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#26
#26
hatvol96 said:
Patricia Ireland is a UT grad. I think Marion Barry is, too. Let's all get behind them in their endeavors.
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As a former resident of DC while he was mayor, I have to say that I was stunned to even think about the idea of Hizzoner Marion Barry, the Night Owl, ever setting foot in Knoxville. But yes:

He began doctoral chemistry studies at the University of Tennessee in Knoxville, the only African American in the class. There too he was prohibited from tutoring white children, and his wife was not allowed to work at the school. He quit the program in favor of his new duties at SNCC.
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(from Wiki, so it must be true)
 
#27
#27
GahLee said:
So your going to wait until he succeeds before you like him, or your going to wait until he fails to hate him?

Way to go out on a limb there guy...part of being a fan is having faith, take the plunge, the waters warm.

Go Vols!!!
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Yeah, it's called being rational. You should try it. And, it's "you're" ... try that one out too.

I was more on board with Kiffin due to the staff he brought in. I still think that was an excellent hire. The perfect storm happened, and that was that. But, Kiffin is gone, and we have to salvage what we can. Me not judging Dooley doesn't mean that I'm not pulling for him. Those are two totally different things. I hope like crazy that he turns out to be a home run hire.
 
#28
#28
SGMVols said:
I'm in "wait and see" mode. He gave a great press conference, but that doesn't win championships. How he performs on the recruiting trail with NSD looming will go a long way in determining which side of the fence I start out on.
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Exactly - I'm still on the fence. We'll see how he does on the recruiting trail... If he pulls in one, even one five star recruit in the next two weeks that will pull me in quite a bit.
 
#31
#31
Volfan8282 said:
Well technically his failure on paper is due to his failure on the field. But, I know what you're saying. Hopefully his career is about to take off, and we're in for a great ride. I hope at least.
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Fair enough. I don't disagree. But I can choose to be bitter and pissed off and cynical about it for this guy's whole tenure at UT, or I can choose to at least start off by giving him every benefit of the doubt. I am not part of Johnny's Legion of the Miserable.
 
#33
#33
I'm in. At first when I heard his name, I thought it was a joke, but now after hearing him speak, i'm behind coach Dooley. Of course it would have been nice to get Gruden or muschamp or Ny big name coach but the truth is Dereck Dooley is our head coach and we all need to be behind him.
 
#34
#34
Volfan8282 said:
Well technically his failure on paper is due to his failure on the field. But, I know what you're saying. Hopefully his career is about to take off, and we're in for a great ride. I hope at least.
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The same can be said for Kiffin as far as that goes. He was 5-15 at Oakland I think,so his failure on paper was due to his failure on the field.
 
#35
#35
BigRed said:
Exactly - I'm still on the fence. We'll see how he does on the recruiting trail... If he pulls in one, even one five star recruit in the next two weeks that will pull me in quite a bit.
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How many five star recruits are hanging around uncommitted right now to be pulled in, at this point in the recruiting process? There aren't that many five star recruits in the whole country to begin with.

I'll be satisfied if he can even partially salvage some of our existing hemorrhaging commitments. Guy has been put in a really tough spot.
 
#36
#36
I believe Dooley's a good guy, and I think he'll bring a better character to Tennessee Football.

As far as what will be accomplished on the recruiting trail and the football field, I'm eager to find out what exactly he brings to the table.

He has my full support.
But if he loses to any of the OOC schools (other than Oregon), Kentucky, or Vandy, then that may change.
Obviously some slack has to be cut with first year HC.

Again, he has my full support, until he proves he doesn't deserve it.
 
#37
#37
orangepeel said:
The same can be said for Kiffin as far as that goes. He was 5-15 at Oakland I think,so his failure on paper was due to his failure on the field.
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Very true. But again, the coaching staff that Kiffin brought in is what made me jump on quicker with that hire. Coaching-wise, I would say that it might be similar with Kiffin having an edge in name recognition for recruits.
 
#38
#38
Vercingetorix said:
I'm in. I cursed the hire as much as anybody; I was in as much disbelief as anybody that a LA Tech coach who just went 4-8 is as good as we could get. But this is our guy now. You can either start off miserable and bitter and hate everything about the next few years, or you can at least give the guy the benefit of the doubt, and be optimistic, and look for the postives as long as you can. Don't hang the guy because he's a failure on paper; at least wait until he's a failure on the field before you crucify him.

We've had years of being divided into two armed shouting camps over our football coaches: first over Fulmer, then over Kiffin. It would be nice if, for awhile at least, most of us could get behind the new guy. It's no more irrational than rooting for sports teams to begin with. Suspension of disbelief, people.
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Essentially where I am. Thought it was the wrong move, but he's now a Vol. Until he gives me new reason to want him gone, I'm all in. Hamilton is another matter.
 
