Heupel vs Pruitt vs Jones vs Dooley - Three Years In

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Below are UT conference rankings since 2009. This is Tennessee's ranking in the SEC, only factoring SEC games. Both cupcakes and out-of-conference play are not considered. It's meant to be a comparison of how UT played against similar conference opponents. There are factors not considered such as: if UT had a weak vs strong conference matchup year. A couple of things stand out:

-> Heupel has clearly achieved more with less. Consider the state of the program he inherited, the mass exodus to the transfer portal, and the compounding twelve years of garbage before him, I would say the numbers are actually more impressive than they look.

-> 2023, while mostly a regressed year, still ranks equal to or better than CDD, CBJ, and CJP in their third year. The worst regression was on the offensive side of the ball...was it Hooker & Hyatt or Golesh or both?

-> Under Heupel, the defense has mostly been improving. Still at or below average in the conference, but the numbers are improving. Passing defense has a lot of room for improvement (Martinez?). Notice the numbers from '13-'16...Martinez was at UT then, too. Maybe it's more personnel vs coach?

-> The worst step-back this year was in both converting in the Red Zone and defending the Red Zone (near the bottom in both categories).

-> Time of possession - near the bottom of the conference every year (badge of honor)
-> Penalties - come on, guys!!! Either (a) it's hard to stay focused in the tempo offense, (b) UT lacks serious discipline, or (c) there really is an officiating conspiracy against UT
-> Turnover Margin - ugh. Always, ugh.


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that pass D is concerning, along with 3D defense.

we know we're going to rank 16th in TOP every year under Heup.
 
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casual-observer said:
Maybe?

I'm not disagreeing with your statement, but also consider...

Kiffin inherited the UT brand and Fulmer's recruits. Fulmer had two rough years (out of 17) and 15 years of 8+ wins. Look what Heupel got 🤷‍♂️
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Kiffin had oline with 2 of them like 280lbs and Crompton who had 800 yards passing the year before. It was amazing what he done.

But he left us in bad shape.

Heupel is the best we have had since Fulmer.
 
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I put this chart in ChatGPT and had it break it down simply, but may be inaccurate:

Certainly! Let's take a closer look at the chart and analyze the performance of each Tennessee Volunteers coach over their first three seasons, based on the SEC conference rankings provided in the chart:

### Coach Comparisons:

1. **Dooley**:
- **Wins**: Low number of wins across all three seasons, with a slight improvement in the second year.
- **Offense**: Struggled in scoring, rushing, and total offense, with particularly low rankings in rushing offense.
- **Defense**: Mixed performance with some improvement in scoring defense in the second year but generally ranked lower in rushing and passing defense.
- **Special Teams**: Poor performance in punt returns and blocked kicks/punts, but slightly better in kick returns.

2. **Jones**:
- **Wins**: More wins than Dooley, peaking in the second year.
- **Offense**: Improved scoring offense and very good rankings in rushing offense, especially in the second year. Passing offense was inconsistent.
- **Defense**: Generally mid-tier rankings with a notable improvement in sacks and tackles for loss in the second year.
- **Special Teams**: Strong performance in kick returns, particularly in the third year, and a notable improvement in punting.

3. **Pruitt**:
- **Wins**: Similar pattern to Dooley, with a small peak in the second year.
- **Offense**: Generally lower rankings, particularly in scoring offense, with a slight improvement in the third year.
- **Defense**: Consistent performance in scoring defense, with good rankings in opponent third down conversions and red zone conversions.
- **Special Teams**: Mixed results, with a very good ranking in punt returns in the first year but a decline thereafter.

4. **Heupel**:
- **Wins**: Highest number of wins in the third season compared to the other coaches.
- **Offense**: Top-tier performance in scoring and total offense, with a particularly strong passing offense.
- **Defense**: Lower rankings in defensive metrics, indicating struggles on defense, especially in passing defense and opponent first downs.
- **Special Teams**: Good performance in kick returns and punting, with a top ranking in blocked kicks/punts.

### Overall Observations:

- **Heupel** seems to have the strongest offensive showing, with high rankings in scoring and total offense, which correlates with the higher number of wins in his second season. However, his defensive performance is notably weaker.
- **Jones** had a more balanced approach, with improvements across the board and particularly strong special teams play.
- **Pruitt** showed some defensive strengths but his teams struggled offensively and didn't show much improvement in wins.
- **Dooley** had the weakest overall performance with consistently low rankings in key metrics and the least number of wins.

In conclusion, while **Heupel** stands out offensively and in terms of wins, his defensive performance is a potential area of concern. **Jones** appears to have led more balanced teams with strong special teams, **Pruitt** had a defensively oriented tenure with less offensive success, and **Dooley** faced challenges in most metrics. It’s important to consider that these statistics are just one way to measure a coach's performance and other factors like player development, recruitment, and strength of schedule also play a significant role.
 
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casual-observer said:
Below are UT conference rankings since 2009. This is Tennessee's ranking in the SEC, only factoring SEC games. Both cupcakes and out-of-conference play are not considered. It's meant to be a comparison of how UT played against similar conference opponents. There are factors not considered such as: if UT had a weak vs strong conference matchup year. A couple of things stand out:

-> Heupel has clearly achieved more with less. Consider the state of the program he inherited, the mass exodus to the transfer portal, and the compounding twelve years of garbage before him, I would say the numbers are actually more impressive than they look.

-> 2023, while mostly a regressed year, still ranks equal to or better than CDD, CBJ, and CJP in their third year. The worst regression was on the offensive side of the ball...was it Hooker & Hyatt or Golesh or both?

-> Under Heupel, the defense has mostly been improving. Still at or below average in the conference, but the numbers are improving. Passing defense has a lot of room for improvement (Martinez?). Notice the numbers from '13-'16...Martinez was at UT then, too. Maybe it's more personnel vs coach?

-> The worst step-back this year was in both converting in the Red Zone and defending the Red Zone (near the bottom in both categories).

-> Time of possession - near the bottom of the conference every year (badge of honor)
-> Penalties - come on, guys!!! Either (a) it's hard to stay focused in the tempo offense, (b) UT lacks serious discipline, or (c) there really is an officiating conspiracy against UT
-> Turnover Margin - ugh. Always, ugh.


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Dooley and Pruitt were the two WORST hires in Tennessee football history.

Tyndall was the WORST hire in men's basketball.

Raleigh was the WORST hire in baseball.
 
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Volfan1000 said:
Dooley and Pruitt were the two WORST hires in Tennessee football history.

Tyndall was the WORST hire in men's basketball.

Raleigh was the WORST hire in baseball.
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How do you rank Hart and Hamilton as AD? Hart worst ever, but who is second worst? Oh for the Days of Dickey😂.
 
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rocytop2624 said:
Kiffin had oline with 2 of them like 280lbs and Crompton who had 800 yards passing the year before. It was amazing what he done.

But he left us in bad shape.

Heupel is the best we have had since Fulmer.
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Really good points. I forgot about Mr InCrompentant. Probably a nice guy, but not a very good SEC caliber qb.
 
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