hi def DVDs

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Will a hi def DVD or blueray DVD play on a upscan DVD player? I know it wont be Hi Def but I can buy the Hi Def DVD until I gat a Hi Def player.
 
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No, but some HD-DVD/BluRay discs have a regular DVD copy on one side, the HD copy on the other. So, you just flip the disc depending on machine you have.
 
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It's not common and should specify on the box if a DVD copy is included on the disc.
 
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If you're wondering about players, Blu-Ray is the way to go. HDDVD is dying right now, and one of these two things will happen:

1. Blu-Ray will beat out HDDVD. Your Blu-Ray player still works.
2. A new format of disc being developed will be able to be read by either lens. Your Blu-Ray player still works.
 
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Tsk, Tsk Milo. You forgot the 3rd option. A dual format machine that reads either discs.

At this point, waiting for a dual format machine is probably the best move. And, if you don't have an HD TV, they are both a waste of your money right now.

(I personally don't see either lasting all that long unless dual players under $200 are on shelves by next christmas.)
 
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milohimself said:
If you're wondering about players, Blu-Ray is the way to go. HDDVD is dying right now, and one of these two things will happen:

1. Blu-Ray will beat out HDDVD. Your Blu-Ray player still works.
2. A new format of disc being developed will be able to be read by either lens. Your Blu-Ray player still works.
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DrRosenRosen said:
Tsk, Tsk Milo. You forgot the 3rd option. A dual format machine that reads either discs.

At this point, waiting for a dual format machine is probably the best move. And, if you don't have an HD TV, they are both a waste of your money right now.

(I personally don't see either lasting all that long unless dual players under $200 are on shelves by next christmas.)
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Samsung is supposed to have a dual format player in October, and LG already has one.

First Review: LG BH100 Hybrid Blu-Ray/HD-DVD Player (Verdict: Format War Still Blazing) - Gizmodo
BD-UP5000 - Gizmodo

That said, both are still very pricey.
 
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Blu-ray is gonna win this war. I wanted HD-DVD to win and that was just because I wanted to get a HD-DVD drive add-on for my 360. I will say this much though, the only reason that Blu-ray will win is because of the PS3 and Sony.
 
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DrRosenRosen said:
Tsk, Tsk Milo. You forgot the 3rd option. A dual format machine that reads either discs.

At this point, waiting for a dual format machine is probably the best move. And, if you don't have an HD TV, they are both a waste of your money right now.

(I personally don't see either lasting all that long unless dual players under $200 are on shelves by next christmas.)
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It's going to take a miracle to produce a dual-format player at that price within a year. Two to three years is more reasonable, and even that's an optimistic scenario. HD DVD is absolutely hemorrhaging market share. Sponsoring companies will not allow sales to suffer for the amount of time it will take to get an affordable dual format player on the market. They are not going to drop from the price of a high-end LCD to a high-end upconvert in a year.

Guys, a Blu-Ray player is going to play most new releases, and eventually all stretching into the future, wether Blu-Ray or TotalHD prevails. But HDDVD simply won't last.
 
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milohimself said:
It's going to take a miracle to produce a dual-format player at that price within a year. Two to three years is more reasonable, and even that's an optimistic scenario. HD DVD is absolutely hemorrhaging market share. Sponsoring companies will not allow sales to suffer for the amount of time it will take to get an affordable dual format player on the market. They are not going to drop from the price of a high-end LCD to a high-end upconvert in a year.

Guys, a Blu-Ray player is going to play most new releases, and eventually all stretching into the future, wether Blu-Ray or TotalHD prevails. But HDDVD simply won't last.
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The data doesn't support that claim... what it DOES support is an argument that it is still too early to tell, and the market is too small right now, being very sensitive to things like price cuts and movie releases.

DVD Empire - HD DVDs, HD DVD Movie, HD DVD Movies, HD DVD Videos

This thing is far from over.
 
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Wemus and the rest of you, I know that the most affordable option is of huge importance to the consumer.

