Hear me out….. wishbone

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I LOVE IT!!!

Then...we can bring out the 'Ol (whoop, Whoop, WHoop,WHOOp,WHOOP!) Curley Shuffle'...TOO!!!!

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Folks forget that the triple option / wishbone has its downsides, too. It is not very pass-friendly, is slow and plodding, and is actually fairly containable by a disciplined defense trained to counter it.

In the 60s and 70s, many (most? perhaps) college teams ran it. Almost all of them abandoned it by the 80s, in favor of more modern, higher-scoring schemes. There's a reason they did. And a reason the ones still using it today tend to be the academies who are limited in who they can recruit.

It only looks sexy to some in this day and age because almost no one teaches their defenses how to handle it. So Army and Navy chalk up crazy running stats.

That wouldn't happen for us. If a national title-capable SEC program started running the wishbone full-time, rival defenses would get smart on it fast. And it would go back to looking like what we all abandoned for better things.

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But that's not what the OP suggests. He's saying let's just break it out from time to time, as a novelty play. Almost a trick play. I could go with that, though it takes a special group of players to have the right skill sets. Would probably feel a lot like bringing in a wildcat formation...one in the shape of a wishbone.

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VFL-82-JP said:
Folks forget that the triple option / wishbone has its downsides, too. It is not very pass-friendly, is slow and plodding, and is actually fairly containable by a disciplined defense trained to counter it.

In the 60s and 70s, many college teams ran it. Almost all of them abandoned it in the 80s, in favor of more modern, higher-scoring schemes. There's a reason they did. And a reason the ones still using it today tend to be the academies who are limited in who they can recruit.

It only looks sexy to some in this day and age because almost no one teaches their defenses how to handle it. So Army and Navy run up crazy running stats.I

That wouldn't happen for us. If a national title-capable SEC program started running the wishbone, rival defenses would get smart on it fast. And it would go back to looking like what we all abandoned for better things.

Go Vols!
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I agree, but it could really shock a team such as Ga. and may cause a time out, and if so go back out with our regualar offensive scheme. I don't think by any means that should be our offense, but just throw a play or two in there and see what happens.
 
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CAVPUT said:
Actually, I think it would take a good bit of time to run the bone well. A trick play is one thing. The wishbone is a completely different animal.
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Wishbone was a high turnover offense which was just one drawback. A lot of ball handling close to the LOS. I ran it in high school in the 70s. Alabama asst coach came in to our school & lectured our coach on it. Timing is critical.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Folks forget that the triple option / wishbone has its downsides, too. It is not very pass-friendly, is slow and plodding, and is actually fairly containable by a disciplined defense trained to counter it.

In the 60s and 70s, many (most? perhaps) college teams ran it. Almost all of them abandoned it by the 80s, in favor of more modern, higher-scoring schemes. There's a reason they did. And a reason the ones still using it today tend to be the academies who are limited in who they can recruit.

It only looks sexy to some in this day and age because almost no one teaches their defenses how to handle it. So Army and Navy chalk up crazy running stats.

That wouldn't happen for us. If a national title-capable SEC program started running the wishbone full-time, rival defenses would get smart on it fast. And it would go back to looking like what we all abandoned for better things.

~ ~ ~

But that's not what the OP suggests. He's saying let's just break it out from time to time, as a novelty play. Almost a trick play. I could go with that, though it takes a special group of players to have the right skill sets. Would probably feel a lot like bringing in a wildcat formation...one in the shape of a wishbone.

Go Vols!
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Only Texas had the wishbone in ‘68, when Royal needed something to keep his job. Switzer (OU OC) convinced Fairbanks to install it at Oklahoma and convinced Royal to send his OC, Emory Bellard who invented it, to teach ALL of it to Switzer. The rest is history. The effectiveness of the wishbone was the angled blocking schemes and speed of the backs. It is a time consuming, block chewing offense however.
 
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Posts like these are a good personal reminder that my college football knowledge is elite compared to some of yall. This might be, and I don't say this lightly, one of the worst suggestions I've ever heard.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Folks forget that the triple option / wishbone has its downsides, too. It is not very pass-friendly, is slow and plodding, and is actually fairly containable by a disciplined defense trained to counter it.

In the 60s and 70s, many (most? perhaps) college teams ran it. Almost all of them abandoned it by the 80s, in favor of more modern, higher-scoring schemes. There's a reason they did. And a reason the ones still using it today tend to be the academies who are limited in who they can recruit.

It only looks sexy to some in this day and age because almost no one teaches their defenses how to handle it. So Army and Navy chalk up crazy running stats.

That wouldn't happen for us. If a national title-capable SEC program started running the wishbone full-time, rival defenses would get smart on it fast. And it would go back to looking like what we all abandoned for better things.

~ ~ ~

But that's not what the OP suggests. He's saying let's just break it out from time to time, as a novelty play. Almost a trick play. I could go with that, though it takes a special group of players to have the right skill sets. Would probably feel a lot like bringing in a wildcat formation...one in the shape of a wishbone.

Go Vols!
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Anyone who disagrees with any of this doesn't know ball.
 
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cgrish said:
I agree, but it could really shock a team such as Ga. and may cause a time out, and if so go back out with our regualar offensive scheme. I don't think by any means that should be our offense, but just throw a play or two in there and see what happens.
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Think back through our history of times we tried to throw in random things for "trick" affects and it ended in disaster. Didn't Fulmer have us attempt a triple option that ended in a turnover (might of been with Banks)? and then didnt Butch Jones have us go under center for something that ended in a fumble? If I got the coaches wrong forgive me, but this also is a bad suggestions. Win our way. Not with some silly dated attempt to "trick them." Play our ball, our way, and shove it down their throat. That is the only way to win.
 
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