Here’s what I do about the qb situation

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EconVol92 said:
Mauer never looked to his right on that last pass play and then he threw the ball away with no pressure. I can't say that JG really did anything bad in the Arkansas game and I don't get to say that often enough.
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How many UT games have you ever seen where a QB attempted only 8 passes? He didn't make huge mistakes because he had almost no pass plays.
 
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Vol423 said:
I understand that you're the founding member of the Brian Maurer Fan Club, but they is a load of crap. Maurer has been in this offense for 2 years. He should know the playbook by now. Also, Brian Maurer is a backup Q. If he wasn't mentally prepared like he was expecting to play in the game, then that is his fault. Maurer has no valid excuses, and his play was flat out horrible last weekend.
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I’m not trying to argue but you along with many seem to underestimate the importance of preparation for a qb on a daily basis. I don’t think many of you understand that a qb has to develop a chemistry with the receivers he works with. The speed they run, the way they run their routes, the play itself, the proper drop, I can go on and on but the point is there are SO MANY things that a qb is responsible for on any given play that it’s CRITICAL that he practices with the ones he’ll be playing with.
 
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1vol8 said:
So by your opinion, are you comfortable believing that Maurer wouldn’t move on and make fools of UT? You have an opinion based on speculation but nothing to support it. By splitting the remaining 4 games you’d at least have a basis of concrete evidence to support a decision.
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here's a clue. if you keep having to argue the case for your guy with over half the message board.....HE ISNT THE GUY, OKAY! Dam! wtf
 
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njvols said:
Small sample size, and realize he was thrown in, but he had to see the opportunity coming, but seemingly has regressed from his energy and fire and competitor we saw in spots LY. Been saying this since Dormady...the position has been there for SOMEONE to take the reins...everyone looks good on paper and HS videos and hype, but then get in the game, and nothing spectacular. You want the job, TAKE IT. I'm not talking Peyton type here...I'm talking about there's got to be someone who can be an Eric Ainge type...good upper tier SEC talent. Open auditions and everyone gets the deer in headlights look...not been properly prepared.
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Another thing people should take into consideration is the fact that Pruitt has the back ups playing scared. If I laid a 2x4 on the ground and asked you to walk across it you could without any problems. However if I took that same 2x4 and placed it at the top between (2)6 ft ladders and asked you to walk across it, you immediately start thinking “don’t fall”. The result is, you fall. That’s what Pruitt is doing to the backups. He’s placed the 2x4 at the top of the ladders.
 
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utvolpj said:
Here's a clue, your posts are so bad they make people almost cheer against Maurer. You're doing him a major disservice
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1) VN is only a fraction of the fan base
2) A lot of people agree with my posts so you’re speaking for yourself.
3) you being a staff member, coming at me like that isn’t a good look
 
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1vol8 said:
I’m not saying I’m right or wrong about what I’d do but given the situation......this is my solution.

If I’m Pruitt I know I’m about to lose 1 of my qbs this off season so I know the importance of getting it right the rest of the way. I know at this point the fans and administration would get on board with developing a young qb for the future.

My first move would be changing the depth chart to read as follows:
Qb1- Bailey OR Maurer
Qb2- Bailey OR Maurer
Qb3- JG
Qb4- Shrout

I tell Cheney to install 14 pass plays for the coming week. 7 for Bailey and 7 for Maurer that suit their respective skill sets. Maurer starts the next game because he’s the upperclassmen. He runs those 7 plays (along with a standard run game) designed for him for the half. No matter the outcome or score the switch is made to Bailey at halftime to run his 7 plays. I don’t read too deep into a good OR bad performance by either but rather use it as teaching moments for film room.

I do the same the following week. Only Bailey starts and Maurer takes over at halftime. Again... I don’t read too deep into the outcome.

At the end of the season, now I evaluate. I have 4 games of tape to evaluate between the two where they were both prepared and drilled vs 4 different opponents. Now it’s about who moved the team? Who made more plays? Who did the team respond to? Who showed a gradual decrease in mistakes? Who showed more ability overall?

Jg is told to move on even if we go 0-4 or 4-0 with the remaining games.

This is the only way I can think of with 4 games remaining that Cheney/Pruitt can ACCURATELY choose who is the best choice going forward.
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I’ll allow it.
 
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1vol8 said:
1) VN is only a fraction of the fan base
2) A lot of people agree with my posts so you’re speaking for yourself.
3) you being a staff member, coming at me like that isn’t a good look
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Not many agree with you. I don't really care how it looks I'm just relaying info. I know lots of UT fans outside of vn as well. I just know I'd hate for someone close to me to act like this on my behalf
 
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utvolpj said:
JG is better than Maurer
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That is yet to be determined, but it is irrelevant at this point. Because we know Guaranturnover is not the answer.

This season is a bust. So, I agree with the premise that you start giving all QBs not named Guaranturnover significant, real playing time. Start Bailey the next game. Guarantee him the first half. If he’s playing well, then let him continue. If not, bring Maurer for the second half and guarantee him the entire half. I’d also try to give Shrout a half somewhere down the road, too, if neither Bailey nor Maurer distinguish themself.
 
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utvolpj said:
Not many agree with you. I don't really care how it looks I'm just relaying info. I know lots of UT fans outside of vn as well. I just know I'd hate for someone close to me to act like this on my behalf
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Relying info from who? Yourself? That’s how YOU feel. That’s what makes it “personal”. This thread was started as a legitimate “coaching”, “developmental” solution for the TEAM. It wasn’t aimed in a way that picks BM up above HB or any of the others. If you didn’t pick up on the fact that it’s neutral then I’d suggest a comprehension class.
 
