most all TVs are going to be HD in about 2 years because of the federal mandate that ALL media outlets convert to HD.
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The mandate in 2009 (which will probably get pushed back again for the 1,000th time) is for digital signals, not HD. Not trying to be picky here, just saying that in case you really thought it was HD.

That would be nice though. I'd take all the HD channels I can get.
 
#33
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thedank said:
The mandate in 2009 (which will probably get pushed back again for the 1,000th time) is for digital signals, not HD. Not trying to be picky here, just saying that in case you really thought it was HD.

That would be nice though. I'd take all the HD channels I can get.
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I second that.
 
#35
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
DIGITAL TELEVISION (DTV) Tomorrow's TV Today!
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You are a bit confused. What they are talking about is analog to digital, not HD. You seriously think they will require every house in the US to have an HDTV?

DIGITAL TELEVISION (DTV) Tomorrow's TV Today! — FAQs - Consumer Corner

Form your link:
Is HDTV the same thing as DTV? No. HDTV is the highest quality of DTV, but it is only one of many formats. In addition to HDTV, the most common formats are Standard Definition Television (SDTV) and Enhanced Definition Television (EDTV).
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#36
May not be complete HD, but you will have to have a converter to down convert to analog if you don't have a DTV. By the time they do this though you will see about 70-80% of all TV's in homes being HD Ready if not more. So it only makes sense if they are going to convert to digital so they can push the HD format after they get it there. Makes NO sense to have a digital TV that's NOT HD ready.
 
#37
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
May not be complete HD, but you will have to have a converter to down convert to analog if you don't have a DTV. By the time they do this though you will see about 70-80% of all TV's in homes being HD Ready if not more. So it only makes sense if they are going to convert to digital so they can push the HD format after they get it there. Makes NO sense to have a digital TV that's NOT HD ready.
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70-80% is being way too optimistic. All it will mean for most people is they need a cable box for their tvs.
 
#38
#38
rwemyss said:
That post was in relation to RTE's, not yours.

HOWEVER, I would actually expect the opposite. Blu-Ray to take the computer market and HD-DVD the video. :dunno:

Here's the thing, I don't care either way, but anything at this point is pure conjecture. Neither side is doing THAT well at the moment.
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Nah, I think cheaper production costs of HD DVD would translate better to the computer market.

Based on a pure tech standpoint, I can agree with you being that Blu-Ray is higher capacity. Like I said, they're working on producing dual-layer discs with 100GB+ capacity (damn). But companies like Intel, Microsoft and Toshiba backing HD DVD means it will probably take the computer market, while Blu-Ray has the backing of more of the home theater market.
 
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#39
I realize they aren't the cheapest at the moment, but computer shops already use discs with high capacity than BluRay. I believe 80gig discs are fairly common in imaging and storage environment.

However, the PC world is also moving away from optical discs for many things that relied on them for the last couple of decades. SAN/NAS/etc. are becoming more affordable and a better solution than jukeboxes. So, I'm not sure how much they will be used in the home over the next decade. More and more on demand internet services and decreasing solid state storage prices mean the uses for optical discs are declining.
 
#40
#40
I see this playing out one of two ways.

1. A new technology emerges soon that takes consumer electronics by storm and does to Blu-Ray and HD-DVD what the DVD did to the Laser Disc or MP3 players did to the Mini Disc Players. Streaming content and wireless technology being extended to just about everything electronic could bring about this scenario.

2. Blu-Ray beats out HD-DVD and becomes the standard in both the home theater market and the computer market. I don't think it will play out to where they coincide in seperate markets. It is just too useful and handy to have one format take care of both markets as the DVD has for years and Blu-Ray having more capacity is a big advantage.

I see the 2nd one as more likely. Prices will come down, they always do. I remember when CDRs and CDRWs first came out they were close to $20 per disc. Now we can get 100 DVDs for $10. Same thing with the players.

If Intel and Microsoft are pushing for HD-DVD, its odd that Dell is going the Blu-Ray route.
 
#41
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DrRosenRosen said:
I realize they aren't the cheapest at the moment, but computer shops already use discs with high capacity than BluRay. I believe 80gig discs are fairly common in imaging and storage environment.

However, the PC world is also moving away from optical discs for many things that relied on them for the last couple of decades. SAN/NAS/etc. are becoming more affordable and a better solution than jukeboxes. So, I'm not sure how much they will be used in the home over the next decade. More and more on demand internet services and decreasing solid state storage prices mean the uses for optical discs are declining.
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After a conversation with my pops, he said disc-less memory is the way things are going. Transfer rates are getting better.
 
#42
#42
Didn't want to start another thread but found this interesting:

LOS ANGELES - Paramount Pictures and DreamWorks Animation SKG Inc. will offer next-generation DVDs in the HD DVD format and drop support for Blu-ray, further complicating the race between the competing technologies.
Monday's announcement affects the upcoming DVD releases of the blockbusters "Shrek the Third" and "Transformers," along with movies distributed by Paramount Pictures, DreamWorks Pictures, Paramount Vantage, Nickelodeon Movies and MTV Films.
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Paramount to drop Blu-ray high-def DVDs - Yahoo! News
 
#43
#43
The interesting bout will then be between Dreamworks-Pixar and Disney.

The more this whole thing goes unresolved, the more I think WB's TotalHD will solve everything.
 
#45
#45
Sony and Toshiba (and Microsoft who backs them) are too hard-headed to submit to one another. That "merger" will probably come in the form of WB's TotalHD discs. Should expect to see the first functional discs out before long.

I still don't see Blu-Ray dying out at least, for the capability of 100GB+ capacity discs. As Wemus has said, that would be a bitchin' thing to have for the PC market.
 
#47
#47
Only with Blu-Ray. :)

Seriously though, that's coming out in the near future from what I remember. I would get a BDROM drive for my computer.
 
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