#39
#39
he's the coach so he's got my support. i still think this is a bad hire though. as much as it pains me to say it i think ut is looking for another coach in another 2-3 years.
 
#43
#43
BigPapaVol said:
Essentially where I am. Thought it was the wrong move, but he's now a Vol. Until he gives me new reason to want him gone, I'm all in. Hamilton is another matter.
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Part of what tempers my distaste for it as clearly the wrong move is this question: what was the right move? Hamilton was clearly out there throwing money around at people, but you can't make anybody take the job. If Tennessee is being turned down by coaches from TCU and Houston and Air Force, then you know we're negotiating from a miserable position. I'm as appalled as anybody, but clearly this is a situation (giant rebuilding project plus probation-level roster) that wasn't very appealing to anybody. I don't think you can assume that Hamilton had to end up with a guy way down his list just because he screwed things up.
 
#44
#44
orangepeel said:
The same can be said for Kiffin as far as that goes. He was 5-15 at Oakland I think,so his failure on paper was due to his failure on the field.
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How many times in those 20 games in Oakland did Kiffin get to play Utah State, New Mexico State, Idaho, or San Jose State?
 
#45
#45
Certainly wasn't my 1st choice but it doesn't matter, he's the man with the keys to the hot rod and I'm willing to ride with him to see if he can drive it. I'm all in.
 
#46
#46
Volfan8282 said:
Very true. But again, the coaching staff that Kiffin brought in is what made me jump on quicker with that hire. Coaching-wise, I would say that it might be similar with Kiffin having an edge in name recognition for recruits.
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I see your points,and agree Kiffin brought in a recruiting machine. I'm not trying to be argumentative with you at all. I guess I'm just trying to be positive and move forward and see what happens. :good!:

It's been one frustrating week for anyone that is a Vol fan.
 
#47
#47
hatvol96 said:
How many times in those 20 games in Oakland did Kiffin get to play Utah State, New Mexico State, Idaho, or San Jose State?
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Not once hat.I'm just talking about his record. As far as the new coach we can't do a thing about it,all we can do is wait and see what happens.
 
#48
#48
he has my support ,i liked the way kiffen got on other coaches ,and his dad and orgeron got some de guys.i wish for dooly to go see chaz green and say im not lane kiffen or am i brash and egotistacal but i want you to come play football at ut for myself the fans and the players ,i saw on cbs sportsline that kiffen is coming to get you to usc but they hard by the ncaa infractions committee and will be on probation and no tv and reduced scholer ships and no bowl game for a few years. and i hope he tells that to markeith and others this class can survive maby not top 5 but if get green,cullen,koudjaun, cory lmonier,maby stone and others. i have a feeling he will do far better at tennessee than lane at usc because usc will be on probation and losing a set number of recruits for 3 or 4 years will hurt plus lae will be expected to win pac 10 next year and after his teams go 7 and 6 and 8and 4 for 3 or 4 years he is fired then the lane train is derailed forever,come on all of you committs talk to your friends get them to tennessee.this coach dooley is the son of a great the best georgia coach ever and sleezy lane said to the usc fanbase that the ut fanbase was a joke
 
#49
#49
Check this out.
This dude's an LATech alum and a Bama fan, but he's giving Dooley a rave review.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-aF13z0AYs&NR=1

He gives good reasons for the lack of recruiting (LA Tech is sandwiched between LSU, Ole Miss, Bama, Auburn, and Texas). He knows a bit of personal history about Coach, and he says this is a great under-the-radar hire.

"Y'all look out, 'cause Tennessee just got a hell of a lot better."

This guy may be a homer, but I'm getting pumped to see what Dooley's gonna do.
 
#50
#50
User said:
Check this out.
This dude's an LATech alum and a Bama fan, but he's giving Dooley a rave review.

YouTube - Tennessee VOLS Hire Derek Dooley as head football coach LSU GEORGIA LA TECH

He gives good reasons for the lack of recruiting (LA Tech is sandwiched between LSU, Ole Miss, Bama, Auburn, and Texas). He knows a bit of personal history about Coach, and he says this is a great under-the-radar hire.

"Y'all look out, 'cause Tennessee just got a hell of a lot better."

This guy may be a homer, but I'm getting pumped to see what Dooley's gonna do.
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If I were the kind of guy who made masturabtory YouTube videos like that, and Alabama hired Minnie Mouse to be their new football coach, I would probably be able to do 10 apparently serious minutes on how Minnie Mouse was going to revitalize their program. I just cannot take a Bammer seriously when he talks about UT.
 
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