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1vol8 said:
I’m not trying to argue but you along with many seem to underestimate the importance of preparation for a qb on a daily basis. I don’t think many of you understand that a qb has to develop a chemistry with the receivers he works with. The speed they run, the way they run their routes, the play itself, the proper drop, I can go on and on but the point is there are SO MANY things that a qb is responsible for on any given play that it’s CRITICAL that he practices with the ones he’ll be playing with.
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The most important thing that a backup QB can do is be mentally prepared as if he is going to play in every game. Maurer has been in this program for 2 years. There is no excuse for him not knowing the playbook and not knowing his read progressions on the pass plays. He had a copy of the game plan. Once again, he should have studied that like his was starting the game. Yes. Not taking reps in practice means that his timing may be off, and he isn't going to be as sharp as he would be had he taken all the reps in practice. However, that wasn't Maurer's problem last weekend. He read the defenses extremely poorly, and he failed to read through his progressions. He wasn't mentally prepared to play.
 
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Lets trot out the 45% career passer.

Brilliant strategy.

Why have the coaches not thought of this great plan yet?
 
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Vol423 said:
The most important thing that a backup QB can do is be mentally prepared as if he is going to play in every game. Maurer has been in this program for 2 years. There is no excuse for him not knowing the playbook and not knowing his read progressions on the pass plays. He had a copy of the game plan. Once again, he should have studied that like his was starting the game. Yes. Not taking reps in practice means that his timing may be off, and he isn't going to be as sharp as he would be had he taken all the reps in practice. However, that wasn't Maurer's problem last weekend. He read the defenses extremely poorly, and he failed to read through his progressions. He wasn't mentally prepared to play.
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That I agree with somewhat. But at the time JG went out the play calling was 35/5 in favor of the run. What’s that tell you about the game plan for the last two weeks? It tells me there wasn’t one for the passing game and the pass plays that were called were what “JG” does best. Not BM.

Not being mentally ready should be somewhat understandable as well given that he had two family members pass within 48 hours of game time.

Look. If he’d been prepared to play without distraction I’d agree. However at the same time EVERY qb just has bad days as well. He didn’t look like that in his 4 starts last year but he DID look exactly like that in the games he came off the bench. I think that’s just as significant of evidence that maybe he deserves to be prepared before placing judgement as the evidence we have that JG plays better off the bench. No one can explain either one.
 
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k-town_king said:
Lets trot out the 54% career passer.

Brilliant strategy.

Why have the coaches not thought of this great plan yet?
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Fyp.

Why not? LSU did and ended up with Joe Burrow. Auburn did and Bo Nix isn’t being challenged.
 
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EZE said:
Well, it’s time to start trying something other than the human turnover machine who rarely ever throws for over 200 yards.
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You want to compare Maurer's time-in-game vs JG's, and then talk about how many 200+ yard games JG has in his career?
 
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Guarantano is a sunk cost so he doesn't get another snap in games or practice.

Mauer has had off field issues so I'd give him the rest of the season to regroup.

Bailey is the blue chip guy with the highest ceiling and longest future so I would put all my efforts into him.

I would say not even letting Shrout travel last weekend was the nail in the coffin for his future at UT.
 
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1vol8 said:
Or legit coaches
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So not you
1vol8 said:
Fyp.

Why not? LSU did and ended up with Joe Burrow. Auburn did and Bo Nix isn’t being challenged.
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He isn't 54% though which is almost 10% higher than his career. Maybe if he were even 50% there may be some hope. He has been bad.

EZE said:
Well, it’s time to start trying something other than the human turnover machine who rarely ever throws for over 200 yards.
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Not opposed to playing Bailey.


Bm has a much higher turnover rate and much worse everything stat wise compared to JG.
 
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I have no ill will towards any of the quarterbacks, but the fact is that everyone but Bailey appears to be damaged goods at this time.

I feel that JG was damaged by the lack of an offensive line and he took a beating that would have broken many other players. I feel for him and hate that he went through that, but it is apparent that he is not able to shake it.

Mauer has off the field issues from what I have read and I hope that he is able to overcome them, but with two years experience I would think that he could go thru his progressions and it does not appear that he has been able to do that. Now if his problems are related to the current staff then that needs to be addressed (maybe a new QB coach?). I have no idea as I never played that position at any level, but I have seen enough to know when I see someone play if they appear to be processing what is going on during a play and reading the action, he does not appear to be doing that. Can it be fixed, I don't know.

Shrout is a wildcard as no one really seems to know what is going on with him as he has not seen the field and didn't travel to the last game.

Bailey is still malleable and should be given an opportunity to learn and thrive, especially when this is a free year and he supposedly has an above average line to protect him. That is something that I can't say JG had and who knows what type of player he might be today if he had that when he was put out there.

Everyone is welcome to an opinion as this is honestly what this board is and agree or disagree there is nothing to be gained by attacking someone else's opinion other than proposing a different point of view.
 
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k-town_king said:
So not you


He isn't 54% though which is almost 10% higher than his career. Maybe if he were even 50% there may be some hope. He has been bad.



Not opposed to playing Bailey.


Bm has a much higher turnover rate and much worse everything stat wise compared to JG.
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See.... that’s the stat you can’t argue because of your bias. In his starts he was 54%. For the season (including garbage time) he was 46.7%. Bo Nix was prepared to play in every game and was 56%. JG was 59% being prepared to play in every game. BM threw downfield while JG checked down to reach 59%.
 
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CAVPUT said:
I do a full youth movement at every position including QB with the hope that it saves my job....which I hope it doesn't.
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This is where I fall, too. I don’t have any attachment to any of them. This season is a lost cause. I just want to find PLAYERS going forward.
 
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