But like I've said, this is going to be won by the movie studios (unless WB's TotalHD wins out). Sony is going to hold on to this thing like a rabid dog like they usually do, which means the movie studios they own will never see the light of day on an HD DVD disc. All those MGM, Columbia and Sony movies. And consider Disney, Buena Vista, Touchstone, ABC and Miramax to be in there as well as media that will never be released on HD DVD.

You've seen it, Wemus. Both sides are not letting go of this thing at this point.

Where the production costs can help is viability in other markets, such as computer use. It's not debatable that Blu-Ray is a stronger technology with 40% more capacity. They're working on releasing a disc with over 100gb capacity. But, if HD DVD costs drop first, it will win in the computer market.

But in the end as far as movie releases, there are a couple scenarios that could play out, but Blu-Ray going away is not one of them. One is never going to "win out" over the other without the release of all movies on its own format. It doesn't matter if HD DVD becomes cheaper and the consumers snatch them up, they still won't get a large portion of all the new releases on HD.
 
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We have better capacity platters right now in use. We also have more advanced techniques right around the corner (ex. HVD with ~4 terebytes to a disc).

Unfortuantely, BluRay and HD-DVD came out at a time where there is virtually no consumer interest in them. Add to the fact it's 2 different formats, expensive, etc. and it's nothing but a big hill in front of both.

In less than 5 years, there will be much better alternatives to these discs. Technology is moving to quick to stop for some stupid format war.

Dual disc players will hold over consumers until the next, longer term solution comes out. Both of these will be a drop in the bucket looking 10-15 years from now.
 
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milohimself said:
Wemus and the rest of you, I know that the most affordable option is of huge importance to the consumer.

But like I've said, this is going to be won by the movie studios (unless WB's TotalHD wins out). Sony is going to hold on to this thing like a rabid dog like they usually do, which means the movie studios they own will never see the light of day on an HD DVD disc. All those MGM, Columbia and Sony movies. And consider Disney, Buena Vista, Touchstone, ABC and Miramax to be in there as well as media that will never be released on HD DVD.
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How'd that work out for Sony with the Betamax? :crazy:
 
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thedank said:
We have better capacity platters right now in use. We also have more advanced techniques right around the corner (ex. HVD with ~4 terebytes to a disc).

Unfortuantely, BluRay and HD-DVD came out at a time where there is virtually no consumer interest in them. Add to the fact it's 2 different formats, expensive, etc. and it's nothing but a big hill in front of both.

In less than 5 years, there will be much better alternatives to these discs. Technology is moving to quick to stop for some stupid format war.

Dual disc players will hold over consumers until the next, longer term solution comes out. Both of these will be a drop in the bucket looking 10-15 years from now.
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Most all TVs are going to be HD in about 2 years because of the federal mandate that ALL media outlets convert to HD. The only thing holding it up are the local stations that won't comply because they say it costs too much money. As far as interest goes you are right on with that part. I personally think though in about 5 years that gigabit internet will be available to most markets and then there may not be any discs to rent. Who would want to go out and rent movies when you can stream them to your home in about 30 minutes or so.
 
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blu-ray will/is going to be the next step in home entertainment. Like from VHS to DVD, it was expensive and no one was sure it was going to last. See: Disk, Laser. In a year or so it's going to crush HDDVD and will be the standard for all movies in three years. I know there is more tech on the way, but will they really push for more then 1080p res? Storage is a whole nother issue, I am just talking about the movie aspect
 
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RockyTopEmpire said:
blu-ray will/is going to be the next step in home entertainment. Like from VHS to DVD, it was expensive and no one was sure it was going to last. See: Disk, Laser. In a year or so it's going to crush HDDVD and will be the standard for all movies in three years. I know there is more tech on the way, but will they really push for more then 1080p res? Storage is a whole nother issue, I am just talking about the movie aspect
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If your only argument involves movies, and the quality of the video, please explain how/why you think blu-ray is going to "crush" HD-DVD?
 
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The only studio that is worth it's salt that is only putting movies out on HD-DVD is universial. All others are shared or they are blu-ray exclusive (Columbia, MGM, Disney, 20th Century Fox, Lionsgate, Paramount)

Disney is the big one. Kids want movies, they want copies of all the old and new disney flicks, parents will buy them.

plus 24 falls under 20th cent fox...jack wants blu-ray
 
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