Here comes the $;*% show some of yall didnt know about.

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MIT_Beaver said:
If you only knew, one day you may thank me.
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L.O.L

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Sin City Vol said:
I just don’t see wins coming on a consistent basis. Heard something yesterday about how it would take years and years of Top 5 recruiting classes to even try to get us in the same ballpark as Bama, Georgia etc on a consistent basis
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See, this is where I digress. Great coaches and great leaders get so much more out of the players who no one wanted, the diamond in the rough players and the picked through talent. They work hard, develop talent and make it happen. Skoal can could have great success at alabammer because the hard work was already halfway done for him. He had 5 stars hot and ready 3 and 4 deep at every position waiting for the next man up. He doesn't have what it takes to assemble a staff and lead a program to success on his own.
 
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RockyTopJewel said:
See, this is where I digress. Great coaches and great leaders get so much more out of the players who no one wanted, the diamond in the rough players and the picked through talent. They work hard, develop talent and make it happen. Skoal can could have great success at alabammer because the hard work was already halfway done for him. He had 5 stars hot and ready 3 and 4 deep at every position waiting for the next man up. He doesn't have what it takes to assemble a staff and lead a program to success on his own.
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Agree.
 
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Sin City Vol said:
Did anyone hear Chris Low on 99.1 the Animal today? He was discussing the perception of UT Football amongst other coaches and programs. Words like disorganized, disfunctional gets throw around. Mentioned he was down at Bama doing interviews and someone close to Pruitt asked him if it’s as bad it looks and he said someone said “oh it’s worse.”
he also said the toxic atmosphere is why big name coaches have little interest in Tennessee, says there’s way too many egos within the program and no one is on the same page. Lastly he said that if you to the most successful programs they all have great continuity, communication and everyone is working towards making that program better (basically everyone is on the same page). He said none of that is going on at Tennessee and it’s a turnoff and other coaches use it against Tennessee in recruiting.
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Coalescing should be second nature, but some people have to pee in their own punch. We all see it at work or in the family. If true, and it is believable, clean house. Every rower off-count gets thrown overboard.
My son is almost 12 and has never seen the VOLS be very good. He loves the team anyway, and I respect that strongly. Too bad some pros can't be as big as he is.
I want us to be the best and will do whatever is needed. I gave up my season tickets after 2016, but would buy back in for any reason for hope.
 
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RockyTopJewel said:
See, this is where I digress. Great coaches and great leaders get so much more out of the players who no one wanted, the diamond in the rough players and the picked through talent. They work hard, develop talent and make it happen. Skoal can could have great success at alabammer because the hard work was already halfway done for him. He had 5 stars hot and ready 3 and 4 deep at every position waiting for the next man up. He doesn't have what it takes to assemble a staff and lead a program to success on his own.
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Couldn’t agree more with this statement. ^
 
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Still don’t understand how we are sticking with Pruitt and have been paying him the money we have. He was a desperation hire who wouldn’t have been on the radar had our AD not been incompetent. He then tanks the program to a level I have never seen before and has been caught cheating on his third year while going 3-7.

And he might STILL be here next year.

How do we give a guy, who was likely not even on the coaching hot board at the time of his arrival, This Much Lifeline?
 
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Fulmer knows when Pruitt goes he is not far behind. Fulmer loves the Vols but self preservation is #1 for Phil. Once the decision escalates beyond Phil and the boosters and admin align on money, the chord is pulled. Pruitt out first then Phil later. Phil knows this.

My two cents.

It certainly seems obstacle is either nailing the for cause termination due to investigation or finding booster help on $$$. Otherwise, we may be forced to stomach year 4 of cornbread.
 
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Phil will try to stonewall the ncaa to hide the dirt and keep his job — he makes millions — hard to give up
 
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Birdiemantx said:
Fulmer knows when Pruitt goes he is not far behind. Fulmer loves the Vols but self preservation is #1 for Phil. Once the decision escalates beyond Phil and the boosters and admin align on money, the chord is pulled. Pruitt out first then Phil later. Phil knows this.

My two cents.

It certainly seems obstacle is either nailing the for cause termination due to investigation or finding booster help on $$$. Otherwise, we may be forced to stomach year 4 of cornbread.
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Well if half the rumors are true I think it’ll have to be the other way around. Fire Fulmer and then once the new AD is in place you fire Pruitt and let the new AD hire the coach.

You give Fulmer the lame duck, walking dead hire and he’s likely to go scorched earth on the program and pay some HS JV coach $100mil/10yrs with almost no cheap outs on the contract.
 
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The most divisive fixture in the program is Fulmer not Pruitt and until you get Fulmer out (again) the disfunction, back biting, sabotage and discord will go on and on and on, the boosters can align on lots of things, but they cannot agree on anything as long as Fulmer is in the middle, at the trough, lapping up money he thinks he is still owed for the 1998 national championship, in my opinion he's just your typical redneck done good, stabbed a few people in the back along the way to get what he could not get on his own, tearing down the program just like he did in 2008.
 
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Enki_Amenra said:
Yes it is an open post. It is not good, what is going on right now. It is a definite situation where no one seems to know what they are doing. It's a circus and will be a miracle if we're not searching for a coach on Monday. . . (ps. Pruitt lied to compliance officers. . . Merry Christmas.)
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Sounds like you have an inside tract? Care to hint at how you know this? I want to believe...
 
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Sin City Vol said:
Did anyone hear Chris Low on 99.1 the Animal today? He was discussing the perception of UT Football amongst other coaches and programs. Words like disorganized, disfunctional gets throw around. Mentioned he was down at Bama doing interviews and someone close to Pruitt asked him if it’s as bad it looks and he said someone said “oh it’s worse.”
he also said the toxic atmosphere is why big name coaches have little interest in Tennessee, says there’s way too many egos within the program and no one is on the same page. Lastly he said that if you to the most successful programs they all have great continuity, communication and everyone is working towards making that program better (basically everyone is on the same page). He said none of that is going on at Tennessee and it’s a turnoff and other coaches use it against Tennessee in recruiting.
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That’s what I heard a guest say on Finebaum yesterday. Didn’t catch his name.
 
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YankeeVol said:
Jeb Gruden. From Valdosta. Jon's 5th cousin, twice removed
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Coach Jeb's definitely a take. He's led quite a few teams to PeeWee league championships there at the field on North Toombs Street. We better act fast though, I heard from my cousin's neighbor's dog groomer that Hahira Middle was looking to bring him on as a TE coach. Fulmer better offer him a sweet deal too; HMS has reportedly put some significant cafeteria discounts on the negotiating desk.
 
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So do we know who spilled the beans on the investigation and why they chose the time when seniors being recognized as the right time?
 
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JFBanicki said:
Well if half the rumors are true I think it’ll have to be the other way around. Fire Fulmer and then once the new AD is in place you fire Pruitt and let the new AD hire the coach.

You give Fulmer the lame duck, walking dead hire and he’s likely to go scorched earth on the program and pay some HS JV coach $100mil/10yrs with almost no cheap outs on the contract.
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It takes more signatures than just Fulmer’s to execute the contract so no that can’t happen. Remember the Schiano fiasco and the signatures involved there.
 
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